UC Berkeley SJW Meltdown Over Exam

[GiaCat]

Oh, geez I don't need to say anything. It's speak for itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZKRz1QXtC4

 

[Boxlicker101]

Oh, geez I don't need to say anything. It's speak for itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZKRz1QXtC4

Some, not all, of those students at UC Berkeley are there strictly because of Affirmative Action. And now they're asking for more special treatment?

 

[GiaCat]

I am sure that are some. This smells like dodge to get out of a hard class.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I am sure that are some. This smells like dodge to get out of a hard class.

I wish that's ALL it was. It was far worse. It was learning that which most institutions of "higher learning" are teaching these days.

Call it "prick privilege." How to be a prick simply because you are (apparently) entitled to a sense of "injustice" about virtually anything simply because you are a minority.

This wasn't even about whatever substance there may be in Black Lives Matter, police brutality or even racism generally. It was just about something as fundamentally reasonable as a test of whatever academic knowledge had been obtained in a class that the students signed up for. You would think that that would be what the students would WANT -- an honest measure of what they had accomplished so far. It's what "they" (or their parents or scholarships) are paying for.

Of course, they could scam a dishonest and gratuitously favorable evaluation and even (if you leverage the scam long enough) an ultimately dishonest degree in hopes of a scammed professional career. And why not? If that is what you are being "taught" is possible.

But if they don't LEARN to demand better for themselves, they deserve to have that eventually come back and bite them in the ass.

 

[ChadwickDMoss]

I think we should make all courses pass-pass, not take attendance and start treating those with modern degrees with the respect they have actually earned. A GED is now a more honest barometer of merit than a degree in the Arts/Humanities.

 

[GiaCat]

Yes, it seems that people don't want to work for things and demand that 'mediocre' be accepted as a kind of achievement. I got my Master in Engineering degree a few years ago. I finished with a 3.8\4.0 gpa. I earned it with determination and hard work. If some schmuck comes along and demand he be just given the same degree for doing nothing would be very unfair.

 

[dontbackdown]

Yes, it seems that people don't want to work for things and demand that 'mediocre' be accepted as a kind of achievement. I got my Master in Engineering degree a few years ago. I finished with a 3.8\4.0 gpa. I earned it with determination and hard work. If some schmuck comes along and demand he be just given the same degree for doing nothing would be very unfair.

There is underlying premise, actually two, one of which the young lady commentator identified. The first being that 'minorities' are unable to achieve their goals because of their 'race.' (I put race in quotes in that it seems that some minorities believe themselves to be a race apart because of their cultural background.) Thinking that through are they arguing that they aren't up to the curriculum? Would it be acceptable if, in this case, a Hispanic professor gave them the exam? If not, why not? And if so, exactly who's the racist?

The next premise is the ultimate extension of their demands. "I PAID for this course therefore I should get the product (a diploma I presume) I paid for." If education is nothing more than a consumer product why bother to having to attend courses at all? Write your check, get the diploma.

Apparently they don't get the notion that what they are paying for is the access to knowledge and they are being assessed on the degree to which they absorbed that knowledge.

I wonder if the professor failed their asses?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yes, it seems that people don't want to work for things and demand that 'mediocre' be accepted as a kind of achievement. I got my Master in Engineering degree a few years ago. I finished with a 3.8\4.0 gpa. I earned it with determination and hard work. If some schmuck comes along and demand he be just given the same degree for doing nothing would be very unfair.

Does it occur to you that you are enjoying some kind of white privilege?

 

[GiaCat]

Does it occur to you that you are enjoying some kind of white privilege?

I keep wondering where I need to go to apply for that. I assume I need some kind of membership card or secret decoder ring or something.

 

[nowisthetime]

Some, not all, of those students at UC Berkeley are there strictly because of Affirmative Action. And now they're asking for more special treatment?

Just stop pussyfooting and say it, Boxlicker. You know you want to say those niggers got there and took over a qualified white man's spot. That's what you rightists like to spew as if your delusional minds are superior.

Lol, the good Ol' boys club is the biggest AA system. You are hilarious.

