Two questions... (please help)

[Guest]

Okay, I'm kind of young, but pretty experienced, and I've been trying my hand at erotic literature for about a year and a half now. But I've run into a few problems.
Number one, all my stories seem to end up about the same thing. I'm really trying hard to change the characters, setting, even the whole subject. I've even tried changing the levels of control. But it just seems they always turn out the same way. The same touches in foreplay, the same kind of climax, even some of the same positions. So basically I'm just looking for some advice as to how to get around this little problem...
Number two, the climax is definitely always the same. I think this one may have to do with my age and a limited amount of orgasms (with said partner), but I'm having trouble in describing different kinds of the big o. I hate being about cliches and I'm trying to avoid them. So, aside from actually going out and experimenting with lots of people to get the feelings into words, any thoughts on what I should do?
Any help you can give would be a great help. Thanx.

 

[ronde]

Maybe some of this will help.

Try writing characters who resemble people you know or have at least talked with for a while. Everyone has a different personality and background, and these things dictate how we approach the world. When you're writing, ask yourself how this person would react to the situation that defines the story or scene. Maybe they have a hidden side that they would show only under the circumstances of your story.

Story lines can be difficult if you try to write everything from your own experience. Always be observant of other people, and question yourself about what motives they may have for the things they do. There's a bench outside the Victoria's Secret at our local mall. While my better half is shopping, I sit and watch who goes in. It's surprising how many women shop there who look like it's the last place they'd ever be. I wonder what they buy, and why? Occasionally, a man goes in by himself. Is this a gift for his partner, or...

I was in a bar one night, and two women were having a quiet, but obviously heated discussion. It ended when one threw her glass on the floor and stormed out. I wondered what had happened between them to cause such a scene. They had come in together, but the one who stayed had been attracting guys since they sat down, and the glass thrower hadn't.

Do you see where I'm going? Take a small event and build it into a story.

As for descriptions of foreplay and all that really great stuff that follows, that's a problem for me too. It's difficult because no matter how you do it, it's pretty much the same. There are some differences in intensity, but a rose is still a rose. While you're having all those really great feelings, try to stay aware of what your partner is doing and saying. That's always a good thing anyway, but it may help you to understand the feelings you're causing. Another method, as uninspired as it may be, is to ask your partner what feelings they have and what they like (also always a good thing). If you're really brave, and don't mind some odd looks, ask your friends. You already know what you like and feel. Variation in descriptions could be sequence, active and passive partner's viewpoints, and creative wordsmithing. While the research would probably be interesting, I wouldn't recommend bed hopping.

Hope this helps.

 

[Whispersecret]

Hiya!

My best suggestion is to try to focus more on the characters and their feelings and less on the physical actions they're performing. So often novices write a sex scene that reads like a play-by-play.

She took off her shirt and pulled down the bra exposing her tits, but left enough of it to hold them up a little. I started to kiss her mouth and move my hand a few inches from her nipples. As I was closing on her nipples with my hands, my kisses went down to her neck, lower and lower. I delicately played with her cunt for a while.

See what I mean?

Instead, intersperse the action with REACTION. I think it ups the hot factor when you describe what the partner is feeling, doing, saying in response to the action.

Include all five senses. Talk about what his cock smells like, the texture of her nipples, the taste of his mouth, the sound of her moans.

Be sure to think about the specific characters you are writing about. Each character is bound to be unique, so capitalize on that. If your "hero" is a hard-nosed cop who likes to dominate his women, his sexual technique is going to reflect that. You'll want to use forceful verbs and perhaps short, direct sentences. Or perhaps you have a husband who's dallying with the babysitter when he drives her home. His approach is going to be furtive. He's going to be motivated by urgency because his wife is expecting him home soon. He'll probably have guilt too. Work all of that in and the mundane actions will take on a different color.

Writing sex scenes in a fresh way is ALWAYS challenging. I find it more and more challenging as I get more sex scenes under my belt. Describing orgasm is probably the most difficult. Still, I think if you try some of my suggestions, you might find it a little easier.

Hope this helps!

 

[Weird Harold]

Number one, all my stories seem to end up about the same thing. I'm really trying hard to change the characters, setting, even the whole subject. I've even tried changing the levels of control. But it just seems they always turn out the same way.
...
Number two, the climax is definitely always the same. I think this one may have to do with my age and a limited amount of orgasms (with said partner), but I'm having trouble in describing different kinds of the big o.

Try plotting a story out that doesn't allow for the same characters, setting, sex, etc.

Do a historical piece from a time when attittudes, ettquette, and facilities are different from what your previous stories had.

Do an outdoor adventure story, or invent a new toy for your characters to learn how to use.

Stretch your imagination and do some research on different times and places. You might even try your hand at a mystery, or science fiction parody to get you out of your rut.

Not everyone experiences orgasms the same. Try an Earth, Air, Fire, Water rotation in your stories.

Describe your orgasm in "earthy terms" -- tremors, quakes, landlisdes, etc in one story.

Use "Airy Terms" in the next story -- Breezes, tornadoes, hurricanes, Gusts, and calms, etc.

