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I have stayed away from the two fingers in, palm up and thumb on the clit advice because even when the GSpot is getting the living schnnott bashed out of it (sexy romantic visualization there huh?) the clit is still often super sensitive. You can have a woman on the brink of a series of huge GSpot orgasms and all of a sudden she will "lose it" because the clit is being rubbed too hard and because it is SO sensitive it pulls the concentration off the GSpot. I think bashing the clit is the one thing (well next to a house fire) that will kill the GSpot build up. If you have a really good angle and are careful not to over-stimulate her clit then that's great but something I didn't want to get into and suggest when couples are first learning the TECHNIQUE for fear of killing the action.

I can see that, and I think this would definitely be dependant on the individual woman. Now that I think a bit more about it, I think most of the pressure I use is with the fingers, the clitoral stimulation just being pressure and incidental contact. I did try the fingers/tongue thing the first time and nearly lost a tooth in the process. :D

As they say, mileage may very. I don't think there is any one way to do it, but I will say that the basics are the same. This thread should open the curtains and let people start exploring and learn the subtleties of their mate. It is of course these subtleties which make our mates special, and it is the learning process in search of these which makes this the most fun.

Especially after 11 years of marriage. :)
 
TBKahuna123 said:
The wife and I started playing around with this, and we discussed it on another thread. I'll paste part of my post there:

I use two fingers inside, curled up against he g-spot and then my thumb on her clit. Basically I put pressure as if pinching my fingers together with her g-spot and clit (and everything in between) between my fingers and thumb then make make small circular motions in opposite directions. Fun part is I picked this up from a story on Lit and thought I'd try it. hey it works!

Now, my wife doesn't squirt or anything and she gets so wet anyway that I can't tell if there is any increase caused by the g-gasm, but there is a difference. She is one of the lucky women who has an easy time having multiple orgasms (Might be that I'm just that damned good, but hey, I am a realist. :eek: ), so I wasn't sure this would be any different. I was wrong! Shake? Spasm? That's an understatement. She thrashed around so much she almost broke my wrist and she came so hard the first time that I truly thought I had hurt her.

I've tried this on her twice and she's cum hard both time, the last time she even hyperventilated. She lay there trying to catch her breath and I just caressed her, but all I really wanted to do was scream Who's Your Daddy. There's just something that really inflates the ego when you take your woman's breath away, litterally! I haven't tried giving her multiple g-gasms because I truthfully think the intensity scared her a little bit. We'll work on that though. I suppose when you have been having sex for 20 years and suddenly you feel a whole new sensation that not only makes you cum but makes you nearly pass out, it could take a bit to wrap your mind around. :cool:

I sent this to my husband and we played with it tonight, it worked better for me but still no endless orgasm thingie, I so wish! It was great, just not as much for me as for your very lucky wife. I worked better over all though for me. So thank you for posting it!! *hugs*

We have tried the, try this thing at least twice and it feels good but no multiples and to date still no G spot orgasm. Not giving up though, the closest things that have worked for me are some pleasure balls along with his fingers and a double penetrating vibrating toy. Very, close I think to getting what y'all are talking about.

Bandit58 said:
Mr G - the most recent time we did this I was on my hands and knees in a quivering heap after several Gspot orgasms when Gil started playing with my clit.....of course I tried to push his hand away but he persisted and it started feeling really good.....so good in fact that I had about three clitoral orgasms and then he went for another round of gspot ones :eek:

Indeed it can get a bit scary, your body takes on a life of its own and I have even used my safeword several times when it just got too much for me. Gil is highly amused when I put my hand up as if to push him away only to be taken over by another orgasm!

Oh to be scared so! I'm green girl! *hugs*

BTW, who is this? The guy from the German heavy metal band?

I :rose: t is just too right for me
I am a beautiful bisexual
two souls under my chest
two genders, one lust - Rammstein "Zwitter"

Thanks,
Fury
 
FurryFury said:
Oh to be scared so! I'm green girl! *hugs*

BTW, who is this? The guy from the German heavy metal band?