There are so many undeserving, mediocre white men who got into positions based on their skin color alone and not merits.

Stop projecting. The playing field is not even, it was only since 1965 that black Americans received decent treatment. And please do not compare the immigrant experience to that of African Americans, it is not the same.

A black person has to work twice as hard to get half of what a white man gets. This was told to me by an uncle, and he was right.

Like I said, I know most of you old posters are so goddamn clueless. I know that I'm outnumbered by the bigots in here but I don't care. You rightists are wonderful at gaslighting.

 

[BotanyBoy]

A black person has to work twice as hard to get half of what a white man gets. This was told to me by an uncle, and he was right.

LOL what a bunch of racist bullshit......

 

[OldJourno]

Oh, geez I don't need to say anything. It's speak for itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZKRz1QXtC4

Has the girl who made the video been expelled yet?
And I ask you, if a white student did join the protest, would that be considered cultural appropriation?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by nowisthetime View Post

A black person has to work twice as hard to get half of what a white man gets. This was told to me by an uncle, and he was right.

LOL what a bunch of racist bullshit......

Her uncle may have had a point 60 years ago, especially in the Democrat-controlled South, but that's no longer the case.

 

[toeskr]

Just stop pussyfooting and say it, Boxlicker. You know you want to say those niggers got there and took over a qualified white man's spot. That's what you rightists like to spew as if your delusional minds are superior.

Lol, the good Ol' boys club is the biggest AA system. You are hilarious.

There are so many undeserving, mediocre white men who got into positions based on their skin color alone and not merits.

Stop projecting. The playing field is not even, it was only since 1965 that black Americans received decent treatment. And please do not compare the immigrant experience to that of African Americans, it is not the same.

A black person has to work twice as hard to get half of what a white man gets. This was told to me by an uncle, and he was right.

Like I said, I know most of you old posters are so goddamn clueless. I know that I'm outnumbered by the bigots in here but I don't care. You rightists are wonderful at gaslighting.

"This was told to me to me by an Uncle", good fucking shit and a big LOL.

 

[Saint Peter]

damn!

I should have been out drinking instead of studying for the exam.

 

[Hypoxia]

In a recent study, a team sent groups of cloned resumes to HR departments at several corporations.

Half the resumes bore 'white' names; the other half, 'black' names.

White resumes had 80% callbacks.

Black resumes had 10% callbacks.

No, race isn't a problem in USA.

But perception of race is.

 

[dontbackdown]

In a recent study, a team sent groups of cloned resumes to HR departments at several corporations.

Half the resumes bore 'white' names; the other half, 'black' names.

White resumes had 80% callbacks.

Black resumes had 10% callbacks.

No, race isn't a problem in USA.

But perception of race is.

That study isn't all that recent. It goes back to the late '90's. But the results were as you said.

My thoughts on the subject are mixed. First off there is a correlation between "Africanized" names and problem workers. The study you refer to does't give a full picture of what is happening on the street. Employers keep records and statistics too you know?

Starting in the mid to late 70's it was a fad in the black community to give their kids Africanized names. Often made up and just as often misspelled. A rejection of "slave" names if you will. Quite frankly I think the parents were jerks for doing so and it's a shame that the sins of the parents ended up being visited on the child. But that doesn't change the records/statistics that the employers keep.

 

[Que]

No, the results were not nearly what he said. First of all it only applied to newspaper ads which are completely blind appeals for applicants. Generally skews towards lower number of employees businesses where unit cohesion is important. Second, there was a 1/3 increase in callbacks, not 80%. Third it says nothing at all about who gets actually hired.

The names were Lakisa and Jamal versus Greg and Emily. Perception of educational and class status is far more suspect here than any other reason.

An actual reasonably controlled recent study with all reasonable first names and obvious common black white and Hispanic last names based on actual census information show that there was absolutely no difference.

The left will be trotting that study out a hundred fifty years from now along with the Fox News viewers are stupid study. There is no academic discipline in academia.

 

[jomar]

The professor did a good job. Probably wanted to bitch slap them out the door.

