Using basic terms incorrectly...

[richard_daily]

I didn't claim anarchy is right wing, you need to learn how to read....in a bad way.

Pointing out others commonly held beliefs isn't the same as claiming those beliefs as your own.

Oh, so "someone else" said it. You were just parroting their words (multiple times). You said it, but you don't believe it.

Who is this mysterious "someone else"?

 

[Hypoxia]

Basic definitions:

Socialist: One who has been socialized i.e. potty-trained
Anti-Socialist: One opposed and unexposed to potty training.
Anarchist: One who opposes statist or corporate potty training.
Libertarian: One who favors free-market potty training and slavery.
Communist: Something about stealing all the porta-potties or whatever.

I hope that's all clear.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

anger/angry gets thrown around a lot and used incorrectly.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh, so "someone else" said it. You were just parroting their words (multiple times). You said it, but you don't believe it.

Not at all you illiterate buffoon.

Pointing out that some people consider the ultimate in social Darwinism and economic capitalism as right wing is not the same as me stating that it is my personal belief that anarchism is right wing.

Just like your citation of socialist being posers and claiming anarchism doesn't make advocating socialism and communism the same thing as anarchism, and is a piss poor argument for such an idiotic idea.

LEARN TO READ.....jesus christ in a bucket it must be a Chicago public skool thing.

Who is this mysterious "someone else"?

You made "someone else" up, you tell me....

 

[MGurkus]

Dave's not home man.

 

[richard_daily]

Not at all you illiterate buffoon.

Pointing out that some people consider the ultimate in social Darwinism and economic capitalism as right wing is not the same as me stating that it is my personal belief that anarchism is right wing.

Just like your citation of socialist being posers and claiming anarchism doesn't make advocating socialism and communism the same thing as anarchism, and is a piss poor argument for such an idiotic idea.

LEARN TO READ.....jesus christ in a bucket it must be a Chicago public skool thing.



You made "someone else" up, you tell me....

Who are these alleged "some people"?

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Who are these alleged "some people"?

Bot, Miles and Vette.

Woof!

 

[richard_daily]

Bot, Miles and Vette.

Woof!

So... idiots.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

that waters guy just misread an entire conversation and then tried to smart-aleck his way out of it. does that count?

 

[richard_daily]

that waters guy just misread an entire conversation and then tried to smart-aleck his way out of it. does that count?

It counts as having to repeat the 2nd grade, twice.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who are these alleged "some people"?

A number of classical liberal and libertarian types, a majority of them I'd guess.

Primary argument is that in the real world freedom from government authority facilitates the ultimate free market and extreme social darwinism. Those are things the right wing generally considers as positive.

It sure as fuck does not result in the equitable distribution of social and economic prosperity that the left is all about.

Leftism ONLY happens with government authority....except in dreamy bullshit hypothetical utopia land.

Try reading some books not written by leftist totally detached from reality sometime.

So... idiots.

Well they aren't smart enough to consider the Soviet Union and Red China right wing capitalist (LMFAO!!!) so you'd probably consider them as such.

All the individual freedoms, freedom of association and economic exchange they desire is a clear demonstration of their idiocy. Everyone knows the state does the best job of managing peoples personal lives and economies than the people!

Right??

 

[richard_daily]

A number of classical liberal and libertarian types, try reading some books not written by leftist sometime.

Why are you afraid to name these "some people"?

 

[richard_daily]

All the individual freedom of association and economic exchange they desire is a clear demonstration of their idiocy. Everyone knows the state does the best job of managing peoples personal lives!

Right??

More proof that you fail to understand the definition, concept, and implementation of anarchy; historically and currently.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why are you afraid to name these "some people"?

I'm not I just don't feel the need to spoon feed you things you're not going to listen to anyhow.

More proof that you fail to understand the definition, concept, and implementation of anarchy; historically and currently.

So explain it to me where I'm wrong.

Definition of anarchism

1 :a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
2 :the advocacy or practice of anarchistic principles

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism

What part of the definition of anarchism makes it definitively a left wing political theory/philosophy??

 

[richard_daily]

I'm not I just don't feel the need to spoon feed you things you're not going to listen to anyhow.

You are hiding behind "some people" who don't exist. I understand why. You're incapable of admitting that you're wrong about anything.

So explain it to me where I'm wrong.

What about anarchism.



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism

That makes anarchism definitively a left wing political theory/philosophy??

Despite the fact that EVERY OTHER bit of leftism holds government authority as a central and fundamental necessity of their political philosophy?

Wrong.

Leftism is about egalitarianism. Which is what the vast amount of anarchists are about. You simply don't want to believe, so you refuse to take the mountains of information that's already been provided to you that proves it.

 

[richard_daily]

Here dude...