I :rose: t is just too right for me
I am a beautiful bisexual
two souls under my chest
two genders, one lust - Rammstein "Zwitter"

Thanks,
Fury

[hijack] Yes it is from a song called "Zwitter" which means "hermaphrodite" in German. The lead singer of Rammstein, Till Lindemann, is indeed bisexual :) [/end hijack] :)
 
Bandit58 said:
[hijack] Yes it is from a song called "Zwitter" which means "hermaphrodite" in German. The lead singer of Rammstein, Till Lindemann, is indeed bisexual :) [/end hijack] :)


Good! Thanks! That is what I thought.

*hugs*

Fury :rose:
 
Dear Ya'll

THE sez,

""I did try the fingers/tongue thing the first time and nearly lost a tooth in the process. ""

*** Don't say I didn't WARN you. If you try that from underneath and can't get away you'll lose more than a tooth !!!

""As they say, mileage may very. I don't think there is any one way to do it, but I will say that the basics are the same. This thread should open the curtains and let people start exploring and learn the subtleties of their mate. It is of course these subtleties which make our mates special, and it is the learning process in search of these which makes this the most fun. Especially after 11 years of marriage. ""

******

I was with one lover for 21 years and I was still discovering neat things about her when the angels came and took her away. **EDIT** It turns out in the end that my new woman in AZ chose to keep her fantasy world over me so the anticipated move to AZ is dead. I', staying in the Socialist Republic of Canuckistan for the foreseeable future. .... *shaking head* I'm not sure what she was thinking but her problems got the netter of her and being so far away I couldn't help so ... I hope her meds start working again and she has a nice life. I'm back on the market so to speak .... strange times. STrange world, huh?



Thanks again for posting and spreading the word. Every person you tell this to or point them to this thread adds to the amount of pleasure we are contributing to our friends, families, co-workers and even strangers. Sharing a TECHNIQUE that can bring so much pleasure and so much self confidence to BOTH partners is a wonderful thing. In light of all the meaness, crime, violence, greed in the world today it makes sharing this kind of info even more of a GIFT.
 
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All "hey we're masters of the g-spot" stuff aside here, I think there is something also very important that all the young people on this board should note in this discussion. (God that makes me sound old. :( ) GGG was with his wife for 21 years, I've been with mine for 11 amazing years, and we never stopped exploring. 21 years? Hell 11 years is nearly unheard of for a marriage to last in this day and age, and that is really a tragedy IMNSHO. I can honestly say that the key to a happy marriage is communication and keeping things interesting by realizing you NEVER know everything there is to know aobut your partner, because they keep changing. A marriage, or any relationship, is constantly evolving, and that's what makes it tough and fun.

Of course, back on topic, let us not forget that making your partner scream in pleasure until the plaster falls off the ceiling doesn't hurt either. :D
 
FurryFury said:
I sent this to my husband and we played with it tonight, it worked better for me but still no endless orgasm thingie, I so wish! It was great, just not as much for me as for your very lucky wife. I worked better over all though for me. So thank you for posting it!! *hugs*

We have tried the, try this thing at least twice and it feels good but no multiples and to date still no G spot orgasm. Not giving up though, the closest things that have worked for me are some pleasure balls along with his fingers and a double penetrating vibrating toy. Very, close I think to getting what y'all are talking about.

You're more than welcome! My wife doesn't have the "endless orgasm", more like ups and downs. You might also try this without the clitoral stimulation, just the internal g-spot massage for two reasons. 1) GGG might be right that the clitoral stimulation counters the g-spot orgasm. It does seem to for my wife, but it very well may for you. Like I said, each woman is different. 2.) Your g-spot may not be located exactly in the same spot we are describing and he may be missing it by just a fraction of an inch. The stimulation may only be partially on the g-spot, so what you are experiencing is just an enhanced clitoral orgasm rather than a g-gasm. Take away the clitoral stimulation and you might be able to better tell when he is on the g-spot.

