Voting Scores

[ANIMAGUS]

If someone reads your story but does not vote on it, does that change the voting score which exists?

Is it an average of the total number of people who voted on the story or is it an average of the score and the total number of people who read the story?

I like to see the score, but the feedback is even better.

My reason for asking this is that the score does not reflect the feedback I have been receiving.

I have fallen victim as others have to the person who is giving 1's for a score just to bring down an author's score. There is no need for this to happen. The person doing this should put the energy spent into writing a story rather than trashing someone elses hard work.


Thank you

 

[PAUL C]

one votes

i am am sorry to hear that you have ben hit by the person who gives 'one' votes.

i do think there is any answer to it but to ignore it. do not let it get under your skin. what does it matter in the end?

i think i have had in excess of 80 one votes. i have had one for my audio story A Birthday Treat but at least they wrote and told me that it did nothing for either of them. I can live with that.

What the individuals doing it do not appreciate is, and I draw an analagy from English Soccer. if you beat up and terrorise the visiting supporters from opposition teams then they will stop coming. then they will stop supporting their own team and eventually you will have fewer and fewer teams to play against and your own team will fold.

Eventually the writers who care will stop writing and it will only be those who care less that submit stories. the quality will drop. fewer people will want to read it. eventually the site will close.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

How can you tell the number of "1" votes you get? I didn't know you could do this. All I've ever seen are averages.

---dr.M.

 

[Madame Manga]

Well, MY method involves checking the score every five minutes for several days after the story is posted. Usually you can catch every vote as it comes, if you are willing to go without sleep. The math is not difficult. ;-)

MM

 

[PaulX35]

Vote thoughts

Even when I personally don't care too much about votes, it's shitty to get 1's. If you look at the total proportion of readers voting, it'd be around 5% for the stories I posted so far. So, who votes? And who gives feedback? The ones who really liked your story will sometimes do, as will some who disliked it for some reason. But are they also voting? No idea.

I allow everyone the pleasure of seeing his/her story getting high scores, but when comparing it to my personal definition of good and not good I have seen too many things I found so-so getting very high scores, and the reverse. There were stories posted here that received fairly critical feeback and that got average scores close to 4.80, which is higher than any of my stories ever obtained, including stuff people found very good.

It's probably a very elitist position, but I care much more when someone on this board tells me something I wrote was great, than any score would be able to do. It's the amount of knowledge behind a verdict that counts for me, not so much the verdict itself.

Paul

 

[ANIMAGUS]

I agree that the feedback is what counts.

Here is the feedback that I received in an anonymous email. This is the "CRITIC" which gave me the 1 score:

“Oh yes, please cum Harry.” “I want to see you cock cum.”

What the fuck is this shit? Have you ever seen dialogue where there
are quote around each sentence? NO!

Also, ellipsis have three periods, no more and no less AND THEY ARE NOT
USED TO INDICATE PAUSES. Hyphens indicate pauses.

A rating of 1 because this would have been a F in a grade school English class.

Unfortunately, this person is entitled to his opinion no matter how negative it is. I just hope this person is not an English teacher and gives this type of feedback to his students.

 

[ronde]

If someone reads your story but does not vote on it, does that change the voting score which exists?

Is it an average of the total number of people who voted on the story or is it an average of the score and the total number of people who read the story?

I like to see the score, but the feedback is even better.

My reason for asking this is that the score does not reflect the feedback I have been receiving.

I have fallen victim as others have to the person who is giving 1's for a score just to bring down an author's score. There is no need for this to happen. The person doing this should put the energy spent into writing a story rather than trashing someone elses hard work.


Thank you

Your vote score is the average of votes cast by people voting and has nothing to do with the number of views. Some of your views may be readers who clicked on your story, and back-clicked after the first paragraph.

In my experience, the number of votes and the amount of feedback depends, to a large extent, on the category in which you place your story. I seem to get lots of feedback in the "mature" and "romance" categories, and little from others. Fewer people write feedback than vote, so when you get feedback, you've probably touched a nerve somewhere along the line. I've also found my feedback to be very polar.

The "1" votes happen to us all, so they have little bearing on the relative ranking of different stories. Some of them are cast because the reader truly didn't like the story, some of them are the infantile exercise of perceived power, and some, I have heard, are openly stated personal attacks. In a perfect world, only the first would happen, and could be useful. Since we don't live in a perfect world, it helps to treat the last two the same as fruit flies. They're a nuisance, but they're so small they really don't screw things up all that much. Only the other fruit flies think they're cute.

 

[ladyphoenix]

A note to ANIMAGUS

My dear,
So sorry to contradict you, but according to those more expert than I, "Ellipses are spaced dots indicating that something has been omitted from a quotation. Use three spaced dots if less than a sentence has been omitted. Add a period if a sentence or more has been omitted or to end your sentence with the ellipsis."
Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable to use more than three elipses, depending upon the situation. And I should know. I misuse them all the time.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Ladies & Gentlemen,
I would like to go on record as stating that, in my opinion, Lady Phoenix is one of the finest writers of erotica working today.

That being said, I must point out that she is all wet on this endorsement of the endless ellipsis.

Probably the most common use of ellipsis in fiction is to indicate that a sentence or statement is unfinished, as in "Why you little..." In such a case, a three dot ellipsis is the only accepted form.

