Want More Views, Want Higher Scores?
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Don't give the jealous trolls targets to shoot at Chloe! You should at the very least remove the mention of X's & Y's stories! 
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I've been writing here for nine years and my complaint is with the dismal amount of voting.
The average voting is 1/2 of one percent to 1 percent. I've had stories that with votes as high as 4% but that's rare.
I understand that not everyone who opens the story reads the story but the voting is horrible.
When I ask readers who write me if they voted, many respond with, "How do you vote? I didn't know I could vote?"
Any thoughts? Suggestions?
The average voting is 1/2 of one percent to 1 percent. I've had stories that with votes as high as 4% but that's rare.
I understand that not everyone who opens the story reads the story but the voting is horrible.
When I ask readers who write me if they voted, many respond with, "How do you vote? I didn't know I could vote?"
Any thoughts? Suggestions?
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Favorites are being manipulated worse than votes right now and there are no sweeps for those.
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I agree..it took me a long time to get round to uploading a story, and I would love more voting, and more feedback too. What I most enjoy is the thought of people reading what I have written, so I find myself checking to see if that number of votes goes up.
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Don't give the jealous trolls targets to shoot at Chloe! You should at the very least remove the mention of your own and Lovecraft's stories!
Actually I don't understand why the scores are even visible during the voting period.
If they weren't, it would effectively eliminate all problems with deliberate bombing and "strategic voting", and because of the periodic sweeps following the current score of any given story is useless anyway...
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NicoleZ
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I agree it would make it much harder for those trying to manipulate the voting but not impossible! Even with Incest category stories it could be done if the perpetrator was determined enough and had enough friends & family spread over a large enough area in order to cast the several hundreds of seemingly innocent 3's interspersed with the dozen or so 1-bombs required to persuade the sweep that they had gotten all the bogus votes... It would be hard, but it could be done.
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Few bogus votes are needed if you can suppress the real score at the start. Its why the one bombs come at the beginning.
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NicoleZ
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Indeed! The Jaetter really are experts at suppression.
NOIRTRASH
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Lets test the hypothesis. Next story I post let's one bomb it to see if it affects what others do.
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I think this is a significant issue in the contests and that it goes both ways. If a story gets a bunch of 5s and great comments from the get go in a contest while another story gets a bunch of 1s and unfavorable comments--often on the borderline of being obvious ones to just erase--the readership is such that it will favor the puffed-up story and disfavor the slammed one from there on out. That's just the nature of readers--they inevitably are influenced in the aggregate by the judgments made by those reading before them. How many posters here, for instance, have said that they'll only look at stories with a red H or that they won't bother looking at anything rating below a 4 at that point?
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"We" could make it even more statistically significant if "we" choose to bomb a story that is currently very much in favour. And not 1-bombs! Make it 2 & 3 with comments such as:
"Can't see what the fuss is all about. X has posted this story at least 25 times before with the only obvious differences being a change of names and places. I'm giving it a 2 and that's generous."
"If you like stereotypes this is an excellent example of one."
"This is exactly the same as the stories posted by Y, Z, AB & F. At least four of these five have to be copycats."
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"We" could make it even more statistically significant if "we" choose to bomb a story that is currently very much in favour. And not 1-bombs! Make it 2 & 3 with comments such as:
"Can't see what the fuss is all about. X has posted this story at least 25 times before with the only obvious differences being a change of names and places. I'm giving it a 2 and that's generous."
"If you like stereotypes this is an excellent example of one."
"This is exactly the same as the stories posted by Y, Z, AB & F. At least four of these five have to be copycats."
Just me. I wanna make a point not stir shit with Laurel.
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NicoleZ
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As a test it is now completely without value as many people know of it beforehand. To be scientifically valid only a small group of people, the testers, should know of it in advance.
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You should post this to OGG when he keep insisting nothing is ever amiss in the contests,
But you're right, as soon as new contest stories are posted the cheerleaders get their #5 Pom Poms out and post "Oh, this is the best" comments while tossing one bombs and "This story sucks" on other stories.
Back when all the shit started with the voting block I posted the only link anyone should have ever needed to see. The Contest winning story with 8 out of its first ten comments all from friends and all raving, and those bump the story in the feedback forum and just like the red H draws readers, stories with a lot of comments in the feedback forum get people to read as well.
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Prevent Anon from voting.
Make it necessary to be logged in and let the Admins/Mods see the names, at least. Currently all anyone has to do is log out, refresh their IP and vote again. And repeat, endlessly.
Maybe it's difficult for a Lud to do this, but if I know how to do it it's not that hard.
/ Also prevent Anon from posting silly reviews. They can't post comments, so why reviews?
Make it necessary to be logged in and let the Admins/Mods see the names, at least. Currently all anyone has to do is log out, refresh their IP and vote again. And repeat, endlessly.
Maybe it's difficult for a Lud to do this, but if I know how to do it it's not that hard.
/ Also prevent Anon from posting silly reviews. They can't post comments, so why reviews?
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NicoleZ
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Why?
At present, they can bravely hide in the shadows and harass people far more gifted than themselves with as close to impunity as makes no difference. And to be brutally honest, would you really want these unfortunates brought into the light where everyone can see how abominably misshapen they are and how cruelly the genetic lottery has treated them?
I warn you, doing so might make you pity them.
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