All this scientific talk is fine here on the boards, but as they say, no battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy. As soon as you start playing around, chances are logical exploration will give way to heated passion, and suddenly whether he is right on the spot becomes a moot point, you'll just know it feels good. Oh well, another partially botched experiment, guess we need to try again, eh? LOL! :cathappy:
 
TBKahuna123 said:
The wife and I started playing around with this, and we discussed it on another thread. I'll paste part of my post there:

~snip~

I've tried this on her twice and she's cum hard both time, the last time she even hyperventilated. She lay there trying to catch her breath and I just caressed her, but all I really wanted to do was scream Who's Your Daddy. There's just something that really inflates the ego when you take your woman's breath away, litterally! I haven't tried giving her multiple g-gasms because I truthfully think the intensity scared her a little bit. We'll work on that though. I suppose when you have been having sex for 20 years and suddenly you feel a whole new sensation that not only makes you cum but makes you nearly pass out, it could take a bit to wrap your mind around. :cool:

Can I just say the gorgeous line about wanting to scream "Who's Your Daddy" had me splurting tea and laughing sooo hard. Love it! :)

Lots of fun continuing this side of the equator too.
 
herecomestherain said:
Can I just say the gorgeous line about wanting to scream "Who's Your Daddy" had me splurting tea and laughing sooo hard. Love it! :)

Lots of fun continuing this side of the equator too.

One thing about this thread is that it is a truely international & exciting sexual experience that all should have in there favorites list for reference at all time. :D & it only seems fair that those of us downunder enjoy it too;) yes i nkow i'm a mere male but showing my lady all the pleasures she has missed out on before in her life does bring me great pleasure.
 
More RESEARCH

No .. really ...

**Only 14% of the women reported always experiencing orgasm during intercourse.**
TRAGIC !!!

Genes blamed for fickle female orgasm

* 00:01 08 June 2005
* NewScientist.com news service


Is this the ultimate excuse for poor performance in bed? “Sorry, darling,” the man says, just before falling asleep. “It’s your genes.”

According to a study published this week, up to 45% of the differences between women in their ability to reach orgasm can be explained by their genes. Despite decades of surveys and conjecture about the role of culture, upbringing and biology in female sexual function, from Freud in 1905 to the Hite report in 1976, this is the first study of the role of a woman’s genes.

Its findings suggest there is an underlying biological basis to a woman’s ability to achieve orgasm. Whether that basis is anatomical, physiological or psychological remains uncertain, says Tim Spector of the twin research unit at St Thomas’ Hospital in London, UK, who carried out the study.

“But it is saying that it is not purely cultural, or due to peer pressure, or to differences in upbringing or religion,” he says. “There are wide differences between women and a lot of these differences are due to genes.”
Mixed results

Spector’s team asked more than 6000 female twins to fill out a confidential questionnaire about how often they achieved orgasm during intercourse and masturbation. They received 4037 complete replies, which included answers from 683 pairs of non-identical twins and 714 pairs of identical twins. The women’s ages ranged from 19 to 83, and about 3% were lesbian or bisexual.

Only 14% of the women reported always experiencing orgasm during intercourse. Another 32% of the women reported that they were unable to achieve orgasm more than a quarter of the time, while 16% never achieved it at all. Comparing the results from identical and non-identical twins suggests that 34% of this variation in ability to orgasm during intercourse is genetic.

The idea behind twin studies is that pairs of twins grow up in similar environments. So if identical twins are more similar in some way than non-identical twins, then that similarity must be down to their identical genes rather than the environment.

Unsurprisingly, more women were able to achieve orgasm through masturbation, with 34% saying they could always do so. However, the figure for those who could never achieve it was only slightly lower, at 14%. The analysis suggests that 45% of this variation is genetic.
Men cleared

Spector says he was surprised by the similarity in the numbers of women unable to experience orgasm either through intercourse or masturbation. “With masturbation there are fewer external factors – i.e. men,” he says. “So the higher heritability value for masturbation gives us a clearer picture of what’s going on.”