 

[nowisthetime]

We must not forget, white women massively benefit from affirmative action as well due to gender and racists feel comfortable hiring them for obvious reasons, but the venom by rightists seems to always be spewed towards non whites.

We would have no need for affirmative action if discrimination wasn't rampant. Check yourselves, rightists. We didn't start the fire.

Many (not all) white males are bred to be cocky and tend to overestimate their abilities.

 

[DrDelirium]

It seems to me that there is a perfectly reasonable argument to be made for the principle of Affirmative Action in terms of ameliorating the disadvantages that people of color generally suffer from in the US. However, it's true that the fundamental problem in the US is class, and race has largely been a marker for the lowest, least educated class. The fact that the current form of Affirmative Action doesn't address this makes it racially divisive, since there are millions of white Americans who also suffer the disadvantages of generational poverty and crappy schools. As someone living in one of the whitest states in the US, I promise you that a good work ethic is not something handed out to white babies at birth, either.
The people who designed Affirmative Action had no intention of addressing class issues in the US, so they gave various 'compensatory' advantages to people based on color (without reference to class or educational background) which simply attacked the privileges of low-privilege whites by increasing, and distorting, the competitive, exploitive structure that already had so many of them in or near poverty.
If the designers of Affirmative Action were really interested in black success, let alone 'equality,' they would have built programs that directly put disadvantaged minorities on an equal footing in terms of skills and education before putting them in competition for jobs- but that would have been too much like 'socialism.' Instead they used minorities to drive a wedge between poor and working class people of different colors. Worked like a charm, too. If we judge AA by its stated goals, it's a mess, but if we look at it as a tool to break the labor movement, it's a rousing success.

 

[BotanyBoy]

In a recent study, a team sent groups of cloned resumes to HR departments at several corporations.

Half the resumes bore 'white' names; the other half, 'black' names.

White resumes had 80% callbacks.

Black resumes had 10% callbacks.

No, race isn't a problem in USA.

But perception of race is.

That leaves 3 realistic options.

1) The left can keep trying to use the government to beat the prejudices out of peoples hearts. Punishing white folks for being white because whiteness is racism which is privilege!!!

LOL good luck with that.

2) Black people can stop naming their kids shit so crazy the even the Asian FOBz and strippers are laughing.

3) People who are truly concerned about this can organize together and help the black community out.....hire an all black staff.

We must not forget, white women massively benefit from affirmative action as well due to gender and racists feel comfortable hiring them for obvious reasons, but the venom by rightists seems to always be spewed towards non whites.

We would have no need for affirmative action if discrimination wasn't rampant. Check yourselves, rightists. We didn't start the fire.

Many (not all) white males are bred to be cocky and tend to overestimate their abilities.

There is no need for institutionalized racism of any kind at all.

Confidence is the mindset of success.

If you don't think you can ever get out of the trailer park, you never will.

 

[Que]

We must not forget, white women massively benefit from affirmative action as well due to gender and racists feel comfortable hiring them for obvious reasons, but the venom by rightists seems to always be spewed towards non whites.

We would have no need for affirmative action if discrimination wasn't rampant. Check yourselves, rightists. We didn't start the fire.

Many (not all) white males are bred to be cocky and tend to overestimate their abilities.

Oh? Tell me about the personality characteristics "bred" into (part) black females.

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

There is no academic discipline in academia.

Spoken like someone who washed out of college and is now a bitter and regretful door-to-door salesman.

 

[Hypoxia]

Spoken like someone who washed out of college and is now a bitter and regretful door-to-door salesman.

Business colleges are academic. Shut-em down.
Law and med schools are academic. Shut-em down.
Science colleges are academic. Shut-em down.

Shut down all colleges except those teaching mechanics, cosmetology, and big-stadium team sports that draw huge TV contracts. The rest are all faggoty.

Of course gov't should support seminaries, bible colleges, and madrassahs. Students can learn to heal, build, invest, and shoot via prayer. If your prefrontal lobe needs tending, who you gonna see? Some stuck-up over-schooled surgeon, or a holy man who'll put his hands on your head and an icepick up your nose?