Wat's Guns-N-Stuff Thread

[Wat_Tyler]

5.56

The round for which there is no such thing as Enough.


For Wat, 7.62 is a fairly close second.

 

[HisArpy]

Yesterday saw a major change in the anti gun landscape here in California.

After the SCOTUS decided Bruen 1.5 years ago, California's legislature passed SB2 and Governor Newsom signed it. SB2 is a response to the Bruen decision saying that the people have a right to bear arms in public. That response was for the State to make nearly the entire state a "sensitive place" even for those people lucky enough to have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Even with a permit to carry a concealed weapon in public, SB2 makes that nearly impossible.

A couple of people sued and won a temporary injunction at the trial court level. The State appealed and requested that the trial court decision against enforcing SB2 be "stayed" while the case was appealed. The request was made twice, once to the "emergency motions panel" of the 9th circuit and again to the "merits panel" which is the panel of 3 justices who will hear and decide the appeal.

The emergency motions panel placed an administrative stay on the trial court's decision, effectively allowing SB2 to go into effect while the appeal was in process. The emergency motions panel said this was "to preserve the status quo" when the reality was that it violated the status quo because the status quo would be to preserve the situation as it was prior to the newly enacted law while the validity of that law was litigated. As part of its decision, the emergency motions panel said that the merits panel could lift the administrative stay.

Yesterday (JANUARY 6th - hah!) the merits panel issued an order lifting the administrative stay placed by the emergency motions panel AND denied the state's other request to them for a stay. This means that SB2 is not enforceable pending the final outcome of the appeal.

This is a major win although it remains to be seen if it will stay that way given that it's the 9th circuit which has a nasty habit of disobeying the law and their own rules when it comes to gun cases.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

A couple of people sued and won a temporary injunction at the trial court level. The State appealed and requested that the trial court decision against enforcing SB2 be "stayed" while the case was appealed.

I love when our pretend lawyer friend uses the wrong legal term....

 

[HisArpy]

I love when our pretend lawyer friend uses the wrong legal term....

The law was enjoined. That decision was stayed. The stay was lifted. Those ARE the legal terms.

That you don't know that yet had to come here and try to post something to make yourself look good, has backfired.


BTW, this only shows that you've LOST the culture war and that the momentum against everything you stand for is gaining speed.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The law was enjoined. That decision was stayed. Those ARE the legal terms.

Yes the wrong one.

Charges are “stayed” when a judge decides that it would be bad for the justice system for the case to continue. This means the issue of guilt or innocence is never determined.

Stays can be granted when the state has acted unfairly, including a failure to bring the case to trial in a timely manner. A judicial stay brings the case to an end.

Fuck off, you little winnie, as I've said hundreds of times, at best you're a shitty paralegal. You're just repeating what uninformed reporters use in their stories for an abeyance.

An abeyance is a temporary suspension of activity while awaiting the resolution of some other proceeding without which the activity in abeyance cannot continue.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/abe...emporary,activity in abeyance cannot continue.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

5.56

I am wondering, what's your recipe?

 

[Chobham]

I am wondering, what's your recipe?

For the 55 gr. BTFMJ I'm using CCI small rifle magnum primers and 24 gr. of H335. This settles it in at 3050 fps.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

For the 55 gr. BTFMJ I'm using CCI small rifle magnum primers and 24 gr. of H335. This settles it in at 3050 fps.

Okay. What brass?

 

[Chobham]

Okay. What brass?

Once fired military, the current bucket is LC 08 (Lake City 2008). I've also used Federal and others with very little variation in results. I'm running the loads under max. so case volume differences won't 'spike' me on the pressure. I'm using the magnum primers because I found that I got better ignition and less rnd to rnd velocity differences. This resulted in my being able to reduce the powder load by a grain (although saving on the powder wasn't a goal) and the magnum primers are the same price as the std. primers so it was a win win there. I have two 5 gal. buckets filled with once fired brass and access to damn near as much more as I want. If I were you I'd be looking for a hook up at Ft. Campbell.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Once fired military, the current bucket is LC 08 (Lake City 2008). I've also used Federal and others with very little variation in results. I'm running the loads under max. so case volume differences won't 'spike' me on the pressure. I'm using the magnum primers because I found that I got better ignition and less rnd to rnd velocity differences. This resulted in my being able to reduce the powder load by a grain (although saving on the powder wasn't a goal) and the magnum primers are the same price as the std. primers so it was a win win there. I have two 5 gal. buckets filled with once fired brass and access to damn near as much more as I want. If I were you I'd be looking for a hook up at Ft. Campbell.

