Was This Reported In The MSM?

[pete]

then we're all on the same page... that the msm shouldn't dictate what is or isn't national news-worthy.

more actual news stories, less about kim fucking kardashian.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Still waiting for Pete to share what the "important message" is here.

 

[pete]

Still waiting for Pete to share what the "important message" is here.

answered already.
scroll back

 

[Sean Renaud]

You gave an extremely poor answer. And of course the MSM should decide what makes the news. That is their job. Now if you want to complain that we don't have state funded and thus not profit driven news fine, make your case. Otherwise you should be more upset with people in general.

 

[pete]

You gave an extremely poor answer. And of course the MSM should decide what makes the news. That is their job. Now if you want to complain that we don't have state funded and thus not profit driven news fine, make your case. Otherwise you should be more upset with people in general.

i don't think you understand my position at all. my answer was really a question, and even then it was really only my paraphrasing of vette's question.

it's the msm's job to report the truth of events, it's not their job to frame the truth in such a way as to distort their accuracy or inject their own biases or beliefs into the stories they report.

its sad that so many people are more interested in celebrity gossip than world events, but it's equally sad (if not more so) that the news outlets cater to this negative trend.

 

[RobDownSouth]

i don't think you understand my position at all. my answer was really a question, and even then it was really only my paraphrasing of vette's question.

it's the msm's job to report the truth of events, it's not their job to frame the truth in such a way as to distort their accuracy or inject their own biases or beliefs into the stories they report.

its sad that so many people are more interested in celebrity gossip than world events, but it's equally sad (if not more so) that the news outlets cater to this negative trend.

You lose credibility when you yammer about "truth".

The mainstream media, with the notable exception of Fox News, bends over backwards to present things in an impartial manner, to the point where fringe ideas from the right are presented in the name of "balance".

I personally don't care about celebrity gossip, but I fail to see how a one-off gruesome killing merits national attention.

Quite frankly, I am of the opinion that the Republican party has a much greater negative impact on the average American's life than some knucklehead with a scimitar.

 

[Sean Renaud]

i don't think you understand my position at all. my answer was really a question, and even then it was really only my paraphrasing of vette's question.

it's the msm's job to report the truth of events, it's not their job to frame the truth in such a way as to distort their accuracy or inject their own biases or beliefs into the stories they report.

its sad that so many people are more interested in celebrity gossip than world events, but it's equally sad (if not more so) that the news outlets cater to this negative trend.

Since you agree with Vette I understand your point and it's ignorant.

The MSM's job is generate money. Nothing more and nothing less. If distorting the news or injecting their own biases (which they have to do as human beings anyway) helps get ratings then good for them if not they should change their views to be more inline with their audiance. Again if you want to make it illegal to make money off the news I agree but if that's not your point you don't have one.

I'm of mixed feelings if its sad people are interested in celebrity gossip. Do you have any idea how many murders happen each year? Or even every day? If the news reported on these things that would be the news. It would just be two hours of murder and nothing else. Janet Jackson only has one nip slip a decade. That's how news works.

Vette claims that if this was a Christian killer it would be all over the news. That's simply not true. Perhaps if it was a Christian Killer with a Muslim victim but that would MAKE it news. That's how basic math works. Kinda like Obama being a black President is a bigger deal than Bush being a white president. Basic math can be tricky I know but seriously.

 

[pete]

You lose credibility when you yammer about "truth".

The mainstream media, with the notable exception of Fox News, bends over backwards to present things in an impartial manner, to the point where fringe ideas from the right are presented in the name of "balance".

I personally don't care about celebrity gossip, but I fail to see how a one-off gruesome killing merits national attention.

Quite frankly, I am of the opinion that the Republican party has a much greater negative impact on the average American's life than some knucklehead with a scimitar.

this tells me everything i need to know.

thanks for playing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

this tells me everything i need to know.

thanks for playing.

Which is that he's in touch with reality and you're clearly a few steps out of sync. Oh well, your numbers shrink by the day.

 

[RobDownSouth]

this tells me everything i need to know.

thanks for playing.

Your inability to create a cogent response exposes the paucity of your argument.

I wish you all the best in the future as you search out "the truth".

 

[pete]

Which is that he's in touch with reality and you're clearly a few steps out of sync. Oh well, your numbers shrink by the day.

haha

hey if you guys want to stick with your sweeping generalizations and arbitrary dismissal of people's opinions, who am i to stop you?

stick with the majority, brother. there's safety in numbers, they tell me.

 

[pete]

Your inability to create a cogent response exposes the paucity of your argument.

I wish you all the best in the future as you search out "the truth".

and your inability to listen to voices from either side of the fence exposes your undeniable biases.

i wish you good luck in keeping an open mind, and thinking for yourself.

 

[Sean Renaud]

haha

hey if you guys want to stick with your sweeping generalizations and arbitrary dismissal of people's opinions, who am i to stop you?

stick with the majority, brother. there's safety in numbers, they tell me.

Yep. I want to stick with my sweeping generalizations about how things that happen everyday are not newsworthy and dismiss the foolish opinions of those who think otherwise. If that's sticking with the majority then so be it.

and your inability to listen to voices from either side of the fence exposes your undeniable biases.

i wish you good luck in keeping an open mind, and thinking for yourself.

