was the story of the loaves & fishes

[dolf]

dirty, socialist propaganda?

the few people who planned ahead, were responsible, bought food to bring to the gig were guilt tripped into handing it all over so that the leader could share it out amongst all the irresponsible, thoughtless people who just sat on their arses and expected someone else to cater for them. all with the promise that it was fair and that the people parting with their food wouldn't miss out and would get as much as they gave... a piece of propaganda which was continued long after the even was over.

was jesus a commie?

 

[Adre]

dirty, socialist propaganda?

the few people who planned ahead, were responsible, bought food to bring to the gig were guilt tripped into handing it all over so that the leader could share it out amongst all the irresponsible, thoughtless people who just sat on their arses and expected someone else to cater for them. all with the promise that it was fair and that the people parting with their food wouldn't miss out and would get as much as they gave... a piece of propaganda which was continued long after the even was over.

was jesus a commie?

Yes, and then he became president of the US in 2008. Vette told me that.

 

[kbate]

Ok.

We know that he couldn't have been a communist, because communists deny the divinity of Christ, instead placing all faith in the central planning party.

We know he wasn't a socialist because nobody admits to being a socialist and in fact, if we go by the number of self admitted socialists, we would delete the word from the dictionary, they simply do not exist.

So I think, we have to take the parable and analyze it further. By feeding the masses, we assumed the Jesus managed to send everyone home with a full belly - but this is not the case. Why? Because God is all and therefore, He is all mass as well as all energy. Jesus ate the fish and bread and explained that when He eats, by His Father's law everyone eats. The crowd looked at Him blankly and went home to ponder (and to eat the bread they had stashed out of sight of Jesus).

 

[trysail]

dirty, socialist propaganda?

the few people who planned ahead, were responsible, bought food to bring to the gig were guilt tripped into handing it all over so that the leader could share it out amongst all the irresponsible, thoughtless people who just sat on their arses and expected someone else to cater for them. all with the promise that it was fair and that the people parting with their food wouldn't miss out and would get as much as they gave... a piece of propaganda which was continued long after the even was over.

was jesus a commie?

It's more a question of irresponsibly encouraging magical thinking. Those who count on divine intervention are likely to be disappointed.

I have always relied upon the kindness of strangers.

-Blanche Dubois
A Streetcar Named Desire
by Tennessee Williams
​

(serious) logic failure.

 

[Lancecastor]

 

[Recidiva]

His disciples were fishermen. Then "Fishers of Men." Rebranding. He was in the pocket of Big Fish. It was a publicity stunt.

 

[Sean]

Ok.

We know that he couldn't have been a communist, because communists deny the divinity of Christ, instead placing all faith in the central planning party.

We know he wasn't a socialist because nobody admits to being a socialist and in fact, if we go by the number of self admitted socialists, we would delete the word from the dictionary, they simply do not exist.

So I think, we have to take the parable and analyze it further. By feeding the masses, we assumed the Jesus managed to send everyone home with a full belly - but this is not the case. Why? Because God is all and therefore, He is all mass as well as all energy. Jesus ate the fish and bread and explained that when He eats, by His Father's law everyone eats. The crowd looked at Him blankly and went home to ponder (and to eat the bread they had stashed out of sight of Jesus).

<<<< Self admitted socialist.

 

[blobfish]

No, because He was able to take a small amount of bread and fish and feed many people. Money, unlike the divinity of Christ, is finite. If you take from one man, he will invariably go hungry, or at least have less than he did before. Nice try with the whole socialist Jesus stuff, but it's already been done ad nauseum.

 

[dolf]

No, because He was able to take a small amount of bread and fish and feed many people. Money, unlike the divinity of Christ, is finite. If you take from one man, he will invariably go hungry, or at least have less than he did before. Nice try with the whole socialist Jesus stuff, but it's already been done ad nauseum.

other people were funny. you suck.

 

[blobfish]

other people were funny. you suck.

You know I like to jump down socialist throats!

Here's a joke:

Why did the mail-order bride company go out of business?













Because they couldn't ship abroad!

 

[Liar]

Ok.

We know that he couldn't have been a communist, because communists deny the divinity of Christ, instead placing all faith in the central planning party.

Nah. Religion is inconsequential to communism. In the Soviet International, the churches happened to be political opposition. That's why they were conveniently declared incompatible with permanent revolution.

 

[Sean]

Nah. Religion is inconsequential to communism. In the Soviet International, the churches happened to be political opposition. That's why they were conveniently declared incompatible with permanent revolution.

Pretty much. Priests were actually encouraged, as long as they were party approved priests.

 

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[Peregrinator]

The cognitive dissonance that allows a person to be simultaneously a conservative and a Christian is breathtaking.

 

[Recidiva]

The cognitive dissonance that allows a person to be simultaneously a conservative and a Christian is breathtaking.

If God's allowed to Judge other humans as deserving hell, why not?

 

[trysail]

Mencken was a full-blown atheist. He called Christianity a "martyr religion" and thought they were a bunch of fruitcakes. That was in accord with his philosophical mentors— Nietzsche and Schopenhauer.

See Charles A. Fecher's most excellent Mencken: A Study of His Thought.

 

[Sean]

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."

Romney's fucked.

 

[Recidiva]

American Christianity is aligned with morality issues. Abortion is the most key element.

Economy and dispersal of tax issues is not as much of a concern. Unfortunately. The Church does a great deal of their own charity, so they're just convinced they do it better than the government.

 

[Recidiva]

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."

Romney's fucked.

Romney's a Mormon. He's all cool with the Heavenly Father.

 

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[Sean]

So much for the idea that Christianity is synonymous with Socialism:

The Tenth Commandant:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.


In Timothy:

“You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”

2 Thessalonians 3

6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching[a] you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. 13 And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good.

And that is antithetical to socialism, how, exactly?

 

[blobfish]

Render unto God that which is God's, and unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

 

[Peregrinator]

http://dharmagates.org/other_cheek.html

 

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