Unprecedented; Obama insults Supreme Court!

[amicus]

Not even FDR who had the unmitigated gall to try to 'pack' the Court to push through his Socialist agenda(and failed), was as boorish as Obama when he scolded the Justices during the State of the Union address to both Houses of Congress.

So as not to hijack the 'hurray for killing babies thread', I brought the following to a new venue:


DeeZire, Post #123

Haze - are you deliberately missing my point? Men and women are held to different levels of accountability when it comes to procreation. It's a physical fact, since only one sex carries the baby. When 50% of babies are carried and birthed by men, you can get back to me on the finer points of accountability.

I will admit to being in a horribly pissy mood, ever since I sat through the childish approach of the R's during the SOTU address - sitting on their hands and refusing to applaud measures they would have applauded had they come from a conservative, rather then a liberal. This pissy mood has carried over into my posting persona, and for that I apologize.[/QUOTE]

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Prediction were that Obama would move to the political Center to attempt to salvage his rejected far left legislative efforts over the past year.

Refusing to acknowledge a corrupted TARP Bailout plan for Financial and Labor Giants, failing to admit the promised 8% unemployment if the "Stimulus Plan", was passed(unemployment is still at 10%); with Republicans sweeping three recent elections, one to the Senate, the death throes of the Obamacare Socialized Medicine Legislation, the "Cap and Tax" anti energy bill in Limbo, the greatest debt and deficit in the Nations History, this tone deaf President spoke in arrogant terms disrgarding the will of the People and plans to continue pushing for far left wing Legislation.

Good!

Come November, the off term elections will reflect the will of center right America to put a stop to the far left agenda and open the possibility of a one term President who is even less informed than poor Jimmy Carter.

Hands down this will be the worst President and the worst set of policies, domestic and foreign, that this Nation has ever endured.

No wonder DeeZire is in a 'pissy mood', the whole dream world of the Left is collapsing about her head into crumbled crap on the parquet floor.

Heh!

Amicus

 

[Lisa Summers]

Amicus, your writing style is much too dense for me.

However, I agree with you that Obama displayed a chilidish demeanor, and extremely boorish behavior in regard to the SCOTUS justices at the State of the Union address.

 

[amicus]

Amicus, your writing style is much too dense for me.

However, I agree with you that Obama displayed a chilidish demeanor, and extremely boorish behavior in regard to the SCOTUS justices at the State of the Union address.[/QUOTE]

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My apologies, Lisa, for the density; it is an attempt to pack as much information into as small a space as possible as anything I might leave out will be pounced upon.

Thank you for your thoughts...

Amicus

 

[Lisa Summers]

Amicus, your writing style is much too dense for me.

However, I agree with you that Obama displayed a chilidish demeanor, and extremely boorish behavior in regard to the SCOTUS justices at the State of the Union address.[/QUOTE]

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My apologies, Lisa, for the density; it is an attempt to pack as much information into as small a space as possible as anything I might leave out will be pounced upon.

Thank you for your thoughts...

Amicus

I think that's why I don't get you. I pack as little information as possible into as large a space as possible (if you've read any of my stories.)

Best regards to you!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Imagine a three year old who just had his toy truck taken away from him by his big sister...that's what Obama is now.

 

[amicus]

There are a few things I would like to add to the Original Post:

Guantanamo in Cuba is still open and likely to remain so and the New York 'Show Trials' of 9/11 Terrorists will not be held in New York City.

Imperial means Empire, as in ruled by a King, and this Administration is displaying characteristics of Imperial Rule as Obama, with due apologies to the Justice Branch, shows intent to challenge Supreme Court Rulings that he disagrees with.

Further, the Legislative Branch, Congress, the House and Senate, and all the previous rules of Partisan Politics seem to have been thrown out the door with the Democrat majority in both Houses and the absolute lack of Joint decisions on issues. The fault for this falls entirely on the Executive Branch, the President and his Administration as they refuse to consider any input from the Minority Party.

