Unauthorised editing

[Writer61]

Our policy has always been to either publish a work as-is or send it back to the author if it doesn't fit our guidelines in any way.

That is good to know. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[BeechLeaf]

Thank you, Laurel. It's a huge relief to know it's not intentional, and that you're still looking out for us.

 

[StillStunned]

I get the feeling the intern is back on coffee duty.

Thanks for sharing, Laurel!

 

[Actingup]

Thank you to those who brought this to our attention.

We're sorry you're experiencing this issue. Our policy has always been to either publish a work as-is or send it back to the author if it doesn't fit our guidelines in any way. We would never edit an author's words except to remove spam. I'm not sure what happened, but I can assure you that beyond the fact that it against our policy, we are also lack the time needed to do that type of editing on the hundreds of stories posted daily.

A massive thank you for replying to the thread. A few public interventions go a long way.

 

[liliput1]

Confirming @BeechLeaf, I also see only up to part 8 on your Profile.

It does appear in a story search for "maddy on the move", with the New tag and publication date of today ... but does not appear in the New Stories list that I can find.

@Manu? @Laurel?

This is a known limitation of Lit and caching of pages. If you follow someone you get an alert when it publishes, the story is accessible from the alert but not yet from the Works page.

 

[jsmiam]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

 

[jsmiam]

And in case anyone’s wondering, that WAS my positive sounding version. ;-)

 

[ElectricBlue]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

That's unnecessary, the worst slam I've seen in a very long time. What does your comment contribute to what's gone on? Nothing that I can see.

 

[PennyThompson]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

Yeah, gee, I can't imagine why Laurel doesn't spend all of her time responding to Authors' Hangout posts, it would be such an edifying and productive experience to get this kind of reply to every single thing she posted

 

[Voboy]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

I don't necessarily disagree with your overall message, but I'm not sure it's helpful here, and I know it's not necessary to post it publicly. It's a virtue signal.

 

[Stanfield2025]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

I'm glad someone said it. All I'll add to it is a phrase from ASOIAF I constantly find to be relevant.

Words are wind.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

That's unnecessary, the worst slam I've seen in a very long time. What does your comment contribute to what's gone on? Nothing that I can see.

But it was necessary. If he hadn't said it, I would have. And his post was criticizing but reasonable and polite. It's good to see that there are people with sane reasoning here still.

It's a sad sign of the times that everyone's first reaction to Laurel's surprising post was to shower her with thanks and ass-kissing, after she made her first post in the AH in many, many months.

There was a time not so long ago when the forum was going completely nuts out of frustration because we didn't know what the hell was going on with submissions, and she never replied to that. Not a single sentence to let us know what's going on or to reassure us. People were editing, resubmitting, restarting their queues in frustration because they didn't know what to do, because no one was offering any guidance, any helpful information. But now she decides to post on this absolutely tiny issue where somehow "got" was changed to "gotten," and she's automatically the people's hero.

I don't know if you've noticed, but both Laurel and Manu seem to find the time to post on the forum when it's something that's important to THEM. We tagged them both a gazillion times on the issues we thought important, without any success. But yeah, now they supposedly reacted because AH-ers tagged them.

You know, the spine is a characteristic of more evolved species. I don't know why so many here prefer being an invertebrate.

 

[Stanfield2025]

But it was necessary. If he hadn't said it, I would have. And his post was criticizing but reasonable and polite. It's good to see that there are people with sane reasoning here still.

It's a sad sign of the times that everyone's first reaction to Laurel's surprising post is to shower her with thanks and ass-kissing, after she made her first post in the AH in many, many months.

There was a time not so long ago when the forum was going completely nuts out of frustration because we didn't know what the hell was going on with submissions, and she never replied to that. Not a single sentence to let us know what's going on or to reassure us. People were editing, resubmitting, restarting their queues in frustration because they didn't know what to do, because no one was offering any guidance, any helpful information. But now she decides to post on this absolutely tiny issue where somehow "got" was changed to "gotten," and she's automatically the people's hero.

I don't know if you've noticed, but both Laurel and Manu seem to find the time to post on the forum when it's something that's important to THEM. We tagged them both a gazillion times on the issues we thought important, without any success. But yeah, now they supposedly reacted because AH-ers tagged them.

You know, the spine is a characteristic of more evolved species. I don't know why so many here prefer being an invertebrate.

Took the words right outta my mouth. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've not been affected by any of the relevant issues, but the fact that so many people have is enough for me to have these feelings.

 

[liliput1]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

I'm having trouble imagining what scenario would result in accidental edits on the staff's end or some sort of auto-correct-on-save issue on the author's end without noticing it.

The work involved continues to increase. Lit is a labor of love, so we are happy that it continues to grow

The whole vibe here is of a Red Queen Problem - running faster and faster just to keep in the same spot. The current spam problem is, I surmise, part of that.

One of the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People is 'sharpen your saw'. Really you could probably dump some of the others and just keep this one.

As a neurodivergent person I struggle to even start tasks that piss me off, and the way I cope is that I invest some energy into making the task less obnoxious every time I do it. The fact that I'm moving the needle helps motivate me to keep going, and reduces the pain, because now I know it's transitory rather than the level of Hell I get to inhabit. At first that makes me fall behind, from the Red Queen perspective, but months or a few seasons in I'm pulling ahead, and then people start getting curious. This place is a marathon not a sprint. Make the old tasks easier to make space for the new ones that always show up.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I’ll try hard to make this sound positive, @Laurel

The tiniest shred of open communication caused an outpouring (13 likes and counting) of supportiveness, after years and years of what’s basically inexcusable silence and arrogance from you.

I’d call it undeserved supportiveness, but you got it nonetheless. How about a re-evaluation of your ways, and make that reply the new norm?