The discovery of a genetic basis for the ability of women to orgasm raises questions about its evolution. One theory is that it is a tool for mate selection, the idea being that males best able to bring females to orgasm are also the best males to help raise children. Another is that the female orgasm produces movements that increase sperm uptake, and therefore fertility.

But studies of other primates suggest otherwise. Female stump-tailed macaques have orgasms too – but mainly during female-female mountings, which hardly supports the fertility or mate-selection idea.

Bonobos engage in highly promiscuous sex and mutual masturbation, complete with orgasms, a practice that is thought to promote group cohesion. This supports yet another theory: that orgasm is important in bonding.
Accidental echo

But even if orgasm does play this role, it cannot be crucial in humans. The finding that many women cannot achieve orgasm because they do not have the genes for it shows that the ability to orgasm is not a trait for which there has been strong evolutionary selection, says Elisabeth Lloyd of Indiana University in Bloomington, author of The Case of the Female Orgasm. This supports her theory that as far as orgasms are concerned, women have been riding on the genetic coat-tails of male evolution, and that the female orgasm is merely an accidental echo of the male one, the equivalent of male nipples.

Lloyd says the findings also challenge the notion that the failure to achieve orgasm represents “female sexual dysfunction”, an idea popular with companies keen to sell remedies for this so-called disorder. “What definition of ‘normal’ could possibly justify labelling a third of women as ‘abnormal’?” she asks.

Even if struggling to achieve orgasm is nothing unusual, Spector says it might be possible to find ways to make it easier. Though hundreds of genes could be involved, “that doesn’t mean we couldn’t find the genes and pathways, if this was taken more seriously as a problem”, he says.

Journal reference: Biology Letters (DOI: 10.1098/rsbl.2005.0308)
 
I saw this last week and it actually prompted another interesting discussion with my wife. I said that this study says only 14% of women have an orgasm everytime they have intercourse, and asked if she was one of the 14%. As I've said before she does NOT have any trouble having an orgasm and is really lucky, so I thought I was just layign the ground work for some sexy talk to get her riled up. What I got was an ego buster when she said, no not always. She said I looked like someone just killed my puppy. :confused:

She then told me that she only orgasms during actual intercourse about 95% of the time. The times she doesn't is when we just go at it without any kind of build up, romantic not sexual foreplay. This just emphisises my belief that a large part of the female orgasm and it's intensity is tied to emotional connection. Needless to say I think the "quickie" is dead for me now. Anyhow, this made me realize what that study was really saying:

Only 14% of the women reported always experiencing orgasm during intercourse.

That does not surprise me, because most women I've been with needed some kind of additional stimulation to have an orgasm other than me just climbing on top and banging away.

One thing this study did not go into though is the physiology of the participants. Is it genetics causing hormonal differences or genetics effecting the physicial construction of these women's anatomies that affect their ability to orgasm.

But even if orgasm does play this role, it cannot be crucial in humans. The finding that many women cannot achieve orgasm because they do not have the genes for it shows that the ability to orgasm is not a trait for which there has been strong evolutionary selection, says Elisabeth Lloyd of Indiana University in Bloomington, author of The Case of the Female Orgasm. This supports her theory that as far as orgasms are concerned, women have been riding on the genetic coat-tails of male evolution, and that the female orgasm is merely an accidental echo of the male one, the equivalent of male nipples.

Sorry, I don't buy it. How can something so wonderful be an "accidental echo"? I'm just not going to support this theory, and not only because I think the science involved her is too one dimensional.

Personally guys, I think we're to blame. I've never been with a woman who didn't have an orgasm for one reason, I give a damn. If we males care about our partners experience there are ways to make every woman orgasm. I firmly believe that every woman has the ability to have an orgasm and just needs someone who's willing to figure out how to unlock it.
 
