War is easier when others do it

Pure

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Broyles, NY TIMES
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The problem is, I don't see the images of or read about any of the young men and women who, as Dick Cheney and I did, have "other priorities." There are no immediate family members of any of the prime civilian planners of this war serving in it — beginning with President Bush and extending deep into the Defense Department. Only one of the 535 members of Congress, Senator Tim Johnson of South Dakota, has a child in the war — and only half a dozen others have sons and daughters in the military.

The memorial service yesterday for Pat Tillman, the football star killed in Afghanistan, further points out this contrast. He remains the only professional athlete of any sport who left his privileged life during this war and turned in his play uniform for a real one. With few exceptions, the only men and women in military service are the profoundly patriotic or the economically needy.

It was not always so. In other wars, the men and women in charge made sure their family members led the way. Since 9/11, the war on terrorism has often been compared to the generational challenge of Pearl Harbor; but Franklin D. Roosevelt's sons all enlisted soon after that attack. Both of Lyndon B. Johnson's sons-in-law served in Vietnam.

This is less a matter of politics than privilege. The Democratic elites have not responded more nobly than have the Republican; it's just that the Democrats' hypocrisy is less acute. Our president's own family illustrates the loss of the sense of responsibility that once went with privilege. In three generations the Bushes have gone from war hero in World War II, to war evader in Vietnam, to none of the extended family showing up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Time to bring back the draft lottery??
 
Pure said:
In three generations the Bushes have gone from war hero in World War II, .

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Well, that's convinient not mentioning George's grand dad.
 
Why should the kids ever go into the army when their daddies can pay for them straight into University.
 
At one time Roman mothers told their sons, "Come back with your shield or on it."
Eventually, this habit declined.

So did Rome.

Robert A. Heinlein

In some ways, that's nothing new. Throughout most of history, the people who did most of the figting and dying were those regarded as most expendable by the elite.

But a democracy is supposed to be a place where everyone shares the burden of responsibility. If that is no longer true, we're well down the road that Rome disappeared on.

In World War II, the average age of a combat soldier was twenty six.
In Vietnam it was nineteen.
n-n-n-n-nineteen.
 
I'd like to get one thing straight: despite the lofty rhetoric, this war is NOT about national security. Whatever we're fighting for over there, it's obviously NOT to make us safer or guarantee our way of life, because, as so many people predicted, it's done just the opposite.


---dr.M.
 
OK, we're there for Halliburton and Bechtel and to save the infidels, but if the 'hawks' had kids in these mad schemes, they would not drag on so long.
 
You fuck wits!

It's about our grorious president George Jr. bringing DEMOCRACY to the fucking anti-feminist Arab/moslim world!

The evil anti-lesbian States must be brought down!

DEMOCRACY where your vote count as much as the money donated to George Jr. by multi-national corporations! That's the whole point!

CAPITALISM will save our WORLD!

CAPITALISM will pay your health insurence!

Israel will terminate the Parestinians!

Viva Zionism! Long live Sharon!
 
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