Except I'm not there - yet. I'm closer to Fort Hyphenated Name-Change.


Do you use a multi-stage reloader?

 

[Chobham]

Yup, I'm using the Hornady A&P press for small rifle and pistol. It's an auto-indexing press so there in no chance of double charging (especially critical with the .45 ACP). Like Dillon it comes with a lifetime warranty and they've even sent me replacement O-rings at no charge even though I was fully prepared to pay for them. I use an RCBS 'Rock Chucker' for large rifle.

I hand prime all my brass even though the Hornady will handle that step. This is a personal choice in that I want to feel that the primer is fully seated.

I use a Chicago Electric (Harbor Freight) double bucket tumbler (wet) with Stainless Steel media (pins) to clean the brass after decapping, sizing and trimming. I found that doing it this way removes any burrs without me having to use a deburring tool.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yup, I'm using the Hornady A&P press for small rifle and pistol. It's an auto-indexing press so there in no chance of double charging (especially critical with the .45 ACP). Like Dillon it comes with a lifetime warranty and they've even sent me replacement O-rings at no charge even though I was fully prepared to pay for them. I use an RCBS 'Rock Chucker' for large rifle.

I hand prime all my brass even though the Hornady will handle that step. This is a personal choice in that I want to feel that the primer is fully seated.

I use a Chicago Electric (Harbor Freight) double bucket tumbler (wet) with Stainless Steel media (pins) to clean the brass after decapping, sizing and trimming. I found that doing it this way removes any burrs without me having to use a deburring tool.

So noted. I never pulled the trigger on a multi-stage setup. Maybe when I get settled. I'll have the space.

 

[Chobham]

So noted. I never pulled the trigger on a multi-stage setup. Maybe when I get settled. I'll have the space.

*chuckle* The press takes up little room. It's all the stuff you get to feed it that takes up the space.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

*chuckle* The press takes up little room. It's all the stuff you get to feed it that takes up the space.

I kinda knew/figured that based on single loading with a hand press once upon a time. If one has all the shit prepared and set up, then the manufacturing bit should move right along.


I asked the landlady to try to find an in to that fort you mentioned.

 

[TrailerHitch]

 

[Bn2f]

Context matters. Dipshit.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dalai-gun/

Included in the audience were some 35 students from Thurston High School in Springfield, Ore., where Kip Kinkel went on a May 1998 rampage in which his parents and two students were killed and 24 other students were wounded.

the Dalai Lama responded to a question posed by a student about how to react to a potential school shooter by stating that it would "be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun," with the proviso that one should aim to wound and not to kill:

 

[Wat_Tyler]

A gross oversimplification, but it has its point:


https://www.quotemaster.org/images/65/65e34479160ec93dbd73142a0dc0f059.jpg

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[Chobham]

I kinda knew/figured that based on single loading with a hand press once upon a time. If one has all the shit prepared and set up, then the manufacturing bit should move right along.


I asked the landlady to try to find an in to that fort you mentioned.

Once you're organized it does go pretty quickly.

Someone has the contract to haul the brass off the ranges, that's who you're looking for.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

... and they give you dirty looks when you police your own.

 

[coati]

DEPLORABLE VISION FOR THE FUTURE:

World spiralling into violent conflict.

Because we need to defend ourselves from violent conflict.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Cyclops 45-70

I want.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Once you're organized it does go pretty quickly.

Someone has the contract to haul the brass off the ranges, that's who you're looking for.

Okay, so noted.


I broached the subject. She seemed less than thrilled. "Why do I want to do this?" "Because I want the brass." "What's brass?" "The stuff you pick up after I've been shooting in the pasture - so Baby Poodle doesn't swallow it or whatever." "Oh . . . ."


"Why do we want more???"

 

[coati]

Okay, so noted.


I broached the subject. She seemed less than thrilled. "Why do I want to do this?" "Because I want the brass." "What's brass?" "The stuff you pick up after I've been shooting in the pasture - so Baby Poodle doesn't swallow it or whatever." "Oh . . . ."


"Why do we want more???"

Good questions by the landlady. Maybe you should spend more time with her and less time engaged in ammosexual pursuits.

 

[Wat_Tyler]