Obama plans to pull Combat Troops out of Iraq this summer, even as the violence increases, and, against his campaign rhetoric, has increased the troop levels in Afghanistan by 30,000 boots on the ground.

Everything this President has done has turned sour and the American Voting Public is well aware of his abject failure as a leader.

Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

Not even FDR --

Hands down this will be the worst President and the worst set of policies, domestic and foreign, that this Nation has ever endured.

Heh!

Amicus

Not True!

George W. Bush was the worst president ever! He started two, count then, TWO Fucking wars and didn't finish either of them, bankrupted the country for the next 20 years and was a fucking moron to boot!

I know you "hate socialists" but get a grip.

 

[amicus]

Ah, yes, JackLuis, I forgot to mention that even a year into this Imperial Presidency, Obama is still blaming Bush, as you are.

And the two wars crap, is just that, crap. Bush was in office for eight months when the Islamic Terrorists attacked America in New York City and the Pentagon.

It is one war of many facets, beginning when European Colonies in the Mid East crawled out from under the British, French and Spanish Empires. Continuing with the United Nations recognition of Israel in 1947 and the entire Arab Nation ganging up on the new State.

It will continue even more when Iran attempts to obliterate Israel, as they have boasted, and when the US and the Coalition decide they have had enough of Islamic Rule and eliminate Iran from supplying arms to Arab Terrorists around the world.

Fifty years from now there will still be Western Powers managing Middle East rogue Nations.

Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

Ah, yes, JackLuis, I forgot to mention that even a year into this Imperial Presidency, Obama is still blaming Bush, as you are.

And the two wars crap, is just that, crap. Bush was in office for eight months when the Islamic Terrorists attacked America in New York City and the Pentagon.

Amicus

Yes two wars on his watch, Al Q is not a country, there is no declaration of war only the vague mumblings of a complicit Congress.

Afghanistan was shaping up to be a cake walk, until Rummy and the W, decided to knock off Saddam. The Special Forces had things well in hand until Rummy sent in the Big units and the war got completely out of hand.

Only Bush was thinking that he could extend his presidency if the war was still going on, No body would unseat a War President, after all. He thought he could knock off Saddam for $200 Billion, cheap right, no stupid, because he didn't think about governing Iraq after.

Now even in your warped mind how do 100,000 casualties compare with 3,000. how about 200,000 to the 3,000 lost in 9/11? Not that we should be counting bodies, that's dehumanizing. We learned that in Viet Nam.

SO Osama has killed maybe what, 4,000, in 9/11, the Cole and the Embassies? He is a piker compared to Bush.

But Bush killed in a Holy Cause? Don't feed me that. Bush took on an enemy that can only be beaten by accurate intelligence and alienated all the snitches with his Christen Warrior bullshit. Stupid, despite his MBA.

Yes the Mid-east is a mess, has been for a couple of thousand years, will be for a few more thousand. The Arabs and Persians have the political appetites of the lowest vilest type, and their Religious Leaders are not much better.

Israel's problem with Iran will end if the Israel can cut a deal with the Palestinians. It sounds close now if Hammas is talking recognition of Israel.

 

[TE999]

To say Obama's continuing to operate above his pay grade is an understatement. Clinton at least had a roguish demeanor about him while he denigrated the Oval Office.

Obama's coming across as an insufferable prig that is totally inflexible when it comes to a discussion of conflicting ideas. He practically had apoplexy during his confrontation with the Republicans when they had the temerity to both question
and demand answers from him vis a vis his policies. It was an opportunity to engage in honest debate and reach out to the opposition party and in his self-satisfied smugness he muffed it.

To chide the Supreme Court for not recognizing his intellectual superiority is truly monumental arrogance. Now that his approval/disapproval ratings have merged at 48% each, the only way is down. He's hoisted himself on his own petard.

Congressional deadlock as more Republicans are elected in the months to come is assured. Obama's Progressive/Socialist dreams of glory will remain exactly that, dreams.