Show me ANYTHING that counters this:

Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates some form of political anarchy or egalitarianism in decision making (with the exceptions of decisions of individual rights, which are enshrined as unchangeable in order to prevent mob rule and the squelching of minority rights) as preferable to active or hierarchical government.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anarchism

As I've established, hierarchical methods are firmly right wing. Egalitarian methods are left wing.

You're completely and absolutely wrong about your understanding about anarchy.

 

[richard_daily]

Socialism is NOT a hierarchical form of government. Therefore, the two methods of belief are NOT incongruous. Show me ANYTHING that proves your point. Tell me who "some people" are, or sit down and shut up and admit you're wrong.

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production,[10] as well as the political theories, and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[13] Social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

 

[BotanyBoy]

You are hiding behind "some people" who don't exist. I understand why. You're incapable of admitting that you're wrong about anything.

No I've admitted I was wrong when I was. Pick up some books by libertarians sometime, most of them consider anarchist out on the fringe loony right or a totally separate class of no-wing apolitical brand of politics.

I'm of the latter school of thought.

Wrong.

Leftism is about egalitarianism.

And how exactly do you see rejecting all government authority (an anarchist) is supportive of egalitarianism?

Which is what the vast amount of anarchists are about.

No, anarchist don't give a fuck about egalitarianism. They hold all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable. They are free market capitalist and social darwinist.....

Definition of anarchism

1 :a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
2 :the advocacy or practice of anarchistic principles

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism


Nothing about egalitarianism anywhere near the definition of anarchism.

Probably because anarchism facilitates the exact opposite.

 

[richard_daily]

No, anarchist don't give a fuck about egalitarianism. They hold all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable. They are free market capitalist and social darwinist.....

Wrong.

Absolutely, and 100% wrong. You have NOTHING to back up your claim, other than your opinion which is based solely and entirely on what you WANT to believe, rather than any facts or anything to back it up.

 

[richard_daily]

Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates some form of political anarchy or egalitarianism in decision making (with the exceptions of decisions of individual rights, which are enshrined as unchangeable in order to prevent mob rule and the squelching of minority rights) as preferable to active or hierarchical government.

Note, it DOESN'T say anything about Anarchism being a right leaning, capitalist paradise ANYWHERE in the description, because you're inventing it all, lock, stock and barrel.

The fact that you can't name a single source for your opinion is just further proof of that.

 

[richard_daily]

By the way, you may want to look up what "voluntary cooperation" means.

Hint, it's not the free market, it IS egalitarianism.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Wrong.

Absolutely, and 100% wrong.

If that's true then explain to me how anarchism facilitates egalitarianism in any way shape form or fashion beyond being equally free from government authority.

You have NOTHING to back up your claim,

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Yes....I do.

Definition of anarchism

1 :a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
2 :the advocacy or practice of anarchistic principles

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism


That facilitates free market capitalism and unfettered social darwinism, not egalitarianism.

Egalitarianism requires government authority.....socialism....communism....social justice.

The exact thing anarchism is by definition opposed to.

 

[richard_daily]

If that's true then explain to me how anarchism facilitates egalitarianism in any way shape form or fashion beyond being equally free from government authority.

anarchism IS egalitarianism. It's in just about every document out there about it. You've been provided with them dozens of times in this thread. You refuse to accept it, because you are pig headed.
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Yes....I do.



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism

That's egalitarianism, dude...

You've seriously just been posting that definition over and over and over, and it proves you wrong. You're just too dense to get it.

That facilitates free market capitalism and unfettered social darwinism, not egalitarianism.

Egalitarianism requires government authority.....socialism....communism....social justice.

The exact thing anarchism is by definition opposed to.

Wrong. You just don't understand the definition, and you don't understand that social darwinism IS NOT voluntary cooperation. They are diametrically opposed, in fact.

Darwin didn't define evolution as voluntary cooperation in Origin of a Species, did he?

No, I didn't think so... in fact, it's quite the opposite.

 

[BotanyBoy]

By the way, you may want to look up what "voluntary cooperation" means.

Hint, it's not the free market, it IS egalitarianism.

Buuuu shit.

BUUUUUUUUUUUU shit.

Voluntary cooperation is a critical component to the free market. No voluntary cooperation? Not a free market.

Egalitarianism doesn't give a shit about voluntary anything or cooperation, it cares about making sure everyone gets equitable social and economic prosperity/power.

Thus socialism, social justice and communism....left wing.

 

[richard_daily]

Buuuu shit.

BUUUUUUUUUUUU shit.

Voluntary cooperation is a critical component to the free market. No voluntary cooperation? Not a free market.

Egalitarianism doesn't give a shit about voluntary anything or cooperation, it cares about making sure everyone gets equitable social and economic prosperity/power.

Thus socialism, social justice and communism....left wing.

So if I decide that I don't want to voluntarily cooperate, the free market ceases to affect me?

Come on dude... you can't be that ignorant.