Virgins

[gauchecritic]

it seems the readers are prone to get a little pissy if you have an unusual first time story.
I guess the homophobic reader doesn't like being tricked that way

Aah right. That's why I get regularly bombed. And there's me thinking it was because I was crap.

Gauche

 

[Uther_Pendragon]

I've read a few from the First Time category which appeared on the Story Feedback thread and based on that, they could as well be submitted in the Romance category. There's no pain, no tension, no uncertainty, nothing negative. It's all one mushy feel-good story.

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Well, I've posted one to the first-time section, and
written others not on Lit. As people have commented,
18-year-old virgins aren't all that rare in the 21st
century. A lot of girls start a lot younger, but not
everybody does.
I've been in Usenet discussions about 1st-time pain. It's
neither universal nor totally unknown. I suspect Tampax
has lowered the rate.
One aspect which is *totally* unreal is the 18YO virgin
anxious to have sex with the first guy who comes along.
Where has she been that she has never met a guy anxious
to have sex with her?
Another is the girl having her first orgasm, or an
especially strong one, in her first intercourse. (Although
the discussion mentioned above included a second-hand
report of a woman who had had both pain and an orgasm on
her first intercourse. The man reporting it said that he believed her -- since that intercourse hadn't been with him. Why lie about having pleasure with someone else?)

 

[English Lady]

Well i wrote a first time story not long back ,but i don't think it was in anyway typical. An unorthodox exercise has a virgin in it but she does the seducing. She is a romance/erotica writer and really (excuse the pun) She knows all the ins and outs. There's next to no pain because she is well worked up by the time it gets round to penetration !

Oh and just for the record..I was 19 when I lost mine..to the man who is now my husband... and it didn't hurt at all...it was so damn godd I wanted more, more MORE! *cackles evilly*


*EL goes off for a lie down*

 

[RenzaJones]

I lost it in a 1993 lincon town car. I was a few years shy of 18 all I can say is going over pot holes at 50 MPH was vastly more exciting than the sex.
Course I turned out to be a lesbian so maybe I wasn't all that into it to begin with.

 

[gauchecritic]

Course I turned out to be a lesbian so maybe I wasn't all that into it to begin with.

Don't fret, to paraphrase George Costanza: "Maybe it won't take."

Gauche (fearing reprisals from the 'other' Mrs)

 

[destinie21]

Don't fret, to paraphrase George Costanza: "Maybe it won't take."

Gauche (fearing reprisals from the 'other' Mrs)

Without getting vulgar let's just say she's plenty turned out.

 

[sweetnpetite]

All virgins (in lit stories) should be 19- to avoid the impression that they are only 18 years old because of there age.

then they need a reason for being a virgin (strict parents, relligion, fat kid ect.)

Then they need a reason to loose there virginity (parents far away, tempation to strong, lost weight, extreme makeover, forsaken religion of birth, joined cult, ect)

Anther idea is male virgins (ala American Pie) I'm sure there are a lot of guys who wanted to have sex as teens, but coudn't find a willing partner.

And then there's always gay's turned straight, or 'experimenting'

You've got to take the old idea, and make it new.

 

[wornoutkeyboard]

Seee....

I step away for a few days and see what happens! I miss 1/2 the discussion on one of my favorite topics!

I have *ahem* de-virginized 3 male virgins all over the age of 21. And I must say.... a bit of an obsession with it. I really enjoyed the experiences and really enjoyed the enthusiasm and the timid-ness of the experience.

I guess I have just had one too many times with "cock"-y (pun intended) guys that thought they were God's gift (to what I'll never be sure) and there is something emotionally endearing about the intensity of the experience with a virgin. I'm not gonna lie...as far as the bump and grind went...it was over before it started....but it is one of the elements that I enjoyed. There is something to be said for a guy so excited about being with you that things just "happen" too fast.

As a few people know, I am writing a novella (or novel...we'll see how it goes) centered around a de-virginizing experience (although it is an erotic thriller, so while the virgin aspect is integral to the story, it is anything but typical).

And to me... the whole thing about the 18 rule is really a non-issue. I really get off on older virgins....guys who are really at least 22 and up. There is something about the alienation that I find intriguing. Guess I am a sick-o.


Gotta say.... I really love them virgins.