 

[Pure]

ami's demons

//his [obama's] rejected far left legislative efforts //

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i hope someday ami meets someone on the far left*; heck i'd settle for him *reading* a 'far left' book. and no, ami, the coverleaf of Teddy's autobio doesn't count.

*the latter exercizing his 2nd amendment rights

 

[Zeb_Carter]

To say Obama's continuing to operate above his pay grade is an understatement. Clinton at least had a roguish demeanor about him while he denigrated the Oval Office.

Obama's coming across as an insufferable prig that is totally inflexible when it comes to a discussion of conflicting ideas. He practically had apoplexy during his confrontation with the Republicans when they had the temerity to both question
and demand answers from him vis a vis his policies. It was an opportunity to engage in honest debate and reach out to the opposition party and in his self-satisfied smugness he muffed it.

To chide the Supreme Court for not recognizing his intellectual superiority is truly monumental arrogance. Now that his approval/disapproval ratings have merged at 48% each, the only way is down. He's hoisted himself on his own petard.

Congressional deadlock as more Republicans are elected in the months to come is assured. Obama's Progressive/Socialist dreams of glory will remain exactly that, dreams.

Dat dar is Chicaga polotickin'. That's how Daley did it and that's how Daley does it. If you don't like stick it. I am in power here and nobody is gonna git in my way.

 

[amicus]

JackLuis in Post #10, has all the answers to military conflict and it is all the fault of the US and Bush in particular.

Amazing narrow mindedness....

There are many theories on the nature of human conflict over History, you have yours, I have mine, and that is perhaps why people offer their conclusions and theories for others to consider.

I see the United States in a special way because it is my country and I respect the principles upon which it was founded.

Were it not for the US, Germany would now control all of Europe and Russia; the same might be said concerning Japan, all of Southeast Asia would comprise the Japanese Empire.

Just last evening I watched a documentary, "Korea, The Forgotten War", and a fictional film, "MacArthur", his exploits in WW2 and his final demise when Truman fired him over Communist China.

We were not formally 'at war' with North Korea, the Soviet Union or Communist China at the time, but among the dead were Russian Pilots and many, many Chinese soldiers.

Most everyone now realizes that Korea and Vietnam were 'surrogate' wars, the US versus Russia and China.

Most understand also that the current war against Terror is a global conflict with Coalition Nations around the world combatting Islamic Terrorism and preventing them from instituting Muslim rule all over the planet.

You may not understand or appreciate the role of the United States in Global affairs, but many do and realize that we are the only major limiting force to the expansion of terror around the world.

This Administration, their domestic and foreign policy, is placing the entire world in jeopardy of another World War. If you don't understand that, study up on the attempts to appease Hitler and the failure to stop the advances of the Nazi's in Eastern Europe. The Allies had sufficient force available to stop Hitler and did not.

The Allies now, the 'Coalition' of willing Nations, have the ability to stop Islamic Fundamentalism from spreading and escalating into another global conflict.

Not that you comprehend, but some may.

Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

I agree with you that the Arsenal of Democracy was vital to purging the fascists and that America was directly threatened by them.

No, in Korea we were servicing the need of a Country, under the authority of the U.N. Korea had been under the heel of a brutal foreign power and had been separated by the stumbling of the major powers at the end of the war.

Korea was a example of a diplomatic misunderstanding that got out of hand because Kim Il Sung thought that America had it's hands full with Taiwan.

MacArthur was of an earlier age who looked at the atomic bomb as a good thing.

Korea also set us up for Viet Nam, again following the British example of avoiding the perfidy of the French to the Viet Namese people by reestablished French Colonial rule to insure French support for Britain's recovery of Burma and Singapore.

Actually America was on the side of the Viet Min during WW2. It is rumored that the Oss officers were murdered, in 1945 by French orders because they had wholly supported the Viet Min's bid for freedom.

John Foster Dulles you may recall at least tolerated the French but had little to do with Communists, and yet if America had been exporting it's ideals and not neo-colonialisim, JFD could have had tremendous influence in Southern China which he didn't by separating North and South Viet Nam.