Follow with a story that uses "Fiery terms" -- burning pasions, conflagrations consuming the senses, Rising flames of desire, etc.

Wrap up the cycle with "Watery terms" -- waves, tsunamis, currents, floods, etc.

Repeat the cycle or move on to other "themes" for your descriptive phrases as they occur to you.

Forcing yourself to follow a "theme" for a given story will (hopefully) expand your descriptive abilities enough to make the "same orgasm" seem different even if it's not.

 

[Coolville]

if you're stuck with the same characters, try an old screenwriting trick.

take an old story and change the characters around. Just change all the 'he's' to 'she's' and vice versa. Change Bob to Susan and vice versa. Change the body parts to match, too, of course...

Then have a read and see how it comes out. More often and not, it's interesting.

 

[Guest]

wow

Much thanks to all of you guys. I definitely think these suggestions are going to help, a lot. Now I just have to find the time to work with them all! Seriously though, all the advice was greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Michael

 

[PetaTenna]

Do you have to describe the foreplay, the positions, and the orgasm in great detail?

Meetings, looks, touches, words, laughter, misunderstandings, smiles, tears, can be equally erotic. It's nice to have sexual intercourse in the story as well -- I'm not saying write "soft" romance --, but that alone doesn't make a story.

Stories should also have dinner plates, bus stops, trees, TV programmes, hills to walk up, breezes that get stronger, eccentric men talking in the street, naughty children, the mew of seagulls, distant jackhammers, chalk rubbed off jackets, fumbling in pockets for change, ... There's a whole world out there, and sucking and penetration are only a small part of love and desire.

 

[NoJo]

Michael, I don't know what you mean by"experienced". If you mean you're sexually experienced, or have written and read a lot, then that may not help as much as being experienced in understanding all the different kinds of things human beings get up to.
My favourite writers seem to be able to empathise with a variety of different types of people. I think the trick is to be curious about what makes people "tick." On this site, I think ronde can do this really well. Besides his stories being erotica, you also feel like you're getting some kind of knowledge about different people.

 

[SexyChele]

Just so all the authors here are aware - booboo_c is only 16 years old. Do we really need to be giving advice to some one who is too young to be on this board?

Think about it, folks.

Unless you want to encourage the minors?

 

[Guest]

Read the top rated stories. See what successful authors do. No, don't copy their style. You couldn't anyway. But imitate. Then post a few and learn from unkind feedback.

Believe me, we have all been there.

 

[SexyChele]

Read the top rated stories. See what successful authors do. No, don't copy their style. You couldn't anyway. But imitate. Then post a few and learn from unkind feedback.

Believe me, we have all been there.

Um, don't mean to be unkind. But I doubt Laurel would allow stories to be posted if they are written by a 16 year old. Do you think we should encourage this poster? Shouldn't she be hanging out at the local Dairy Queen or something?

I think so ~

 

[Whispersecret]

Whoa. I had no idea booboo was so young.

Sorry, but I do think perhaps you should concentrate on stories more appropriate for your age. There's plenty of time yet for sexual content. Enjoy your "innocence."

 

[Ray Dario]

Just so all the authors here are aware - booboo_c is only 16 years old. Do we really need to be giving advice to some one who is too young to be on this board?

Think about it, folks.

Unless you want to encourage the minors?

Not to be argumenative Chele, but how do you know Booboo_c is only 16 years old? Did someone tell you? I tried to look up their profile and couldn't because they weren't registered.

Not asking to pick a fight and I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want to know.

Ray

 

[SexyChele]

Not to be argumenative Chele, but how do you know Booboo_c is only 16 years old? Did someone tell you? I tried to look up their profile and couldn't because they weren't registered.

Not asking to pick a fight and I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want to know.

Ray

Not a problem, Ray! The reason you can't see any info on our "sweet sixteener" is because it was reported earlier and her status was switched from registered to "guest". I suppose that it was done that because "booboo" had posted to other threads and deleting her posts would mean deleting the other threads as well - most of which were contributed to by other, honest posters.

If you still need proof of "booboo's" age, check out the "How To" forum, under the thread entitled "I need some". (or some such title. In it, she freely admits to being 16. When I read that, then checked her profile, she did indeed have a birthdate that made her 16.

From there, I saw that she had posted here, and others were answering her in good faith. As I know the majority of writers here (all??) are against minors being here, I thought I should bring this to the attention of the board.

 

[Ray Dario]

Chele, Thanks for answering, and very politely I might add.

And you're right, since Laurel and Manu have stipulated this to be an adults only site we, as Lit members, have an obligation to honor their wishes.

Not to mention that I'm personally against chidren being exposed to people like me.

Ray

 

[Coolville]

I don't mind at all.
In most European countries you're free to purchase adult films and magazines from the age of 16 and drink from the age of 15. Films with sexual content are rated 15+ while films with violence are 18+.
If you don't want to pay for it, just turn on the tv after 23:00.

But it's Literotica's call. Although a private email to Literotica regarding the person in question and private PMs to the others in the forum, as well as a polite email to person in question would have been more appropriate than "outing" them in that vigilante way.