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My GF has a very difficult time of cumming with clitoral stimulation.....oral, vibes, etc.... it takes her close to probably an hour and then it might not happen. Now, before you say I'm just not hitting the right spot.....it's the same problem even if she is doing herself.

A couple weeks ago I decided to work on her G-Spot...something she has never had anyone else do. After about 10 minutes she was moaning and going crazy .... she moaned the words "I feel like I'm going to pee" so I knew I was off to the races.

I continued working on her for about an hour and she said "they" were the most intense orgasms she has ever had. She said she must have came about 5 times and just felt incredible.....

My next mission is to get her relaxed enough to "squirt" .... she said she knows she can and can't wait until she experiences that feeling.
 
Well there you go! Where there's a will there's a way!!! You just have to take the time to figure it out. Well done I say, well done! :D

I hope this brings a new joy to your relationship. I mean, how can it not, right?
 
Great news !!

Atta go INDY !! I bet she was blown away. I think a lot of women get very frustrated that they have such a problem time wise, cumming. Showing her that she is MULTI- orgasmic like that will do wonders for her self esteem and self confidence too, I bet. Keep up the research.


THE, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is ALL our faults. There are many reasons why a woman can't cum quickly, easily and repetitively. Some of them MAY be genetic. Frankly I think a lot of the "science" of the study is flawed but then WTF do I know?

Personally I think the biggest problem women in general have is that they don't know their own bods. There are many reasons for not experimenting at a young age and discovering what feels good and how to intensify those feelings. The whole MENTAL thing is also tuned during those early explorations so a woman CAN fantasize to help get herself off if he ain't quite making it for her. It IS absolutely crucial to a woman's orgasm for the emotions to be right. Some CAN get off on the pure lust of fucking a stranger or being in a dangerous location but your avg. woman needs the feeling ofemtional stability (love) to maximize her feelings and anchor the physicality to the feelings happening to her bod.

What girls can learn at a young age that is crucial is that it takes WORK. IMHO vibrators spoil a girl and do not teach them how to work for an orgasm. I think it just hits them like a brick. Without a vibrator muscles HAVE TO BE TENSED. You can't generally just lie there all relaxed, let him do everything he can think of and hope to cum. Women who DO NOT know their own bodies tend to do that though. Tensing and re-tensing the pubic muscles focuses and concentrates not only FEELINGs but blood flow into the region. Lying there relaxed and enjoying the sensations may feel good but he may be down there for a day or three waiting for her to CUM if that's ALL she's doing to help herself achieve the big O.

There are physical differences and innumerable permutations to the human form some of which add to the ease of sexual excitation and some things make it harder. One thing that has been mentioned in this thread a few times is muscle tone. Ladies - keep doing your Kiegels. If there is no muscle tone the tensing of the muscles you need to bring on an orgasm just aren't there. Any easily orgasmic woman will tell you that if she makes a concentrated effort to keep the PC muscles tensed DURING an orgasm the O is longer lasting and much more intense so that should be the first thing women who are having trouble cuming should do to try and make things easier. KIELGELS, KIEGELS KIEGELS.!!!

Neat trick for the ladies if you haven't thought of it already. Do your KIEGELS when he is IN you. It feels like gentle bites - unless you're a marathon runner and then it's probably more like a pitbull attack!! It is a Fabulous feeling for the guy !!
 
OK so maybe not all our faults, but I think if you ask a woman what makes a good lover one of the top things on the list would be that he cares about how she feels and her pleasure first.

As for the genetics question, I'm sure genetics plays a part in it, but what bothers me about this study is that it basically says some women just can't have an orgasm becasue of their genes. It doesn't say what the physiological effects of those genetic codes are that cause her to not respond to stimulus the same way other women do. It is a structural thing, such as lack of nerve endings in the clitoris? Is it lowered hormone levels which limit the release of endorphines? Is is underdeveloped muscles which make orgasmic contractions less intense? There's just more to it that can be corrected, and this study makes it sound like, "well that's just how you were built, deal with it!"