~WOK

**edited to hide the fact that I am an idiot

 

[DarlingNikki]

I was with a virgin once. He was 24. Actually at the time, I kept wondering if it was a line to get me to take him home with me. Whatever, it worked.

I plan to write about it one of these days.

 

[OldnotDead]

What was the comment above about male virgins over 18 . . . "they couldn't find a willing partner" . Well, I was the apotheosis of that. From the age of 15 I think every one I dated was a virgin until the 20 year old I dated when I was 21 decided we would deflower each other. And then the next girlfriend was a virgin again! She inspired the one story I have in the First Time category.

I'm told that the statistics regarding sex are incredibly stable across the years. While not well publicised, a large portion of college freshmen arrive on campus with their 'virtue' intact. Someone more diligent than me can probalby find the numbers. What has increased is the amount of sexual activity and number of partners once the 'bridge is crossed'. Among the younger, active sexually, there is a disturbing amount of casual, unprotected sex.

I had the dubious 'honor' of getting to attend a sex education class as part of one of my children's confirmation classes. The woman who hosted it had a great deal of information about teen age statistics. The one that stuck for me was that the average time involved was three minutes. Made me at least feel better about getting older

 

[Gary Chambers]

>You've got to take the old idea, and make it new.

>All virgins (in lit stories) should be 19- to avoid the impression that they are only 18 years old because of there age.<

Sweetnpetite I couldn't agree more with the second statement above, nor wth the examples you offered to back it up. It sums up in a short sentence what my first post on this thread was trying to express in a more long winded way. Salutations.

The second statement above confuses me, however. If you are saying it's to avoid the impression that the author has made the virgin 18 only to comply with the law, you may have a point. But I'm not so sure the way to react to that shackling of literary freedom is to impose an even stiffer standard. Good writers often push boundaries. It gives publishers headaches, but that's just part of the system and goes back to Gutenberg I'm sure. If a story truly took the new view you advocate, and included the sensitive psychological aspects of the relationship, any censor would have a hard time winning in court against the publisher or writer. We have a right to reflect life as it truly is and should defend that right. Strike that, we have a duty.

GaryBob2

 

[Xelebes]

I haven't read the comedic lit stories (if there is any section or stories), but virginity can also be turned around into quite a humourous tale. Though, I don't know if there is any writers with the wit to write such. Maybe I'll give it a stab.

I shall explore the unexplores corners and shall edit this post when I see that I do bot these words to remain...

Edit -

Damn, there is...

I'm still gonna take a stab at it...

 

[The_Fool]

I was with a virgin once. He was 24. Actually at the time, I kept wondering if it was a line to get me to take him home with me. Whatever, it worked.

I plan to write about it one of these days.

Wondering if I could pass as a virgin....even though I have have teenage sons...

 

[Vincent E]

The entire Boston Bruins team knocking on my door to borrow a cup of sugar then being overcome by the desire to ravish me is a stretch of the imagination.....

So that explains it. It's all your fault they haven't been able to win at home this season.

 

[Icingsugar]

Without getting vulgar...

Chicken. Wotz wong wit vulgar?

 

[Em Keli 2003]

Well I suppose I was retarded with archaic notions that were rooted in the mythological belief I would give my viriginity up to the one I was to marry. (stop laughing and get up off the floor. I got over it.)

My girlfriend and I had been together almost two years. We had done about everything but the final act. At sixteen she gave me herself on my 18th birthday taking my "cherry". I remember most about the encounter was that I kept wondering to myself...."Is that all there is? What is the big fucking deal?" Since I have conciously or unconciously tried to make up for lost time.

She was no virgin. I would have appreciated the "gift" just as much two years earlier without the wait. Not that I am complaining mind you.

And the whole relationship got strained when her mum set out to bed me. Had I known then that we were never going anywhere ultimately, I would have ridden her mom to the wind.

Now the first time encounter I always prefer to treat as she and I are both virgins. Make it longggggg and slowwww. Then we play rabbit. But sometimes things are just too hot for that delay.

The whole virgin thing seems a bit over rated and fantasized beyond the factual reality and I think for women the second time is more pleasureable and instructive.

I have written a couple of "virgin" pieces but they are not sexual based as much as they are romance based.



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There's not much I can tell you.......

 

[Lovepotion69]

Hm, I lost my virginity at 19. Late 19, almost 20. One week before going off to Uni. Have taken two guys virginity too...

