Wat’s Carbon Water-N-Stuff Thread - Concepts In Iron And Wood!!!

[Wat_Tyler]

This conversation with a former FBI profiler caught my attention. How many people here fit the profile he presents?

More than a few, and they aren't the ones accused of it, either. They're the 1 + 3 = 13 crowd who cherry-pick a statement from the text, out of context and/or incompletely, and make a sweeping generalization from it. They're the ones who discern a pattern from one or two observations and erroneously see causation and draw conclusion. The funny bit is, there is evidence here to put that shoe on other feet.


I am still wary of Fibbie "experts," like the one who talked all the stuff about what they can track through the mail that they learned from Bomber Ted, forgetting that he'd still be out there if his brother didn't rat him out.


Just like the U-boat spies . . . .

 

[Rebel5soul]

More than a few, and they aren't the ones accused of it, either. They're the 1 + 3 = 13 crowd who cherry-pick a statement from the text, out of context and/or incompletely, and make a sweeping generalization from it. They're the ones who discern a pattern from one or two observations and erroneously see causation and draw conclusion. The funny bit is, there is evidence here to put that shoe on other feet.


I am still wary of Fibbie "experts," like the one who talked all the stuff about what they can track through the mail that they learned from Bomber Ted, forgetting that he'd still be out there if his brother didn't rat him out.


Just like the U-boat spies . . . .

I really don't care where the 'expert' originates from but if the make sense and the premise stands up to observed behavior then some credibility has to be attached and that's why I felt it was worth sharing.

You notice how the internet was tied into that ball of wax? From another source back in the late 2000's, about the time Obama was elected (and that is for time reference, Obama was not a 'causitive' agent here) the internet metrics regarding responses to content were getting more sophisticated and it was determined that if content could illicit a response of anger then the content would get more engagement.

Taking the two observations and mixing them together we have a generation of socially detached individuals who have been purposely fed a diet of information specifically designed to make them angry. These are very bad combinations.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I really don't care where the 'expert' originates from but if the make sense and the premise stands up to observed behavior then some credibility has to be attached and that's why I felt it was worth sharing.

You notice how the internet was tied into that ball of wax? From another source back in the late 2000's, about the time Obama was elected (and that is for time reference, Obama was not a 'causitive' agent here) the internet metrics regarding responses to content were getting more sophisticated and it was determined that if content could illicit a response of anger then the content would get more engagement.

Taking the two observations and mixing them together we have a generation of socially detached individuals who have been purposely fed a diet of information specifically designed to make them angry. These are very bad combinations.

I agree. The premise seems reasonable in light of personal observation. One can go back into this site alone and see what used to pass for posting in the aughts/Lit-Lint/Halcyon Daze Of The GB and watch a steady decline in civility and a steady increase in the Triggering Topic. It's almost as though anything that will elicit a strong response is what gets typed. Facts are the casualties and pissing in people's cornflakes - so much the better if the poster happens to dislike them - is the purpose and the only purpose. Rational Discussion hasn't taken a back seat, it has been left bag in hand, standing forlornly on the side of a back road with no cell coverage.


Additionally, all those things we have now, the New Tech Stuff, all those supposed enhancers of Communication, serve primarily to drive a literal wedge between people. It's much easier to hate the person who isn't helping you make carbon dioxide. All they are is words on a screen any more, blood family included in some instances. It's a damnable shame, but there is no going backwards, like when flatheads got dropped in favor of OHVs.

 

[coati]

You conveniently ignore the history of firearms and how they helped us develop as a nation as a way to push your weak point. That aside, here is some Data you might want to read. It’s more nuanced than you’ll ever admit, but there it is. There are many reasons, but some correlation is when a Radicalized democrat wins, gun sales go up. The largest year ever was 2020. Over half were first time owners. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for your side.

You mentioned gun laws. If you include all federal, state, and county laws across the country, the number is north of 20K on the books. I don’t see a lawmaker problem in this instance, they’ve been quite prolific. I do see an enforcement issue. You say “unfettered” access. Tell us the difference between buying a gun in 1985 and 2025 for a long gun?

I get the feeling your definition of unfettered is wildly different than mine.

Unfortunately, guns are not being used by radical nuts of the left or the right to help us, as you say above, to develop as a nation. Those who glorify the use of guns, left or right, to shut down political discussion are wrong.

Advocating for such political violence is a form of mental illness that should disqualify them from possessing guns.

Right now, anyone can easily get access to guns, including those who promote political murder on social media. That needs to change.

The last time I purchased a gun in Arizona in 2020, the so-called screening process was done over the phone in a gun shop. The results came back in less than five minutes. That is not rigorous screening. I was shocked.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

There's no background check to buy a Red Ryder.

 

[LLCox]

He will figure it out.

 

[Brains_N_Boobs]

 

[Wat_Tyler]

PSA has a:

Blem PSAK-47 GF3 Rifle Forged Classic Polymer​

It's cheap, made in USA, and has a lifetime warranty. Odds are excellent that you can't find the blem.


Or it's nothing worse than the Russkies turn out as good-to-go.

 

[Rightguide]

Laugh
Out
Loud

That's what we do when you post.

 

[ll74]

That's what we do when you post.

So you finally understand my post.

Good job....only took you several days.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Howa seems to make a decent line of rifles. They have a reasonable 6mm ARC short action.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

These whinging banner/grabbers think AR-15s are bad, wait'll we start getting M16s from the cartel.


We could just settle for AR-10s with their five fewer ARs in them . . . .

 

[glamorilla]

Unfortunately, guns are not being used by radical nuts of the left or the right to help us, as you say above, to develop as a nation. Those who glorify the use of guns, left or right, to shut down political discussion are wrong.