I wrote on another thread about my musings about progesterone levels and the quantity of female vaginal secretions. Totally non-scientific, but given the comments from a number of women here, I'd say there is a distinct possibility that there is a link between hormonal levels and how wet a woman gets. So maybe there are some hormonal level connections to ease/difficulty of the female orgasm.

And I also agree that vibrators have ruined a number of women. Not all, mind you, but some girls who start using vibrators early in their development can actually desensitize the clitoris. I had a very close friend in college who had this problem and she had a lot of trouble orgasming. Wish I'd known about the g-spot then! :rolleyes:
 
To be honest MR GGG, there may be a lot of women out there who do not know their own bodies. But there are many more men out there who either have no clue as to how to satisfy a woman, or just don't care and are only out to satisfy their own penis. I have run into many, many of the latter. When I have been with guys or gals who care about the other person's pleasure, I ALWAYS cum! I will alos add that a good part of a woman's pleasure has to do with the mental as well as the physical. If my mind is on other crap going on in life and not jsut relaxing and getting into the experience, I will ahve more difficulty in cumming. Also emotion aids in excitement, if I can feel the passion in kisses and caresses, everything else that is being done is intensified!
 
Hi Mr G and fellow researchers . . . time to contribute rather than just lurk . . .

Women's self knowledge . . . Since the 50s in Oz there was a deliberate social movement to discourage young people from knowing their own bodies.

Then the 60s hit with the Pill, and the anti-Vietnam movement . . . goodbye to Church inspired chasity . . .

I always found this social attitude somewhat strange and contrary to known history . . . Sydney was the biggest brothel in the South Pacific Theatre during WWII. It involved all social strata, married and single, so the surviving attitudes of adult family friends just ignored the puritanism . . . <confusing for a young lad> . . .

Re genetics . . . naturally there may be genetic reason behind sexual activity, but this will be moderated by social mores . . .

It is known that there are genetic variants. The "normal" population is described as:

males XY and females XX.

Really the male is a "deviate" of the basic female design. Some suggest that this is the reason that females are generally better survivors than males in stress situations.

But there are also super males, XYY and "super" females XXX or XXY.

It could reasonably be hypothesised that these fundamental genetic differences could be expressed as differences in sexual response that is not attributable to other factors like romantic foreplay and prevailing social attitudes.

There was a Scientific American article about this in the late 70s or early 80s. :)

Re Kegels: Yes please ladies!! They make childbirth safer and easier, not to mention the many pleasures for both parties during sexual activity.

Guys can do similar exercises to develop extraordinary powers of sustained sexual activity and withholding orgasm. ;) :devil:
 
TBKahuna123 said:
I'd say there is a distinct possibility that there is a link between hormonal levels and how wet a woman gets. So maybe there are some hormonal level connections to ease/difficulty of the female orgasm.

This article is pretty much common knowledge, but the last section about sex getting better with age is what caught my attention.

http://www.askmen.com/love/vanessa_100/115b_love_secrets.html

It seems to verify your observations.
 
WOW! Thanks for the great link.

OK I'm hooked. I think I'm gonna do a little research and put together a questionaire and see if I can solicit some volunteers here on the boards.

Now where'd I put that white lab coat... :confused:
 
And a fond

Good Morning / Good Evening to ya'll.

THE, I agree with all O dat - especially the "wish I'd known about the GSpot then..." Oh Lord and ain't that the truth. I could be Emperor or something by now!!

Whether it is genetic research or just plain sex research I don't have a lot of faith in their findings. I've posted parts of DR. (HA!!) Hines report somewhere in this thread. His conclusion after carving up 13 cadavers (I'm surprised he even thought to use women) was that he couldn't find anything in there marked G therefore the GSPOT was a friggin MYTH. End of argument. His RESEARCH proved it!!

