Voter fraud and the Investigation

[Comshaw]

Millions of people voted illegally...that was the claim. So the administration put together a commission to investigate. The commission demanded data they had no right to as they tried to validate the claim of voter fraud. Many of the states told them to fuck off and they would do their own investigation, which is how it should be.

It seems that commission is disintegrating from lack of internal coordination and cohesion. Go figure.

Trump voter fraud commission faces lawsuit from member
https://www.mail.com/news/world/8069438-trump-voter-fraud-commission-faces-lawsuit-member.html#.23140-stage-hero1-1


At the same time my state finished their investigation and found voter fraud......a monstrous 74 prosecutable cases of it. And they will be prosecuted. I'm sure it will be said that because Washington state voted the way it did, the investigation was partisan and flawed. Aw well....

Only a few folks attempted voter fraud in 2016. Those who did could be in big trouble.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/politics-government/article173609901.html



Comshaw

 

[TalkRadio]

Chicago voters cast ballots from beyond the grave

Those are just a few of the cases CBS 2 Investigators found by merging Chicago Board of Election voter histories with the death master file from the Social Security Administration.

In all, the analysis showed 119 dead people have voted a total of 229 times in Chicago in the last decade.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10...go-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/

 

[TalkRadio]

Chicago reported thousands more votes than voters in 2016

The head of the Chicago Republican Party is claiming the city reported thousands more votes cast than voters in the 2016 election -- sparking a battle with Chicago officials who call the allegations overblown.

First reported by the Chicago City Wire, the Chicago GOP filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Chicago Board of Elections in January for a list of voters who had cast ballots in November. According to the party, the board responded with a list of 1,101,178 individuals, though its website reflects 1,115,664 votes cast.

“There should be never be more votes than voters—every ballot cast should be recorded against a registered voter,” Chairman of the Chicago GOP Chris Cleveland told Fox News, explaining that after receiving the data, the party “immediately” contacted the board for “clarification.” “This is either massive fraud or massive incompetence, but we have no way of telling the difference because they won’t give us the data.”

The discrepancy totals more than 14,000, though Cleveland claims it could be as high as 16,000.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...es-than-voters-in-2016-gop-official-says.html

 

[jaF0]

I keep wondering how many 'fraudulent' vote were cast for 'Rump.

 

[about_average]

If every city with a population of over 500,000 had 16,000 fraudulent votes that would be 544,000 fraudulent votes in Nov 2016.
A far cry from 3,000,000.

 

[Hypoxia]

If every city with a population of over 500,000 had 16,000 fraudulent votes that would be 544,000 fraudulent votes in Nov 2016.
A far cry from 3,000,000.

And not all in California as Tromp whined.

 

[Rightguide]

Hillary's popular vote total didn't exceed Trump's until California, where 5 million illegal aliens reside, all of whom were encouraged to vote by our treasonous governor and state Democrats.

 

[Que]

If every city with a population of over 500,000 had 16,000 fraudulent votes that would be 544,000 fraudulent votes in Nov 2016.
A far cry from 3,000,000.

Although straight-up ballot box stuffing in lopsided districts is the easiest way to commit fraud it's by no means the only way. You may be accidentally correct that that particular type of fraud happens mostly in democratic-controlled big blue cities where people don't know each other.

But it's completely specious to assume that these sort of problems cannot be endemic in small cities and large. Your parse, notwithstanding, that possibility alone if it extrapolates as you suggest would account for 1/6 of Trump's likely pulled from his ass number.

I suppose it's progress though that the Democrats are now going from assurances that voter fraud never happens because they never get caught doing it to your intimation that a half a million (in big blue cities) is no big deal.

 

[jaF0]

Something that really raised eyebrows ....

When Michigan started doing the recount, the City of Detroit found inconsistencies in the number of ballots reportedly turned in by some precincts and the number of boxes of ballots they could account for (something to that effect, I forget the details now). Because of that, they were prohibited from recounting ballots from those precincts. That alone SHOULD have triggered a full mandatory recount of all precincts. If you can't even be sure of the number of ballots, how can you be sure of the vote totals?

 

[Que]

Hillary's popular vote total didn't exceed Trump's until California, where 5 million illegal aliens reside, all of whom were encouraged to vote by our treasonous governor and state Democrats.

Don't forget that POTUS specifically addressed this pre-election saying that no Federal agency would be concerned with citizenship status and that quote "voting is an important part of citizenship."

