Vatican says Gay Marriage is Evil

[Missouribiguy]

Well, we got more of the same old song and dance from the Vatican again.

Vatican Says Gay Marriage is Evil

Again, I'm not surprise. Like a friend told me, this will probably loose some support for them.

What do you all think?

 

[AlecBond]

empty

 

[lightsaver]

It keeps them in the spotlight. Buncha drama queens in that place.

 

[Netzach]

But being Hitler Youth is dandy.

 

[CA_Irishpilot]

I say f*** the vatican.

Ohh, wait... this is why I am a Methodist. And I go to church w/ to wonderful ladies who are lesbian.


Never will I go back to the catholic church. Even though my family wants me to. NEVER




~IrishPilot

 

[Chicklet]

why aren't i surprised?

i stopped caring what the vatican thought a long time ago...

 

[SweetCherry]

I say f*** the vatican.

Ohh, wait... this is why I am a Methodist. And I go to church w/ to wonderful ladies who are lesbian.


Never will I go back to the catholic church. Even though my family wants me to. NEVER




~IrishPilot

I'm Methodist as well. but the Methodist church ain't all lovey dovey either. While they welcome queers in the congregation, remember the big stink over the lesbian minister a year or two ago? They'll let queers sit and listen to the sermon, as well as let them fork out money, but they won't let them be out and preach. Seems rather hypoctirical to me. Maybe that's why I seldom go to church.

 

[Wolfman1982]

It doesn´t surprice me when it comes to the vatican . SInce it is run by a Nazi . Nowadays anyway.
So as a person ealier said, fuck the vatican. Since the vatican sucks.

 

[Night_Jasmine]

I got into this fight with my mother on the phone last night, oddly enough. It's a load of horse manure, let me tell you. She's like "the Bible calls homosexuality an abomination and there's very few things that's called that."

*sighs* Can you tell how much trouble I'm going to have coming out?

 

[Programmer Cat]

I'm betting a larger population of the world thinks the vatican is evil.

Not to mention Christianity itself (as well as Islam).

 

[playwithlezli]

I got into this fight with my mother on the phone last night, oddly enough. It's a load of horse manure, let me tell you. She's like "the Bible calls homosexuality an abomination and there's very few things that's called that."

*sighs* Can you tell how much trouble I'm going to have coming out?

then again so is eating shellfish, or wearing two or more kinda fabrics...

 

[Wolfman1982]

I got into this fight with my mother on the phone last night, oddly enough. It's a load of horse manure, let me tell you. She's like "the Bible calls homosexuality an abomination and there's very few things that's called that."

*sighs* Can you tell how much trouble I'm going to have coming out?

NJ: save money up, if you got a job. Since then you can save up money, and then move away. When you have money enough. And then come out, and well Jasmine you are old enough. To have the strength, and give your family the finger. Since your situation is unhealthy. But why I am not out to my mother is because she is fucking nosy. And well I am no way in hell going to tell her it.

NJ: remove my curses, and then see the truth in it what I am saying. Since you deserve to live with yourself, being who ever you are inside. And not what your family predicts. And I am very serious about it. I had this situation conversation with a mate a couple of years ago, and well he is out today. And has the best life ever. And well his family is rather ok with it. And he lives in USA (I can give you the name of the city in a private message, and information of how to contact him).

 

[playwithlezli]

Evil Abounds

Why Can't I Own a Canadian?
>>>
>>>October 2002
>>>
>>>Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice
>>>to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that,
>>>as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination
>>>according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any
>>>circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned
>>>by a east coast resident, which was posted on the Internet. It's
>>>funny, as well as informative:
>>>
>>>Dear Dr. Laura:
>>>
>>>Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law.
>>>I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that
>>>knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to
>>>defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them
>>>that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End
>>>of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some
>>>of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
>>>
>>>When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates
>>>a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my
>>>neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I
>>>smite them?
>>>
>>>I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
>>>Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a
>>>fair price for her?
>>>
>>>I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in
>>>her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem
>>>is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take
>>>offense.
>>>
>>>Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
>>>female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A
>>>friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
>>>Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
>>>
>>>I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
>>>35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally
>>>obligated to kill him myself?
>>>
>>>A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
>>>abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than
>>>homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
>>>
>>>Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I
>>>have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading
>>>glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle
>>>room here?
>>>
>>>Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
>>>around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by
>>>Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
>>>
>>>I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
>>>me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
>>>
>>>My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two
>>>different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing
>>>garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester
>>>blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really
>>>necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town
>>>together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them
>>>to death at a private family affair like we do with people who
>>>sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
>>>
>>>I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am
>>>confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that
>>>God's word is eternal and unchanging.
>>>
>>>Your devoted fan,
>>>Jim

 

[Night_Jasmine]

I loved that!!!

Wolfie, you're right. I have a destination in mind too, once I get enough money together and can do it. *grins* Pass this training, and my job can come with me.

 

[Tymeless]

Lezli i love it.

while i'm a transwoman lesbian i don't get how people can pick and choose what to support in the bible and what not to considering over 30 books of the bible were thrown out by the catholic church in around 300 or 400ad i think it was. Most of these books that were thrown out very greatly but seem to be more about what the Christian Religion is supposed to be about and aren't about controlling the population that follows the religion. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all religions of controlling the people more so then their eastern counterparts or even the more western counter parts.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Tymeless you are talking about the gnostic gospels. And I think the vatican still has them in their great library, and also those we have found different places as papyrus rolls. But since the vatican is so closed minded. Then it would need a modern real "indiana jones" to get in and steal the gospells, and then scan them, and send them to people who will translate them all. Without the greesy hands of the catholic church.