As far as the latest and greatest sex RESEARCH on genes limiting a woman's ability to orgasm ?? Well I say take them off and try again without wearing anything this time.

OK so I'm a little skeptical of how some people do "research." It has proven itself over and over though with the "best" in the world telling us the G & A Spots are just not there and then people read all my (our) advice and think it is unmitigated BS and then Oopps it Works like CRAZIE ! So I mean how much faith can one put in this kind of press release when, as was pointed out by THE their "advice" is, " get over it. It's in your jeans" Crap!!

WET L.A. granted there are a lot of uncaring louts among the male pop HOWEVER and this may come as a big shock to a lot of women but you guys don't cum (sic-ahahaha) with instructions taped to yo butts. OUR explorations, early on, are trial and error and a jeanetic disposition to grab all the naughty bits. It isn't until we run into a girl who knows her body and can guide us through the build-up and when to use pressure and when not to etc. that we get "good." That BTW is why hardly anybody (including the researchers) knows diddly about how the GSpot works. If we know ANYTHING it is," GENTLE !! NOT SO HARD !!! " Whereas that is EXACTLY NOT what the GSpot needs. We discover the Gspot after reading some Cosmo BS article (and they don't know either) and we are gentle! Nothing happens and the latest research turns out to be, apparently, accurate.

Wrong!

The point is that if a woman doesn't know her own body then GOODLUCK with a young or inexperienced lover. He is going to be too rough here, too soft there and waaaay too quick because all he knows about his bod is "tug hard and during the messy phase it feels good so let's get to that part ASAP." Maybe if we look at OUR jeans (snort, I can't help myself) we can find a basis for that route and rush lovemaking technique. Back in the early days we had to BREED preferably and far more efficiently PRIOR to being stomped to death by some Wooly Mammoth or similar hostile life form. So slam bam
"grunt" was the order of the day. In that light it's a damn good thing we had that advanced sex technique #1 down pat. If we had taken our time in those days and made sure you guys had a "meaningful experience" you wouldn't be here telling us we don't know squat about the female form and care even less. I'm not being hostile - just realistic.

Now that we do have time to make sure you feel good both emotionally and physically it is up to YOU to let us know that nothing else should be tolerated. Ditto for us because few women have a clue what exactly to do with a male body either until some brute takes them gently by the ears and shows them - right? It is OUR responsibility to know our own bods and then share and with sharing comes learning and with knowledge comes sites like this where sharing something I think is quite unique (not to mention NONEXISTENT according to the researchers) allows people to learn and try out new ways of giving their partners pleasure. And THAT, as the nice Ex-Con lady would say, "Is a GOOD thing!!"

Whichever way you look at this technique however it is apparent that MUCH more RESEARCH is needed to prove this to the masses - whether they have their jeans on too tight or not!
 
Brilliant! Brilliant! Bravo! now if I can stop laughing long enough to make an intelligent post! :nana:

Seriously dude, that was humorous and OH SO TRUE! I think it's important though to recognize that this is a cultural thing. Look at the ancient Indian traditions, the Kama Sutra, etc. They taught their young people about sex, how to give AND recieve pleasure to their mates. They recognized the importance of this. The other key though was that they RESPECTED sex, and that is something we have also lost, I think.

Also I think it takes imagination, another trait we have trained out of our youth.
 
ullr said:
However, to any man raised on the notion or confusions of male superiority, the discovery of woman's inexhaustible multi-orgasmic capacities is truly humbling. It was then (mid-80s) that I knew that WOMEN (DAMN them!) have life better than men--they not only live longer on average, they are the most sexual creatures on the planet! I adore and worship these godesses who bewitch and beguile me. THIS brings up an ancient Myth my virginity stealing lover told me long ago, but I'll save it for another jucier time.... ; )

You're right, it is kind of humbling. I never really knew about this multiple orgasm thing before a few years ago, and now I see that women truly are the most sexual creatures on earth. I love them all!
 
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