Just as an aside; the history of the Douglas B/A-26, not the earlier Martin B-26. provides the reader with most of the dirty little wars, that the CIA and the post war governments have waged, however they did not get to Chile, nor Guyana, which shows the value of psyops and assassinations.

You make a silly mistake, Caterpillar, to take on all of Islam for a few thousand assholes. We should call this a War on Assholes, or Crazy People because they distort Islam and pervert it. If we publicly call them Assholes, it changes the whole force ratio. Use your head Amicus. Use your words.

The things I see you post makes me believe that you have completely forgotten the Pledge of Allegiance, “To the Republic for which it stands.” The Republic is our body of ideas about freedom for all men. That means you and I can believe different things and yet we do not advocate bombing whole neighborhoods because we disagree, we are civilized men and understand the collateral damage of such stupidity.

As civilized men we accept that we have no real power over the world, in every waddie and rice field. True we can effect a local area of a few hundred thousand square miles, but we are not the masters of the situation, it is out of our hands and the more we kill civilians, the longer we will be in those shit holes.

Forget the “Holy War” rhetoric and call them what they are, Assholes. Even the Republicans will have to agree and some of them are the biggest assholes of Corporatism in the world. Poetic Justice!

 

[amicus]

Interpreting, re-interpreting and revising history keeps a good man History Professors will full rice bowls and it seems you are no exception.

The Japanese had conquered much of Southeast Asia, including most of Mainland China and most of the European Colonial Nations had no heart for continued conflict, nor did they have the resources.

Now it is the Muslim population that is expanding throughout Africa, into Asia with open conflict in the Philippines. Not to mention a healthy minority of Muslims in Euro Nations that formerly held Colonies throughout the region.

Only die-hard mainline Communists deny that Communist expansion into Asia, threatening Australia and supply lines to Japan and the US, was stopped by South East Asian Treaty Organization (SEATO) Nations. Not only did the intervention bring the expansion of the Soviets to a half, it acted to bankrupt the Soviet Union in an ongoing Arms Race.

I wonder how you explain the global terrorist activities the world has suffered over the past thirty years...no, never mind, I have heard it all before.

The real point is that the Obama Administration is totally clueless concerning global power struggles and the impact of his withdrawal and appeasement policies thus far have made the world an even more dangerous place.

Amicus

 

[Dragonlipz]

Imagine a three year old who just had his toy truck taken away from him by his big sister...that's what Obama is now.

You're channeling your own experience where your sister kicked sand in your face, right?
You are such a punk!
Obama is more of a man than you could ever hope for.....

 

[Dragonlipz]

Interpreting, re-interpreting and revising history keeps a good man History Professors will full rice bowls and it seems you are no exception.

The Japanese had conquered much of Southeast Asia, including most of Mainland China and most of the European Colonial Nations had no heart for continued conflict, nor did they have the resources.

Now it is the Muslim population that is expanding throughout Africa, into Asia with open conflict in the Philippines. Not to mention a healthy minority of Muslims in Euro Nations that formerly held Colonies throughout the region.

Only die-hard mainline Communists deny that Communist expansion into Asia, threatening Australia and supply lines to Japan and the US, was stopped by South East Asian Treaty Organization (SEATO) Nations. Not only did the intervention bring the expansion of the Soviets to a half, it acted to bankrupt the Soviet Union in an ongoing Arms Race.

I wonder how you explain the global terrorist activities the world has suffered over the past thirty years...no, never mind, I have heard it all before.

The real point is that the Obama Administration is totally clueless concerning global power struggles and the impact of his withdrawal and appeasement policies thus far have made the world an even more dangerous place.

Amicus

Let's git our ammo and our guns and hide in the basement, right?
Geez, you fucks are so damn lame........
The only validation for your rants is if you were actually a citizen, patriot, and a veteran.....
Then you'd know how to handle yourself and the 'communist invasion'......your ranting and raving prove that you are none of the above....you just want everyone else to be afraid of "FILL IN THE BLANK".......
That's the 'Republican meme' right? Be afraid......of the niggers, of the commies, of anyone who isn't you? right?
You are such a lame brain.....you should stick with Dungeons and Dragons.....