Advocating for such political violence is a form of mental illness that should disqualify them from possessing guns.

Right now, anyone can easily get access to guns, including those who promote political murder on social media. That needs to change.

The last time I purchased a gun in Arizona in 2020, the so-called screening process was done over the phone in a gun shop. The results came back in less than five minutes. That is not rigorous screening. I was shocked.

Meanwhile in New York you have to jump through hoops to get a fire arm intended for home protection.

 

[glamorilla]

I really don't care where the 'expert' originates from but if the make sense and the premise stands up to observed behavior then some credibility has to be attached and that's why I felt it was worth sharing.

You notice how the internet was tied into that ball of wax? From another source back in the late 2000's, about the time Obama was elected (and that is for time reference, Obama was not a 'causitive' agent here) the internet metrics regarding responses to content were getting more sophisticated and it was determined that if content could illicit a response of anger then the content would get more engagement.

Taking the two observations and mixing them together we have a generation of socially detached individuals who have been purposely fed a diet of information specifically designed to make them angry. These are very bad combinations.

I always subscribe to the idea you never really know what's going through anyone's head. Anyone is capable of anything at any time.

Journalism has become such a mockery it should always be presented in quotes. "Journalism". I'm a "journalist".

This came up in my feed and I find it particularly inspiring. Absolutely love this young lady.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966928635262365781

Social media holds much blame for how quickly the rot spreads~especially since Barry opened the floodgates for propaganda.

Some people need to be lied to.

 

[ll74]

the floodgates for propaganda.

Some people need to be lied to.

Your use of Barry literally demonstrates the above

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Unfortunately, guns are not being used by radical nuts of the left or the right to help us, as you say above, to develop as a nation. Those who glorify the use of guns, left or right, to shut down political discussion are wrong.

Advocating for such political violence is a form of mental illness that should disqualify them from possessing guns.

Right now, anyone can easily get access to guns, including those who promote political murder on social media. That needs to change.

The last time I purchased a gun in Arizona in 2020, the so-called screening process was done over the phone in a gun shop. The results came back in less than five minutes. That is not rigorous screening. I was shocked.

You’re taking what I said out of contest again, but we’ll overlook that. You’ve repeated it twice so there’s really no point going forward.

I do congratulate you for being the first of the Radicalized to bring mental illness into the conversation. Our definitions will differ in this context, but as others have pointed out…my guns have never, not once, shot me or any person.

The mentally ill, and your side have a HUGE hand in their illness, are unfortunately 6 for 6 in the high profile assassinations.

 

[Rebel5soul]

I always subscribe to the idea you never really know what's going through anyone's head. Anyone is capable of anything at any time.

Journalism has become such a mockery it should always be presented in quotes. "Journalism". I'm a "journalist".

This came up in my feed and I find it particularly inspiring. Absolutely love this young lady.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966928635262365781

Social media holds much blame for how quickly the rot spreads~especially since Barry opened the floodgates for propaganda.

Some people need to be lied to.

What should be straight news is now mostly editorials, opinions masquerading as facts.

 

[glamorilla]

Your use of Barry literally demonstrates the above

i'm sorry its not Jesus porn.

 

[ll74]

i'm sorry its not Jesus porn.

Not my fault that you literally demonstrated the shit you're accusing others of in the same post.

 

[glamorilla]

Not my fault that you literally demonstrated the shit you're accusing others of in the same post.

like I'm going to murder my chef after I sleep with him.

 

[ll74]

like I'm going to murder my chef after I sleep with him.

Lol...that is certainly reinforcing this

the floodgates for propaganda.

Some people need to be lied to.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

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[coati]

You’re taking what I said out of contest again, but we’ll overlook that. You’ve repeated it twice so there’s really no point going forward.

I do congratulate you for being the first of the Radicalized to bring mental illness into the conversation. Our definitions will differ in this context, but as others have pointed out…my guns have never, not once, shot me or any person.

The mentally ill, and your side have a HUGE hand in their illness, are unfortunately 6 for 6 in the high profile assassinations.

The context we are considering here involves acts of political violence in a democratically based nation. In that context, mental illness includes anyone who believes that killing someone for political reasons is justifiable.

Those mentally ill people should not be allowed to possess guns. I believe that anyone threatening homicide in social media should be flagged, reported to law enforcement, and immediately removed from the social media platform. If a media platform owner repeatedly does not comply with this requirement, that media platform should be shut down.

As for other forms of mental illness that do not involve homicidal or suicidal tendencies, they are not relevant to this particular discussion. Your opinions about the sanity of Democrats are no more valid than opinions about the sanity of Republicans. Violent people are not representative of the overwhelming majority of Democrats and Republicans who play by the rules.

Recent political violence has been aimed at members of both political parties, not just at Republicans. President Trump, Charlie Kirk, the Hortmans & Hoffmans in Minnesota, the Pelosis, Mike Pence, and Governor Shapiro are some examples of the high-profile targets.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

“Greater in battle than the man who would conquer a thousand-thousand men, is he who would conquer just one — himself. Better to conquer yourself than others. When you've trained yourself, living in constant self-control, neither a deva nor gandhabba, nor a Mara banded with Brahmas, could turn that triumph back into defeat.”


~ Buddha

 

[HisArpy]

Recent political violence has been aimed at members of both political parties, not just at Republicans. President Trump, Charlie Kirk, the Hortmans & Hoffmans in Minnesota, the Pelosis, Mike Pence, and Governor Shapiro are some examples of the high-profile targets.

And here you are leaving out the political ideology of those who did it in your efforts to claim "both sides." (Where's that meme by BSG?)