I'm going to read through this thread properly as I'm working on a First Time story. Actully just got to the point where they've started to kiss.
I have read a few stories within the category. Of course there are the usul cliche's, but we all know not every virgin feels pain/bleed etc. Do agree that lots of the stories within that category could go into the romance one, but that's common anyway. Most stories could be put into many categories.

 

[Gary Chambers]

Like most I can't see what all the fuss is about in real life terms. I lost my male virginity at twenty, maybe nineteen, can't really recall. It was New Years Eve and my date and I decided to duck out and park a few miles away in my '59 Chev station wagon. The steamed windows are more memorable today than the actual sex was, although some years later we staged an encore in a bed and it was one of the best nights of sex I've ever had.

Although I rabbit on about the psychological and emotional side of the deflowering experience, I don't recall any conscious effort to address my partner's emotional needs the first time. That waited for the aforementioned encore with its spectacular results. Nevertheless, I'm sure both of us in that old Chevy had a plethora of things going on in both our conscious and subconscious minds. Let's face it, a lot of people get screwed up by early sexual experiences including the experience of having sex denied them by the puritanical forces around us, relentlessly struggling to keep virgins from having any sex at all, let alone good sex.

To make the deflowering story new as Sweetnpetite wisely suggests, I think one needs to try to understand what may have been a hidden significance for the sex partners at the time. An emotionally healthy deflowering would obviously do more to foster a healthier ongoing sex life. Erotic literature can not only encourage such events, but help those who had less rewarding first times discover what they may yet need to learn. I think giving attention to the emotional and psychological aspects would also help shut down the puritanical critics, because you would end up with almost bullet proof arguments to support your work against censorhsip.

 

[whispering_surrender]

So that explains it. It's all your fault they haven't been able to win at home this season.

I'm terribly sorry, but did you notice they all are smiling lately?
*blinks innocently*

Whisper

 

[Mysteryjj]

Hello again

Umm glad you could make them smile Whispering

The thing you all seem to forget, the 18 rule only applies here on porn internet land, then it's self imposed to avoid offending the PC brigade.

The is no written law in my country or for that matter the US that prevents a serious work of fiction writing including an underage sex partner, or implied underage. Underage being below the legal age ie: 16 & under.

Fiction works written for a serious market and not aimed at the porn market can include any sexual act with any person or any creature or any item that you can dream of.

Look out if the porn market snap it up though, then you can be in shit street.

 

[dee1124]

Re: Re: Virgins

I wrote one. It was one of my first, and I think it still has more reads than anything else I ever wrote. Guess there must be some interest in the subject.

The third chapter of my Rhia Jones stories is a virgin-story, and while it hasn't gotten more reads than the others, it did get the highest rating. Go figure.

Oh, and Colly & Cookie, I was 19, too.

-- Dee

 

[ComfortablyCold]

I think the "virgin" story could work if written well enough.

Some people fantasize about the crazy, tight virgin sex and love it. Hence we have tons of porno movies with 18 year old cheerleaders giving in to the huge quarterback.

Others, myself included, enjoy virgin stories more to see the buildup, etc. First time experiences can be incredible romantic and be very interesting to read.

I can say that my first time experience will never be written about - it lastest a moment or so and kinda just happened after school one day . However, I think other first time experiences could be done and done well - it all depends on the intended audience.

 

[Gary Chambers]

All I can say is, that you are reading post number 47, Doc. For a subject that is not getting the airplay you thought it once had, it seems popular with this crowd. Are we to see a spate of deflowering stories I wonder?

 

[Dirty Slut]

I think the "virgin" story could work if written well enough.

Some people fantasize about the crazy, tight virgin sex and love it. Hence we have tons of porno movies with 18 year old cheerleaders giving in to the huge quarterback.

Others, myself included, enjoy virgin stories more to see the buildup, etc. First time experiences can be incredible romantic and be very interesting to read.

I can say that my first time experience will never be written about - it lastest a moment or so and kinda just happened after school one day . However, I think other first time experiences could be done and done well - it all depends on the intended audience.

What about a story of a ripe young white cheerleader, and a very black quarterback? Now that sounds absolutely raunchy, doesn't it.

DS

 

[ComfortablyCold]

hmmmm...I think I saw that one...