@Laurel replied to this thread May 17th

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-support-thread.1642536/page-8#post-102917828

 

[Britva415]

Welp, you heard it from the horse's mouth. Bug reports supposedly get through. So report bugs when shit happens. Each and every time.

Including occurrences of the permanently-pending bug.

Also: Once again, a statement about what not to do if a story is not moving through the queue fails to say what TO do when it has exceeded the pending time guideline. If it has been more than fifteen days, then submit a bug, AND delete and resubmit the story with a Note stating that it was permanently pending and is being resubmitted as a result.

 

[jsmiam]

Obviously I touched a nerve. But 13 or more likes (I haven’t rechecked the count), beats three and a half (and perhaps counting too) negatives. It’s a win! Hopefully it felt good.

I certainly didn’t shy away from the negatives, but I also acknowledged how many people welcomed the communique, and encouraged more, more, more.

These are not unreasonable things to want.

 

[Britva415]

Obviously I touched a nerve. But 13 or more likes (I haven’t rechecked the count), beats three and a half (and perhaps counting too) negatives. It’s a win! Hopefully it felt good.

I certainly didn’t shy away from the negatives, but I also acknowledged how many people welcomed the communique, and encouraged more, more, more.

These are not unreasonable things to want.

Especially when management simply refuses to talk about things we know they're getting @'ed, PM'd, emailed and otherwise notified about with great frequency. Just for one example, with the really half-assed way they reacted to the permanently-pending situation was so inadequate, it's no wonder some people are expressing no-confidence and others are cheering the least little appearance.

 

[LissyW]

Thank you to those who brought this to our attention.

We're sorry you're experiencing this issue. Our policy has always been to either publish a work as-is or send it back to the author if it doesn't fit our guidelines in any way. We would never edit an author's words except to remove spam. I'm not sure what happened, but I can assure you that beyond the fact that it against our policy, we are also lack the time needed to do that type of editing on the hundreds of stories posted daily.

We do not check the forums often and are likely to miss a thread like this unless (as in this case) other AHers bring it to our attention. In the future please contact us directly here or use the REPORT feature on the story page to bring issues to our attention. Do know that we are a small team, so do allow time for us to research the issue and get back to you.

Please send your tech support issues and bug reports here.

If your story is not moving in the queue, we are likely putting it aside because it needs special handling or a more thorough look-through. Please do not remove it or hit SUBMIT as that will delay it further.

Edits are far behind at the moment. We are working hard to try to get them caught up so that they are back to being processed within a few days of submission.

If anyone has any specific issues, please contact me rather than replying to this post.

Also, generally - as much as we'd like to be able to follow all the threads here and address every issue brought up, it is impossible for us to do so and keep the growing number of stories posted in a timely manner (as best we can), try to get caught up on edits and other story-related tasks, work on new features and improve old ones, and deal with all the issues involved in running Lit.

We work on Lit every day and have for nearly thirty years (time sure flies!). The work involved continues to increase. Lit is a labor of love, so we are happy that it continues to grow - but it does mean that we do not have the time to respond to posts on the forum or messages sent to us as often as some might like. Do know this does not mean we don't care - quite the opposite. Lit is a huge part of our life and we are doing the best we can to keep the site running and improving.

We appreciate your patience and again thank you for all for sharing your work with Lit readers!

Laurel, thank you for responding, and for confirming that this is against Literotica policy. If i understood your response correctly, you are still investigating this issue.

I did both of the things you suggest (direct contact and use of the report feature) as well as posting here.

I hope you can find the cause of this issue, which is a real showstopper for me, and provide an assurance that this will not happen again.

I'd appreciate it if you could keep me informed of progress. You have my email address.

Lissy

 

[LissyW]

But it was necessary. If he hadn't said it, I would have. And his post was criticizing but reasonable and polite. It's good to see that there are people with sane reasoning here still.

It's a sad sign of the times that everyone's first reaction to Laurel's surprising post was to shower her with thanks and ass-kissing, after she made her first post in the AH in many, many months.

There was a time not so long ago when the forum was going completely nuts out of frustration because we didn't know what the hell was going on with submissions, and she never replied to that. Not a single sentence to let us know what's going on or to reassure us. People were editing, resubmitting, restarting their queues in frustration because they didn't know what to do, because no one was offering any guidance, any helpful information. But now she decides to post on this absolutely tiny issue where somehow "got" was changed to "gotten," and she's automatically the people's hero.

I don't know if you've noticed, but both Laurel and Manu seem to find the time to post on the forum when it's something that's important to THEM. We tagged them both a gazillion times on the issues we thought important, without any success. But yeah, now they supposedly reacted because AH-ers tagged them.

You know, the spine is a characteristic of more evolved species. I don't know why so many here prefer being an invertebrate.

Just one point I have to make: It's not an "absolutely tiny issue." An author's text being interfered with after submission is a huge issue.

 

[THBGato]

I wonder how many of those firing shots at Laurel here have much experience of managing up? (You know, when you need something from those above you in the hierarchy that they can't see is important so you need to carefully pitch it to them and make them see the benefit.)

Calling them arrogant isn't usually a good opening move...

Except, my own analogy breaks down because:
a) you don't work for Laurel
b) she doesn't work for you
c) you're not even a paying customer she needs to keep sweet

So you may be absolutely right in your views and be fully justified in holding them/posting them. It still wasn't helpful and I imagine whatever catharsis you felt quickly faded. We need Laurel to engage with us, collectively and individually, and attacking her on the rare occasion she does pop into the forum is just going to discourage her from doing so.

She doesn't need any of us as individuals; but we all need her.

If that's being spineless, fine. I think it's more recognising reality and trying not to burn bridges or piss off the captain.