There is a difference between keeping an open mind which people should do and listening ot both sides of every argument as if they both had merit. Vette's argument has no merit and deserves no respect.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Vette's argument has no merit and deserves no respect.

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[CHNOPS]

Yesterday I was hungry all afternoon and the mainstream media did NOTHING to help.

 

[Busybody]

Yesterday I was hungry all afternoon and the mainstream media did NOTHING to help.

its OK

at least Obama played gold and had a par tay

who the fuck cares about YOU

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yesterday I was hungry all afternoon and the mainstream media did NOTHING to help.

They weren't supposed to help. They were supposed to send Sally Struthers to stand next to you with a bucket of fried chicken laughing at how pathetic you are.

 

[CHNOPS]

They weren't supposed to help. They were supposed to send Sally Struthers to stand next to you with a bucket of fried chicken laughing at how pathetic you are.

And did they?

No.

That's why instead of "mainstream media," I like to call them "didn'tsendsallystrutherswithabucketofchicken media." It's a meme I'm trying to get started.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Yesterday I was hungry all afternoon and the mainstream media did NOTHING to help.

If it was on the internet, it wasn't the mainstream media.

Apparently.

 

[CHNOPS]

If it was on the internet, it wasn't the mainstream media.

Apparently.

The "mainstream media" stuff is right-wing Tourettes. FOX has the largest cable audience by far over the other (shitty) channels, and their parent company owns some of the largest newspapers in the country. The "MSM won't report this!" whine usually really means, "here's something most outlets aren't willing to spin as I prefer." It's the complaint of people who haven't yet figured out how to separate opinion and desire from actuality.

Having said that, I've often said it's time for the parties just to overtly run cable news stations and newspapers. I'd rather know that what I'm hearing is from the Democratic News Network or Republican News Network than their de facto publicity wings that hide behind the cloak of theoretical objectivity.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The "mainstream media" stuff is right-wing Tourettes. FOX has the largest cable audience by far over the other (shitty) channels, and their parent company owns some of the largest newspapers in the country. The "MSM won't report this!" whine usually really means, "here's something most outlets aren't willing to spin as I prefer." It's the complaint of people who haven't yet figured out how to separate opinion and desire from actuality.

Having said that, I've often said it's time for the parties just to overtly run cable news stations and newspapers. I'd rather know that what I'm hearing is from the Democratic News Network or Republican News Network than their de facto publicity wings that hide behind the cloak of theoretical objectivity.

I'd rather get as close to a "neutral" news source as possible. I'd start simply by outlawing commercials during the news and see how they react when they aren't catering (as much) to an audiance. Might not work but seems worth a try.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The "mainstream media" stuff is right-wing Tourettes. FOX has the largest cable audience by far over the other (shitty) channels, and their parent company owns some of the largest newspapers in the country. The "MSM won't report this!" whine usually really means, "here's something most outlets aren't willing to spin as I prefer." It's the complaint of people who haven't yet figured out how to separate opinion and desire from actuality.

Having said that, I've often said it's time for the parties just to overtly run cable news stations and newspapers. I'd rather know that what I'm hearing is from the Democratic News Network or Republican News Network than their de facto publicity wings that hide behind the cloak of theoretical objectivity.

I'm convinced the right wing in general (and the wingnuts here in particular) are bi-polar.

They basically have two modes: "Full Victim" and "Full Bully".

This thread is a classic example of the latter.

 

[CHNOPS]

I'd rather get as close to a "neutral" news source as possible. I'd start simply by outlawing commercials during the news and see how they react when they aren't catering (as much) to an audiance. Might not work but seems worth a try.

Right. I'd make true news organizations all be non-profit. The MSM is in someone's pocket, but it's not who the right usually thinks. It's the corporations who 1) own them, and 2) advertise on/fund them. If their funding were entirely independent of their potential stories, they might start to do work worth paying attention to again.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Right. I'd make true news organizations all be non-profit. The MSM is in someone's pocket, but it's not who the right usually thinks. It's the corporations who 1) own them, and 2) advertise on/fund them. If their funding were entirely independent of their potential stories, they might start to do work worth paying attention to again.

Now I should admit, I don't honestly believe this would completely solve the problem. I think we'd STILL get to know more about Kim Kardashian than a lot of people really want to. Like it or not she is news on occasion and given the sheer number of murders in the country each year if you didn't kill at least three people, eat the body or snag a celeb I really don't care. Like I said earlier if we reported every murder in the US we'd just have a show called Murder Inc. I'd love for there to be more in depth coverage of Congress but usually that can wait until the end of the day if not the end of the week. If I actually want to watch the hearings (God only knows why'd I'd want to do that) I could do that but that's pretty fucking boring.

Still getting them free of their advertisers would have to be a step in the right direction.

 

[Busybody]

I'd rather get as close to a "neutral" news source as possible. I'd start simply by outlawing commercials during the news and see how they react when they aren't catering (as much) to an audiance. Might not work but seems worth a try.

asshole


who the fuck pays salaries etc?

there is N PEE R and they are 1000% LIB DUMOH!

where the fuck you get your shitty ideas?