Unacceptable

[jaF0]

This entire situation.

70 + Million assholes voted for the orange demon of hate and division?

 

[YDB95]

I'm really hoping to find some plausible explanation beyond "they're all a bunch of racists". But so far, I can't.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

For a lot, yes.

but he also gained in blacks and latinos, particularly males. I can't see any explanation for that than being attracted to his faux strongman bullshit.

I'm really hoping to find some plausible explanation beyond "they're all a bunch of racists". But so far, I can't.

 

[allison22]

I'm really hoping to find some plausible explanation beyond "they're all a bunch of racists". But so far, I can't.

America has a long history of racism.

After the Civil War, do you think all the white people who owned slaves just said, "Slavery was wrong?"

Do you think they suddenly started treating black people like human beings?

NO! They got shotguns and hunting rifles and torches and burned down the homes of black people! They chased entire families of black people out of town! They killed black soldiers who served in the Union army!

That was over 100 years ago, but we still have white sheriffs and white police officers killing unarmed black people, arresting black people who are utterly innocent of any crime and white judges sending black people to jail for 50 years when there's absolutely no evidence that they've committed any crime.

Dylan Roof was a white guy who killed a church full of black people, and he was brought in alive. The cops even took him to Burger King and bought him a meal before he was taken to prison.

Tamir Rice was a 12-year old black kid who was playing with a toy gun on the playground. The police didn't talk to Tamir Rice. They didn't attempt to arrest Tamir Rice. They didn't ask Tamir Rice to place his toy gun on the ground, they just shot him dead a second after they finished parking their car.

There are literally THOUSANDS of stories of institutionalized racism in America.

I live in America, I've lived my whole life in America, so it's sad to admit this, but there are MILLIONS of racists in this country, and they love the fact that Trump is validating and encouraging their racism! Trump is like the Messiah to them!!

 

[coati]

For a lot, yes.

but he also gained in blacks and latinos, particularly males. I can't see any explanation for that than being attracted to his faux strongman bullshit.

There is a racism factor, but there is also a more encompassing empathy factor, meaning empathy for humanity in the long run.

I live in the heart of multiculturalism, and I regularly work on construction projects with native Americans and Latinos and on educational efforts with black people. Racism is not restricted to whites. The statements I have heard about other races and ethnicities have been disturbing enough to cause insomnia when I wake up in the middle of the night and remember them.

This has to do with a much bigger problem, selfishness and the lack of empathy, a human species characteristic that is always lurking in the reptilian portion of the human brain, ready to be exploited by politicians and cult leaders.

In the case of Trump, he exploits this selfish human tendency to make short-term economic gains at the expense of future generations, and to pit one ethnic group against another in order to distract people from the fact that they are trashing the physical and social environment, the very thing that sustains human populations beyond our own lifetimes.

It's like taking a hit of speed or cocaine, and saying, "It must be great, because I feel so good right now", while simultaneously destroying your body as you repetitively do this.

Any fool can goose the fickle short-term economy by destroying the body, but what is humanity left with in the long run? As a species with the ability to extrapolate trends into the future, we have a choice.

 

[RevoltingBlue2]

This entire situation.

70 + Million assholes voted for the orange demon of hate and division?

Is this

not divisive
on the face of it?

sounds more like
bitter loser

talk​

 

[RevoltingBlue2]

in a world
of limited resource

differentiation and discrimination
will

always exist



he was a man of

discriminating taste​

 

[adrina]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Since the republicans and conservatives have been spoon fed propaganda - which they gladly take in - that democrats and liberals are evil, this is what we get.

There are entire swaths of the population that think a murdering, lying, cheating, corrupt republican is better than an honest and lawful democrat.

(And set the timer for the first conservative/republican to post in response that there are no honest and lawful democrats.)

 

[nowisthetime]

For a lot, yes.

but he also gained in blacks and latinos, particularly males. I can't see any explanation for that than being attracted to his faux strongman bullshit.

Unfortunately, the thought of a woman VP scares some of them. Misogyny knows no race. It could also be the BS spread by the Russian trolls about Kamala locking up black men, when folks forget that these men she locked up just happened to be violent criminals. We should let violent criminals walk because they are black men?

Dump has been targeting black men in ads (he knows black women won't buy his bullshit) even though he hates black people.

People now also understand that Latinos aren't a monolith. They have diverse viewpoints like everyone else.

Still, the vast majority of black people, Asians,Latinos and educated white people who are smart enough to spot a conman supported Biden and that's what matters.

More people supported Biden, there are more of us who despise the gasbag.

He lost the popular vote TWICE and he is a one termer. I look at the situation that way.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The answer is that he tells the lies that people want to hear.

 

[NickBarn89]

The answer is that he tells the lies that people want to hear.

Isn't that how you know that Joe Biden is a polished politician.
How rich is his family getting off of his good name and status?

 

[nowisthetime]

He awakened the nasty people who normally sit out presidential elections, these folks like that authoritarian BS that we have never seen before in modern presidency. There are more of them than once thought. So you have the racists, some grifters(most of his supporters are uneducated and not rich), the misogynists, the religious fundies coming out in droves for him. Fine people.