 

[Tymeless]

yep i think your right there wolfie.

 

[Night_Jasmine]

I went to a baptist university and there was a HUGE mess when I got there. Someone in the archaelogical field had found references in old scrolls to a duality - God and Goddess. However, our "bible" only makes reference to the male and the feminine hebrew terms were played off as their god being motherly as well as father figure.

And if you think about it, hebrew is a poetic language, not to be taken literally. Then there's the whole "no god before me" issue. Thinking on that, it doesn't negate there are other deities out there - just that the hebrew god only wanted himself to be worshiped by the hebrews and not others.

It's all twisted and weird.

While I'm thinking on it - did anything happen to that James Cameron documentary about the occupied tomb?

 

[Tymeless]

I went to a baptist university and there was a HUGE mess when I got there. Someone in the archaelogical field had found references in old scrolls to a duality - God and Goddess. However, our "bible" only makes reference to the male and the feminine hebrew terms were played off as their god being motherly as well as father figure.

And if you think about it, hebrew is a poetic language, not to be taken literally. Then there's the whole "no god before me" issue. Thinking on that, it doesn't negate there are other deities out there - just that the hebrew god only wanted himself to be worshiped by the hebrews and not others.

It's all twisted and weird.

While I'm thinking on it - did anything happen to that James Cameron documentary about the occupied tomb?

yeah and the bible was originally written in Aramaic or something like that which noone on earth really knows how to translate fully. The thing is in Aramaic there were no words for time no words for colors so what else wasn't there words for when it got translated to hebrew then to latin and then to english etc.

 

[SweetCherry]

yeah and the bible was originally written in Aramaic or something like that which noone on earth really knows how to translate fully. The thing is in Aramaic there were no words for time no words for colors so what else wasn't there words for when it got translated to hebrew then to latin and then to english etc.

If you ever get the chance, watch the History Channel when they have their biblical stuff. It's some really enlightening stuff. Definately gives you an insight on how some of the current biblical wordings came into being.

 

[Wolfman1982]

yeah and the bible was originally written in Aramaic or something like that which noone on earth really knows how to translate fully. The thing is in Aramaic there were no words for time no words for colors so what else wasn't there words for when it got translated to hebrew then to latin and then to english etc.

Aramaic is still spoken, so there is a way of translating the bible. But it IS only the new testament that is written aramaic (of what I know of anyway). But anyway, let someone steal the gnostic gospels, that the vatican denies having , and and steal every thing from them. And let it be translated, since I am so damn tired of the double standards of it all

 

[Night_Jasmine]

Actually..the OT is still in hebrew. The NT is Aramaic. *shrugs*

 

[Wolfman1982]

Actually..the OT is still in hebrew. The NT is Aramaic. *shrugs*

Oh great, then I knew I was right

 

[Tymeless]

Aramaic is still spoken, so there is a way of translating the bible. But it IS only the new testament that is written aramaic (of what I know of anyway). But anyway, let someone steal the gnostic gospels, that the vatican denies having , and and steal every thing from them. And let it be translated, since I am so damn tired of the double standards of it all

Aramaic is only known by about 5 people world wide and they aren't even sure they know it exactly right. least thats the understanding i got from the documentary i watched this last christmas.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Aramaic is only known by about 5 people world wide and they aren't even sure they know it exactly right. least thats the understanding i got from the documentary i watched this last christmas.

Tymeless, sorry to burst your bubble, but your statement is wrong. Aramaic is spoken by people in Syria Iran Iraq and Georgia (the country) and they and some of them are in in church circles. And also the writing language is based on hebrew, And the jewish Talmud is also written in Aramaic. I am sorry for shooting your comment into smitherins. But sometimes I do it. Since the only way, is not going through Hollywood as a source(the Stigmata movie is the one I am thinking off), and I have heard the "our father" prayer in Aramaic (JC also spoke in Aramaic by the way) . And well there ARE more than 5 people who speaks the Aramaic language, but I agree with you. That it is a near extinct language

"Aramæisk er en fællesbetegnelse for de sprog, som opstod i det nuværende Syrien omkring år 1000fvt - spredte sig til hele det Nære Østen. Omkring 700fvt var aramæisk handelssprog i hele Mellemøsten, og det erstattede gradvist akkadisk og hebræisk. Enkelte dele af Det Gamle Testamente blev skrevet på aramæisk. Jesus talte aramæisk, og det Nye Testamente blev oprindelig skrevet på dette sprog. Også jødernes Talmud blev skrevet på aramæisk. Nærlæsning af diverse hellige skrifter har naturligvis afsløret en række dialekter, som det er ret indviklet at komme ind på her - men de er blandt andet skyld i de utallige nyoversættelser og nyfortolkninger af skrifterne, som Verden til stadighed er udsat for.

Aramæisk forsvandt omkring år 600, fortrængt af arabisk. Det bruges dog stadig som kirkesprog for visse kristne menigheder - og omkring 300.000 mennesker taler i dag syrisk - et sprog som er direkte efterkommer af aramæisk. Det drejer sig om små kristne befolkningsgrupper i Syrien, Iran, Irak og Georgien. Den aramæiske skrift var baseret på hebræisk"

source is this

http://hjem.get2net.dk/sprogbog/afroasia.htm#aram

and here is the Danish wikipedia source

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramæisk

here is the English source for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_language