The wall, enforcememt and the illegal DACA was very much on the bsllot, not because US citizens of Hispanic descent overwhelmingly favor his side of those issues but because specifically illegal aliens do. It's ridiculous to assume that 5 million illegal alien stayed home in California.

In Arizona Democratic operative was caught on film turning in over 200 absentee ballots. Who filled them out?

 

[Comshaw]

Although straight-up ballot box stuffing in lopsided districts is the easiest way to commit fraud it's by no means the only way. You may be accidentally correct that that particular type of fraud happens mostly in democratic-controlled big blue cities where people don't know each other.

But it's completely specious to assume that these sort of problems cannot be endemic in small cities and large. Your parse, notwithstanding, that possibility alone if it extrapolates as you suggest would account for 1/6 of Trump's likely pulled from his ass number.

I suppose it's progress though that the Democrats are now going from assurances that voter fraud never happens because they never get caught doing it to your intimation that a half a million (in big blue cities) is no big deal.

Of course you have a cite to back that up? And it is....?


Comshaw

 

[Comshaw]

Don't forget that POTUS specifically addressed this pre-election saying that no Federal agency would be concerned with citizenship status and that quote "voting is an important part of citizenship."

The wall, enforcememt and the illegal DACA was very much on the bsllot, not because US citizens of Hispanic descent overwhelmingly favor his side of those issues but because specifically illegal aliens do. It's ridiculous to assume that 5 million illegal alien stayed home in California.

In Arizona Democratic operative was caught on film turning in over 200 absentee ballots. Who filled them out?

Assumptions are opinions dressed in another word and mean jack unless you have a least some facts to back them up. And the cite for those are....?



Comshaw

 

[Que]

Of course you have a cite to back that up? And it is....?


Comshaw

A cite for what? That Obama said what Obama said? Look it up. if you really did not even notice when Obama said that you're not even worth talking to in a political thread that was huge when he said that.

A cite for about averages estimation? That's about average is estimation you'd have to talk to him about that but he's pretty blithe about the possibility of a half a million fraudulent votes.

 

[Que]

Assumptions are opinions dressed in another word and mean jack unless you have a least some facts to back them up. And the cite for those are....?



Comshaw

Let me get this straight- you want me to provide a citation for the fact that I think it's ridiculous to assume that NONE of 5 million illegal aliens voted?

 

[Hypoxia]

Let me get this straight- you want me to provide a citation for the fact that I think it's ridiculous to assume that NONE of 5 million illegal aliens voted?

How about dropping assumptions and providing actual evidence that large numbers of undocumenteds, who would not have received ballots if they weren't registered, voted?

 

[about_average]

I suppose it's progress though that the Democrats are now going from assurances that voter fraud never happens because they never get caught doing it to your intimation that a half a million (in big blue cities) is no big deal.

You sure like assigning people positions.

A cite for what? That Obama said what Obama said? Look it up. if you really did not even notice when Obama said that you're not even worth talking to in a political thread that was huge when he said that.

Actually you should look it up, since you don't know what he said.

Never mind, I know you won't bother.

And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don’t want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you’re not just speaking for yourself. You’re speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school who may not have a voice. Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

The problem with these alarmist news reports is that they are anecdotal (the examples cited), they never do an real analysis.
For instance, how many of the "dead people voting" are people who voted via absentee ballot and then died before election day?

Basing these claims on anecdotal evidence is as disingenuous as me claiming it's always conservatives who illegally vote because every report I see of individual voter fraud turns out to be someone voting for the Republican candidate.

As long as 20% of registered voters have no way to know their vote went to the person intended I'm not at all concerned about the Right's 3.4% claim because they obviously don't give a shit about vote accuracy.

 

[Que]

How about dropping assumptions and providing actual evidence that large numbers of undocumenteds, who would not have received ballots if they weren't registered, voted?

"Not a single" = "A large number?"

In what language?

 

[Que]

You sure like assigning people positions.


Actually you should look it up, since you don't know what he said.

Never mind, I know you won't bother.

I know EXACTLY what he said, and how after the money quote he went on to equivocate about those that cannot legally vote (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) AFTER he expressly said that NO government agency would be looking into immigration status in regards to voting.

There would be absolutely no reason to even suggest that anyone would care about someone looking at their immigration status unless they were not actual citizens.