But guess what, there are still more of us who can spot a conman than not. That's why he will be a one termer, losing the popular vote not once but twice. A nation cannot sustain itself on hatred and incompetence.

Cheers to the real Americans who still love democracy! We are the patriots. Look at it that way!

 

[Veroe]

Doesn't seem that baffling to me. Just look at it from the perspective of the African American voters. Donald Trump has said some very racist shit, but Biden's the author of the Crime Bill that has disproportionate number of black men locked away in prisons across america for non-violent drug offenses, Biden's bragged in the past how he was against bussing and how he was buddy buddy with segregationist senators. From their perspective either way they were voting for an old white racist. At least with Trump they could vote for the one that is up front and honest about being a racist.

 

[sally_sparrow]

For a lot, yes.

but he also gained in blacks and latinos, particularly males. I can't see any explanation for that than being attracted to his faux strongman bullshit.

This is only one instance that I've heard, but a friend of mine who is Latino and whose parents immigrated from Mexico legally: They are strong Trump supporters because they don't support illegal immigration since they immigrated legally.

I'm not trying to say it's a good reason at all, but apparently that is their family's reason to support him.

They're wrong of course

 

[NickBarn89]

Trump, for not being a Republican (he never was, he's an opportunist) made inroads into all sorts of traditional Democrat demographics. What I wonder is, now that he is being ushered out, are the Republicans even a little bit competent to maintain those gains?

 

[NickBarn89]

Doesn't seem that baffling to me. Just look at it from the perspective of the African American voters. Donald Trump has said some very racist shit, but Biden's the author of the Crime Bill that has disproportionate number of black men locked away in prisons across america for non-violent drug offenses, Biden's bragged in the past how he was against bussing and how he was buddy buddy with segregationist senators. From their perspective either way they were voting for an old white racist. At least with Trump they could vote for the one that is up front and honest about being a racist.

I don't know why no one remembers this, but Biden has said Racist shit, and I'm not talking about the past, but in the last few years.


Think donuts and if you don't vote for me...

 

[nowisthetime]

Doesn't seem that baffling to me. Just look at it from the perspective of the African American voters. Donald Trump has said some very racist shit, but Biden's the author of the Crime Bill that has disproportionate number of black men locked away in prisons across america for non-violent drug offenses, Biden's bragged in the past how he was against bussing and how he was buddy buddy with segregationist senators. From their perspective either way they were voting for an old white racist. At least with Trump they could vote for the one that is up front and honest about being a racist.

Trump has denied people housing on the basis of skin color, his father was arrested in a Klan riot. That man was as racist as they come and still racist to this day. He is a racist and misogynistic conman.


This is why I am strong proponent of improving civics education. Back in the 1980s through early 90s, crime rates across America were at an all time high. What was Biden to do? He had to look tough on crime, because God knows those Repugs are always deeming Dems as "softies". Hypocritical pieces of fecal matter.


Still the vast majority of black voters could see through conman's bullshit and supported Biden. They knew what is at stake for the country, something rural white dunces (cough...Kentucky) could not seem to grasp. What kind of people vote against their best interests? Vindictive people who wish to punish folks they despise.

 

[Veroe]

Trump, for not being a Republican (he never was, he's an opportunist) made inroads into all sorts of traditional Democrat demographics. What I wonder is, now that he is being ushered out, are the Republicans even a little bit competent to maintain those gains?

Good question. I would say no. Republicans' strength has always been playing to their base's wants and desires (Something I wish the democrats would learn from) what they want and what these new voters want are too different to keep them in the tent for too much longer. Most other republicans not named Trump won't know how to straddle that fence to placate both the base and these new voters.

 

[pointless]

i wouldn't be surprised if some desperate fools voted for him because they desperately hoped he'd come through on the stimulus bribe offer.

 

[NickBarn89]

i wouldn't be surprised if some desperate fools voted for him because they desperately hoped he'd come through on the stimulus bribe offer.

That's up to the Congress. Republicans made gains in the House which is the keeper of the peoples' purse.

 

[pointless]

dude, fuck off. you know exactly what i'm talking about and pretending otherwise just makes you look foolish.

 

[BrokenBarbie]

Post-election there’s little to no political capital to be gained from a stimulus package.

Don’t hold your breath on it.

 

[NickBarn89]

Good question. I would say no. Republicans' strength has always been playing to their base's wants and desires (Something I wish the democrats would learn from) what they want and what these new voters want are too different to keep them in the tent for too much longer. Most other republicans not named Trump won't know how to straddle that fence to placate both the base and these new voters.

Once the dam is breached, you cannot put the water back in. I view it as more than a positive when people stop voting for the party of their race and vote the party of their best interests. What it signals to me is a demographic shift as many minorities achieve upward mobility and, like the rapper, suddenly realize, I worked very hard for this, why do you want to take so much of it?

 

[NickBarn89]

Post-election there’s little to no political capital to be gained from a stimulus package.

Don’t hold your breath on it.

I never wanted it, I hope it doesn't happen. We're already ignoring the debt that we have incurred during normal times...

 

[phrodeau]

Post-election there’s little to no political capital to be gained from a stimulus package.

Don’t hold your breath on it.

Political capital is the currency between factions in government, not between electors and elected.