 

[SexyChele]

I don't mind at all.
In most European countries you're free to purchase adult films and magazines from the age of 16 and drink from the age of 15. Films with sexual content are rated 15+ while films with violence are 18+.
If you don't want to pay for it, just turn on the tv after 23:00.

But it's Literotica's call. Although a private email to Literotica regarding the person in question and private PMs to the others in the forum, as well as a polite email to person in question would have been more appropriate than "outing" them in that vigilante way.

Yes, I know how "uptight" we Americans are regarding our children and sex. And, yes, I know that Europeans are much more enlightened than us. There are boards operated by Europeans that have more lax standards, in that case.

I did send a private report to Laurel, who handled it well. But was I to PM every person at Lit? Don't got the time for that. And, as you can see, even after I posted the originator was only 16, some one came right along behind me and answered her without reading what I had written. So, I don't think I caused too much harm.

And it seems a "vigilante" would indeed have PM'd every person at Lit telling them the whole scoop.

 

[Puppi]

Not that it matters anymore, but the kid is a boy, not a girl. The last post made by him, here, was "signed" Michael.


~Puppi

 

[Coolville]

chele

sure, there are boards in every country but being a democratic-minded individual from a democratic nation, I am free to choose where I wander on the net. Just as I am free to think as an individual and offer criticism as an individual.

One shouldn't, when met with criticism, merely say, "bugger off to another board if you don't agree with ME ME ME.

It undermines the whole free-thinking, democratic process.

Again, that is one man's opinion.

 

[moonfire]

Anyway, the mystery of "booboo's" tendency to be stuck with the same plot is sort of resolved. "Kind of young but pretty experienced" indeed. Started writing erotic fiction at the age of fourteen-and-a-half? Hmm.

But the question was a good one.

For me what makes the writing interesting is not the blow-by-blow physical account of sex, but the emotional field around it.

That's what I think.

moonfire

 

[JAYCE73]

GET OUT! More often. If you want to write a truly great, dare I say, erotic story, YOU have to look for different locations.YOU have to look for different characters.YOU have to find inspiration. These things don't come to you, by sitting there wonder if you cann write a story, that will make a woman cum.
I've had the priverledge of living in New York City, Manhattan. One of the great things about that place, is that is thrives with inspiring energy. The people, the landmarks, the sounds the smell. All combined, are actually very romantic, and erotic.
Imagine yourself on a crowded up-town subway car. A woman who is everything you desire stands before you. Your bodies lightly grind aginst each other as the train stops and starts. As more people get on, the closer you two become.................................... Fill in the rest.
You have to know, what erotica is. It's not just talking about fucking the lights out of a woman you met on the train, it's what braught you two together To that point.
Now, get off your ass and go and FIND some inspiration.


jayce73

 

[sirhugs]

Re: Re: Two questions... (please help)

Try plotting a story out that doesn't allow for the same characters, setting, sex, etc.

Do a historical piece from a time when attittudes, ettquette, and facilities are different from what your previous stories had.

Do an outdoor adventure story, or invent a new toy for your characters to learn how to use.

Stretch your imagination and do some research on different times and places. You might even try your hand at a mystery, or science fiction parody to get you out of your rut.

Not everyone experiences orgasms the same. Try an Earth, Air, Fire, Water rotation in your stories.

Describe your orgasm in "earthy terms" -- tremors, quakes, landlisdes, etc in one story.

Use "Airy Terms" in the next story -- Breezes, tornadoes, hurricanes, Gusts, and calms, etc.

Follow with a story that uses "Fiery terms" -- burning pasions, conflagrations consuming the senses, Rising flames of desire, etc.

Wrap up the cycle with "Watery terms" -- waves, tsunamis, currents, floods, etc.

Repeat the cycle or move on to other "themes" for your descriptive phrases as they occur to you.

Forcing yourself to follow a "theme" for a given story will (hopefully) expand your descriptive abilities enough to make the "same orgasm" seem different even if it's not.

dare I dis harold?
I think mixing the "themes" would work better- less obvious- but his idea makes good basic sense- using the themes to force variety.
another technique is just to ban yourself from usoing same actions in consecutive stories- so if nipples sucked in the first story, they get pinched in the next.

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: Re: Re: Two questions... (please help)

dare I dis harold?

Dis away. It won't bother me if you disagree.

I think mixing the "themes" would work better- less obvious- but his idea makes good basic sense- using the themes to force variety.

I think your creative writing teacher would disgree and mumble on about mixed metaphors being bad and how a consistent theme reinforces the imagery.

Mixing "elemental themes" is more difficult to do well. Tryng to mix fire/water images in the same sex scene can add unintended humor to a story unless you're very careful or very good with words -- especially in the case of someone who is struggling with learning to add variety to their work.

For "advanced authors" mixing image themes can add a lot to a story -- if He is fire and She is Air, a sex scene can be fanned into a veritable conflagration However, it is not something I'd recommend to a novice writer.

Each author and each story are different and what works for one won't work for the next.