The endless ellipsis, "Why you little................", is usually an invitation to the reader to fill in the blank, or indicates that the writer fell asleep with his finger on the period key. It is improper punctuation.

---dr.M.

 

[BigTexan]

Dr. M.

I think you misread LadyPhoenix's post.

Endless elipses are not what she said.

You use three dots to indicate something left out. Four dots to indicate something left out all the way to the end of the sentence.

That is the way a couple of my style books have said to go. Of course, EVERYONE has their own opinion and I'm not saying that this is the "correct" way, just the way a couple of my style books have said.

BigTexan

 

[Natural Born Eros]

Okay. One pretentious student's attempt to give a punctuation guide to those more literate than himself.

There are three major reasons to use elipses.

1. As an indication of a continued speech (why you little...) or of a continuing thought pattern or quotation that is comon knowledge to the audience, and as such does not necessitate completion (that's one small step for man...)

2. As a method of breaking of an essentially uncompleted idea, before moving on to an unrelated point... [you see ]

3. As a missing segment of quotation. This is what Lady Pheonix and Big Texan were refering to (I think, and having gone on the record, devoutly hope). Certainly, Big Texan's explanation matches almost exactly the one given in the "footnotes, endnotes, bibliographies and appendices" pamphlet as handed out to students at my university.

However, I think that the first two uses are more common than the latter at this less academically formal site. Isn't it amazing that someone with such an appaling attitude to feedback as Animagus' harshest critic could have created such an informative and civil discussion?

As to the issue of voting, I aim always to remain aloof and rely purely on the well-reasoned feedback of the writers and critics I have come to trust. However, within minutes of posting a new story I will be found desperately hitting the refresh button and giving myself grief over the lack of votes, the lack of fives, and the lack of PMs praising my brilliance to the sky. Writers... Oooh! There I go again. Elipsing my way into the ether...

Eros

 

[mytasteislikecandy]

Ok this has NOTHING to do with the topic, but I figured I could get an answer here... hehe I just submitted my first story tonight, and was curious as to how long it takes to get accepted? If anyone could answer me this, I'd be totally appreciative Thanks....


Candy

 

[PaulX35]

Indeed, it hasn't

Ok this has NOTHING to do with the topic, but I figured I could get an answer here... hehe I just submitted my first story tonight, and was curious as to how long it takes to get accepted? If anyone could answer me this, I'd be totally appreciative Thanks....

Candy,

Here's your answer; we're such a flexible bunch, you know

Provided you submitted your story the standard way --so not emailed in rtf-format -- it normally takes three days maximum to see it appear under the New Stories. At his moment, they have a Holiday Story Contest going on, and all the submissions for that contest are likely to get priority. So, due to this, it may take a little longer now.
Just be patient. I know it's hard when you posted that baby of a first, but you have to be

Will you be posting it here for feedback?

Paul

 

[ladyphoenix]

Nothing wrong with being wet, is there?

My thanks to dr. m and I shall go on record to say that his talent in erotic writing far outweighs my own, so for that, darlin, thanks.

And thanks to the ever-gallant Big Texan for standing up for a lady

As for being wet, dr., perhaps you should come on over here and we'll discuss that privately *winks and crooks a finger in his direction*

ladyp

 

[PaulX35]

Re: Nothing wrong with being wet, is there?

As for being wet, dr., perhaps you should come on over here and we'll discuss that privately *winks and crooks a finger in his direction*

Yes, that would definitely be another thread
Can I eavesdrop?

Paul

 

[HungryGuy]

Top Stories List?

I have a question related to voting.

I'mnew to Literotica, and I several of my stories have average scores of 4.5 and above, but when I look at the top stories page, these stories of mine are not listed as I scroll from 5.0 down to 4.5 and below.

Why?

Do stories need a minimum number of votes for their average score to "count?"

Or is the top stories page compiled manually once every week or so?

Thanks.

 

[HungryGuy]

Number of votes vs.number of views?

I've also noticed that "My Submissions" page shows some of my recent stories as having 0 views yet having a small number of votes. How is that possible?

 

[damppanties]

Re: Top Stories List?

I have a question related to voting.

I'mnew to Literotica, and I several of my stories have average scores of 4.5 and above, but when I look at the top stories page, these stories of mine are not listed as I scroll from 5.0 down to 4.5 and below.

Why?

Do stories need a minimum number of votes for their average score to "count?"

Or is the top stories page compiled manually once every week or so?

Thanks.

Welcome to the Lit community HungryGuy.

Your story needs a minimum number of 10 votes before it shows up on the top lists page.

The top lists page is compiled everyday.

I've also noticed that "My Submissions" page shows some of my recent stories as having 0 views yet having a small number of votes. How is that possible?

The votes are updated as soon as they're given but it takes some time for the views to be updated - I'm not sure how frequently its done. The views will show up eventually.

 

[mytasteislikecandy]

cool thank you for the answers......and yes I'll post it here for feedback Thanks again....

 

[gauchecritic]

re-visiting a tangent

Well cover me with flour and bake me for thirty of your earth minutes but I always thought elipses were for kissing.

Gauche

 

[Natural Born Eros]

Well Gauche, I recommend you avoid any threads where we talk about correct use of the colon


Eros

 

[gauchecritic]

Just as well I didn't read the one about periods then.

Gauche