US official: Up to $8 billion wasted rebuilding Iraq

[koalabear]

'Doomed from the beginning': $200M wasted on Iraqi police training, report says

Despite years and billions of dollars of training, Iraq's police force remains a vulnerable target for militants. On Sunday, seven police were killed and nine more wounded in bombings and shootings near the former al-Qaida stronghold of Fallujah, about 40 miles west of Baghdad. It appeared to be the latest strike by the Sunni insurgency as it seeks to reclaim areas where U.S. troops ousted them.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...ted-on-iraqi-police-training-report-says?lite


I blame Bush.

 

[busybody..]

the same in Afghnistan

and yes, Bush shares the huge blame

 

[BotanyBoy]

No fucking shit....I knew we were pissing in the wind when we offered to build them a water treatment facility, and they rejected it to build....ANOTHER MOSQUE.

So we built them more mosque's...those people are hopeless.

 

[kbate]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wor...-killed-in-taliban-attack-in-afghanistan.html

Lit Official - up to $7 trillion wasted in training NATO troops, they remain easy targets for insurgents.

 

[busybody..]

So we built them more mosque's...those people are hopeless.

and other MOOSEFUKS keep blowing em up

WTF ARE WE SPENDING OUR $$$ ON EM?

 

[koalabear]

Isn't a lasting peace worth it?

 

[eastsidegent]

Afghanistan...actually made some level of sense on its face....going into Iraq was merely the US trying to show the world it had a bigger dick....the rest of the world looked and basically said....just what we thought...the US is a big dick, so what?

 

[eastsidegent]

I feel that same way about churches in this country.

 

[busybody..]

I feel that same way about churches in this country.

hopefully you will be DISMEMBERED

 

[oggbashan]

If the US and its allies had allowed some Iraqis who had supported the previous regime to remain in post during a transition period; had accepted that government-run institutions are not necessarily tainted by association; and let some of Saddam Hussein's armed forces continue to provide security before a new government was formed...

There might not have been a need for so much reconstruction, and such a massive learning curve for the new government.

You couldn't do it that way? Why not?

It worked in Germany and Japan post 1945.

 

[busybody..]

If the US and its allies had allowed some Iraqis who had supported the previous regime to remain in post during a transition period; had accepted that government-run institutions are not necessarily tainted by association; and let some of Saddam Hussein's armed forces continue to provide security before a new government was formed...

There might not have been a need for so much reconstruction, and such a massive learning curve for the new government.

You couldn't do it that way? Why not?

It worked in Germany and Japan post 1945.

but we didnt

and teh bigger point is

WE ARE GONNA MAKE TEH SAME MISTAKE IN THE OTHER SHITHOLE

AFGHANISTAN

 

[kbate]

It worked in Germany and Japan post 1945.

Germany and Japan were truly beaten - the armies knew it, the people knew it and the Allies knew it. In Iraq, we defeated the Iraqi Army and thought that meant we'd defeated Iraq. There is a huge difference, as any good Englishman knows, between defeating a military (pre-Dunkerque) and defeating a people Battle of Britain and onward).

 

[koalabear]

If the US and its allies had allowed some Iraqis who had supported the previous regime to remain in post during a transition period; had accepted that government-run institutions are not necessarily tainted by association; and let some of Saddam Hussein's armed forces continue to provide security before a new government was formed...

There might not have been a need for so much reconstruction, and such a massive learning curve for the new government.

You couldn't do it that way? Why not?

It worked in Germany and Japan post 1945.

So they should have allowed the red scarves to keep killing the blue scarves, cool.

 

[oggbashan]

Maybe you are right for Germany, but not for Japan.

They had not been told the truth about their defeats.

The army and people were preparing for island by island, city by city, street by street and house by house resistance with possible national suicide. Only the Emperor's unparallelled intervention stopped the Japanese from guerilla warfare on a massive scale.

 

[oggbashan]

So they should have allowed the red scarves to keep killing the blue scarves, cool.

They still are, and vice-versa.

 

[koalabear]

They still are, and vice-versa.

They always will, there has never been peace in that region. There never will be.

 

[kbate]

Maybe you are right for Germany, but not for Japan.

They had not been told the truth about their defeats.

The army and people were preparing for island by island, city by city, street by street and house by house resistance with possible national suicide. Only the Emperor's unparallelled intervention stopped the Japanese from guerilla warfare on a massive scale.

The government in Japan never admitted anything, they told their people day after day they were winning.

The people in Japan were and are not stupid. They knew a B29 from a Betty (Betties didn't drop bombs over Tokyo).

 

[blobfish]

Wahhabists are a lot different than post-war Japanese. The Japanese essentially worshipped the Emperor, as was required of Shinto adherents. In Islam, there is no central authority.

 

[kbate]

Wahhabists are a lot different than post-war Japanese. The Japanese essentially worshipped the Emperor, as was required of Shinto adherents. In Islam, there is no central authority.

Try attacking Mecca, Medina or Qum and see if they find one.

 

[blobfish]

Try attacking Mecca, Medina or Qum and see if they find one.

Obviously there are religious authorities "in charge" of certain areas, but the radicals have no respect for them.

 

[eyer]

Iraq is a majority Shia country, ruled ruthlessly for so long by Hussein and the Sunni minority...

...NEWS FLASH: Sunnis and Shia have always murdered each other with particular glee.

No amount of money can "rebuild" such ideological separation.