The money quote was not just used by the right to point out what he was suggesting it was also abused by the left in photo recruitment drives in the Hispanic community.

 

[Wats_butthole]

Of course you have a cite to back that up? And it is....?


Comshaw

Queefy doesn't needs facts. The rwcj believes him and that's all the little tranny needs.

 

[cowslinger64]

Don't forget that POTUS specifically addressed this pre-election saying that no Federal agency would be concerned with citizenship status and that quote "voting is an important part of citizenship."

/QUOTE]

Talking bout this?

https://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/


In an interview aimed at a millennial audience, President Obama encouraged Latino citizens to vote. He did not urge undocumented immigrants to vote.

President Obama encouraged "illegal aliens" to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.

RATING
FALSE


Say something other than snopes is a left wing conspiracy site. You are smarter than the idiots like vette, botany and bizzydummy, even if I don't agree with your politics usually.

 

[about_average]

I know EXACTLY what he said....

Right.

 

[Que]

And you specifically cut off the money quote and more importantly the question which was specifically about dreamers being discouraged from voting. Dreamers by definition cannot vote.

And if you actually watch the clip, you can see just like the Joe the plumber quote that it's a gaff. A gaff is when a politician speaks the truth but doesn't mean to say it out loud. They sure as hell hoped that Hispanics would show up and vote whether or not they're legal.

The DNC would be not be sad to have an illegal vote in that election, especially in Calfornia where they were very much making it about the border.

There are over 20 million illigals in this country a lots of them from Mexico all of them according to DNC demographics likely to vote Democrat. Yes they would like to have all 20 million of those in under an amnesty program to make them all legal voters but why do you think it is that they don't seem to care about people continuing to come in improving their demographic odds how would it improve their demographic odds if they aren't actually voting.

As I said to assume that NONE of the five million potential illegal voters in California did so is ridiculous.

To assume that the local state and national leaders of the DNC including President Obama himself would mind if they did more so.

There are no DNC initiatives to ensure that people that are voting are who they say they are and are qualified to vote. There's a reason why it's only on the right that we actually care about who votes.

 

[about_average]

And you specifically cut off the money quote and more importantly the question which was specifically about dreamers being discouraged from voting. Dreamers by definition cannot vote.

Yes, I only needed your first five words to illustrate your BS.

There's a reason why it's only on the right that we actually care about who votes.

Yes, of course there's a reason, because you are more alarmed by a theoretical 3.5% (using the Right's grossly exaggerated numbers) than you are by the 20% we know is an absolute fact.

 

[cowslinger64]

And you specifically cut off the money quote and more importantly the question which was specifically about dreamers being discouraged from voting. Dreamers by definition cannot vote.

And if you actually watch the clip, you can see just like the Joe the plumber quote that it's a gaff. A gaff is when a politician speaks the truth but doesn't mean to say it out loud. They sure as hell hoped that Hispanics would show up and vote whether or not they're legal.

The DNC would be not be sad to have an illegal vote in that election, especially in Calfornia where they were very much making it about the border.

There are over 20 million illigals in this country a lots of them from Mexico all of them according to DNC demographics likely to vote Democrat. Yes they would like to have all 20 million of those in under an amnesty program to make them all legal voters but why do you think it is that they don't seem to care about people continuing to come in improving their demographic odds how would it improve their demographic odds if they aren't actually voting.

As I said to assume that NONE of the five million potential illegal voters in California did so is ridiculous.

To assume that the local state and national leaders of the DNC including President Obama himself would mind if they did more so.

There are no DNC initiatives to ensure that people that are voting are who they say they are and are qualified to vote. There's a reason why it's only on the right that we actually care about who votes.

I love how you just "know" what Obama was thinking and how he erred saying what he did, when he didn't really mean to let that out.

That is pure vette... Perhaps you aren't any smarter than he is.

Sometimes drinking the koolaid just isn't healthy.. and as for the right being the ones that care, try looking at their tax bill proposals.. do you think they care about you?

So if there is some vast left wing conspiracy to have illegals vote and win the election, "we" didn't do a very good job of it. Seems stupid to focus on it now, we have an utter buffoon in office trying really hard to fuck people just like you.

 

[phrodeau]

If Republicans are claiming that illegals were voting, that means Republicans didn't do their job in monitoring the polls.

Republicans slacking? Whoever heard of such a thing?