USA's Left Conspicuously Silent about UK's Tory Landslide

[domroger]

American Litsters: please don't believe everything posted about UK politics here. Too much over-simplified, glossed-over BS. If you prefer to believe The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph and News Statesman, then lap it up. The truth is out there, but it's best not to trust Murdoch's media .

Especially Fox .

 

[oggbashan]

American Litsters: please don't believe everything posted about UK politics here. Too much over-simplified, glossed-over BS. If you prefer to believe The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph and News Statesman, then lap it up. The truth is out there, but it's best not to trust Murdoch's media .

Whatever the media said, the Conservatives won a majority and that wasn't expected.

 

[CeriseBuss]

Whatever the media said, the Conservatives won a majority and that wasn't expected.

To what do you attribute the surprising election results?

 

[stickygirl]

To what do you attribute the surprising election results?

An opposition leader who should never been leader: he's out of his depth, out of touch and totally out of ideas. I believe he's a decent bloke but has a naive attitude to the real world.

Boris on the other hand is a complete cunt, but a clever one: knows how to spin a story; will do anything including lying to promote himself. People were happy to ignore his sexism, racism and connections with Russia and corrupt bankers because 'he's got a cheeky smile'.

 

[stickygirl]

Whatever the media said, the Conservatives won a majority and that wasn't expected.

But the media did everything it could to ensure the result.

 

[oggbashan]

An opposition leader who should never been leader: he's out of his depth, out of touch and totally out of ideas. I believe he's a decent bloke but has a naive attitude to the real world.

Boris on the other hand is a complete cunt, but a clever one: knows how to spin a story; will do anything including lying to promote himself. People were happy to ignore his sexism, racism and connections with Russia and corrupt bankers because 'he's got a cheeky smile'.

Corbyn is an even bigger cunt and a stupid one. He has never changed his Marxist views even though he was repeatedly told that they repelled many Labour supporters. His position on Brexit was just ridiculous and upset any leavers of whom there were many who had supported Labour for decades. A choice between leaving with a Labour-negotiated deal which Labour grandees had indicated would be on the EU's terms OR revoke Article 50? If you voted leave that was no choice at all.

 

[stickygirl]

So it's down to a stupid, or a clever, cunt That about sums up our election.


Surprised at you using such language Oggs

 

[oggbashan]

So it's down to a stupid, or a clever, cunt That about sums up our election.


Surprised at you using such language Oggs

I'm angry because it was a poor choice between two unattractive positions. Both parties have better people to lead them than we were presented with. We needed a 'none of the above' choice on the ballot paper.

 

[DMBFFF]

The Prime Minister of the UK has less power than a US President. Our Head of State is still Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth 11 (or 1 in Scotland) who has even less power than the Prime Minister.

QE I? So they have that? I learn something new.
I read in some places she's still the Duchess.


UK and Canada might be different in that. A Cdn PM with a majority is a little like a mafia boss. He (and save for for a leader who lost all but 2 seats it's always a he) might fawn all over the queen, but he essentially chooses the SC justices and senators, is the leader of party and parliament, and is the de facto executive. Trump has a Pelosi to contend with, Trudeau doesn't.

I'm angry because it was a poor choice between two unattractive positions. Both parties have better people to lead them than we were presented with. We needed a 'none of the above' choice on the ballot paper.

Why not a minority party?

 

[stickygirl]

I'm angry because it was a poor choice between two unattractive positions. Both parties have better people to lead them than we were presented with. We needed a 'none of the above' choice on the ballot paper.

Totally agree: two servings of shit sandwich

 

[oggbashan]

QE I? So they have that? I learn something new.
I read in some places she's still the Duchess.

...

Scotland had never had a Queen Elizabeth before they joined the Union. So in Scotland she is the first Queen Elizabeth. The first Queen Elizabeth was Queen of England (and Wales). At the time of the Coronation in 1953 some Scots vandalised new post boxes with the QEII symbol on them.

Her Majesty also has other titles in the Channel Islands and on the Isle of Man for example, and is head of the Commonwealth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Mann

In the Channel Islands The Queen is known as The Duke of Normandy. At official functions, islanders raise the loyal toast to 'The Duke of Normandy, our Queen'.

 

[DMBFFF]

more edumacation for me

Scotland had never had a Queen Elizabeth before they joined the Union. So in Scotland she is the first Queen Elizabeth. The first Queen Elizabeth was Queen of England (and Wales). At the time of the Coronation in 1953 some Scots vandalised new post boxes with the QEII symbol on them.

makes sense.

Her Majesty also has other titles in the Channel Islands and on the Isle of Man for example, and is head of the Commonwealth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Mann

"For these reasons, the correct formal usage, as used in the Isle of Man for the Loyal Toast, is The Queen, Lord of Mann."

"The title is now Lord of Mann regardless of gender. However, during her reign, Queen Victoria was styled as Lady of Mann."

I think the older was better: "lady" is gender specific, "Lord" like "he" as in "Anyone can be PM of Britain if he gets enough votes," is problematic due a lack of concision on whether it's gender neutral by implication of context, or gender specific. It seems to me the "queen" bit takes a bit away from the specialness of these little islands.

In the Channel Islands The Queen is known as The Duke of Normandy. At official functions, islanders raise the loyal toast to 'The Duke of Normandy, our Queen'.

I remember reading an old National Geographic years ago where she was toasted as "Duchess of Normandy."

"Duchess of Normandy ... Our Duchess."

That'd be way cooler.

 

[stickygirl]

Why is it that we have to wait for politicians to retire before they start speaking sense? YouTube just popped up an interview with Lord Heseltine, who's so old that he makes Ogg look like a spring lamb, but he is still capable of talking sense ( not that Ogg doesn't of course... well, some of the time )
When they're in power they talk bollocks, do the wrong thing (if anything at all), and wriggle like a worm caught on garden fork when asked a reasonable question.

 

[oggbashan]

Why is it that we have to wait for politicians to retire before they start speaking sense? YouTube just popped up an interview with Lord Heseltine, who's so old that he makes Ogg look like a spring lamb, but he is still capable of talking sense ( not that Ogg doesn't of course... well, some of the time )
When they're in power they talk bollocks, do the wrong thing (if anything at all), and wriggle like a worm caught on garden fork when asked a reasonable question.

In the House of Commons and in the House of Lords, you will find politicians talking sense almost every working day - but that is not newsworthy.

The interviewers of the media love asking unanswerable questions looking for a scandal or a break from the official line. Their questions are usually in the same genre as 'when did you stop beating your mother?'. Politicians are taught to avoid those questions or to answer the question that wasn't asked.