 

[PoppingTom]

Hands down this will be the worst President and the worst set of policies, domestic and foreign, that this Nation has ever endured.

I believe America can do worse.

At least they have to do worse, in your opinion.

 

[cloudy]

Fucking hypocrites, just about every one of you.

When that numbnuts Republican jumped up and screamed "You lie!" at the man who holds the highest office this nation has, all you hypocrites could talk about was how wonderful he was, using his right to free speech, and on and on and on....

But wait! There's more!

Now you can't even remember there IS such a thing as free speech, and that it is a right ALL of us in the states hold, and want to get all puffed up like stupid fucking toads because "how dare Obama talk to the justices that way!"

Do any of you even remember what you say from one day to the next?

Oh, damn....he was getting uppity again wasn't he?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Obama needs SCOTUS to help him, and issues like same-sex marriage will come before SCOTUS. Or even the constitutional fitness of ObamaCare. So Obama didnt help his team when he called SCOTUS fucktards, and the Usual Suspects stood and applauded. He'll be sorry. No. You'll be sorry he showed his ass.

But Obama's indignation is a canard when you examine who the SCOTUS decision helps. It helps labor unions and special interest groups within the Usual Suspect camp....like trial lawyers and ACORN and the Sierra Club. Most corporations split their donations 50-50 cuz they dont want to piss-off either Party and get involved in the food fight. About 65% of the donations are expected to benefit Usual Suspects.

Obama's snit was contrived bull shit.

 

[Pure]

question for ami

ami //Obama Administration is totally clueless concerning global power struggles and the impact of his withdrawal and appeasement policies thus far have made the world an even more dangerous place.//

i realize ole Joe McCarthy lives in your heart, but who, exactly, has Obama apppeased in this first year.?

i remind you that the world was a pretty fucking dangerous place on Sept 10, 2001.**


**the rightwing 'line' (lie) is 'no attacks on the US occurred during Bush's time!\

 

[Boota]

I thought Obama nailed it. The Supreme Court has consistently sold us out to corporations, and they did it again. At least their majority did.

 

[Freefall_mc]

I agree Boota. To have a leader with courage, integrity, vision, and tenacity lay the invitation to participate in policy making on the table straight up...unprecedented and refreshing.
Full disclosure at its best.

I'm just concerned some people are still obsessing over what color jock straps everyone is wearing on Capitol Hill. Who freakin cares? It's the package that counts!
But then, one can't blame those attempting to conceal that they are sporting manufactured synthetic dicks. I'd rather have the lame ones hanging limp with their prune sized balls squeezed by the shackles of the far right.

Perhaps there's still time for them to get their red blood flowing. Wimpy moderates, come forward! Your party will not always be held captive by a few arrogant assholes, and your country needs you! History lasts far longer than your seat will anyway.

Just speaking as a citizen.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Current federal law -- legal eagles can find it at 2 U.S.C. 441e(b)(3) -- prevents "a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country" from making "directly or indirectly" a donation or expenditure "in connection with a Federal, State, or local election," to a political party committee or "for an electioneering communication."

There it is asshats. The section of existing law the court repealed. Justice Kennedy said the ruling does not apply to foreigners.

Unions, political organizations, professional groups, and corporations no longer have to cleanse their contributions via PACS.

 

[Freefall_mc]

Current federal law -- legal eagles can find it at 2 U.S.C. 441e(b)(3) -- prevents "a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country" from making "directly or indirectly" a donation or expenditure "in connection with a Federal, State, or local election," to a political party committee or "for an electioneering communication."

There it is asshats. The section of existing law the court repealed. Justice Kennedy said the ruling does not apply to foreigners.

Unions, political organizations, professional groups, and corporations no longer have to cleanse their contributions via PACS.

Thank you Jimmy. You just made me shudder again.
And what of those foreign interests involved in our corporations?
I should pull some public audits. I have soooo much time.