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I posted this question in the politics board but I guess that none of you guys go there.
I have a curious nature, a need to understand, so please help this pilgrim.

If you can, explain why Trump is embracing an historic enemy with nothing to offer the majority of American citizens and insulting historic allies. Did you expect this dramatic turn in foreign policy when you cast your vote for president?

What will be the new world order as determined by a real estate salesman with no knowledge of world history.
 
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I posted this question in the politics board but I guess that none of you guys go there.
I have a curious nature, a need to understand, so please help this pilgrim.

If you can, explain why Trump is embracing an historic enemy with nothing to offer the majority of American citizens and insulting historic allies. Did you expect this dramatic turn in foreign policy when you cast your vote for president?

What will be the new world order as determined by a real estate salesman with no knowledge of world history.

Define embracing.
 
I posted this question in the politics board but I guess that none of you guys go there.
I have a curious nature, a need to understand, so please help this pilgrim.

If you can, explain why Obama is embracing an historic enemy with nothing to offer the majority of American citizens....like Iran.... and insulting Egypt, Saudi Arabia allies. Did you expect this dramatic turn in foreign policy when you cast your vote for president?

What will be the new world order as determined by a community organizer with no knowledge of world history.

we were enemies of Japan and Germany in WWII
 
Obama criticizes the ‘Free Riders’ among America’s allies

WASHINGTON — President Obama believes that Saudi Arabia, one of America’s most important allies in the Middle East, needs to learn how to “share” the region with its archenemy, Iran, and that both countries are guilty of fueling proxy wars in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

In a series of interviews with The Atlantic magazine published Thursday, Mr. Obama said a number of American allies in the Persian Gulf — as well as in Europe — were “free riders,” eager to drag the United States into grinding sectarian conflicts that sometimes had little to do with American interests. He showed little sympathy for the Saudis, who have been threatened by the nuclear deal Mr. Obama reached with Iran.

The Saudis, Mr. Obama told Jeffrey Goldberg, the magazine’s national correspondent, “need to find an effective way to share the neighborhood and institute some sort of cold peace.” Reflexively backing them against Iran, the president said, “would mean that we have to start coming in and using our military power to settle scores. And that would be in the interest neither of the United States nor of the Middle East.”

Mr. Obama’s frustration with much of the Arab world is not new, but rarely has he been so blunt about it. He placed his comments in the context of his broader struggle to extract the United States from the bloody morass of the Middle East so that the nation can focus on more promising, faster-growing parts of the world, like Asia and Latin America.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/...e-free-riders-among-americas-allies.html?_r=0
 
Obama: Reaching out to adversaries, alienating allies

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama promised to embrace America’s allies and extend a hand to its adversaries. As president, he has made remarkable progress in engaging longtime foes, restoring relations with Cuba and negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran. But the same can’t be said for all the country’s traditional friends. Obama certainly strengthened alliances with Western European nations turned off by George W. Bush, and worked closely with other countries to fight ISIS and reduce climate change. But on his watch ties have frayed with several countries previously considered U.S. partners, including Egypt, Israel, the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. The bitter back-and-forth this week between U.S. and Israeli leaders on Israel’s settlement policy is just one illustration of this trend.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/obama-israel-kerry-allies/511796/
 
I posted this question in the politics board but I guess that none of you guys go there.
I have a curious nature, a need to understand, so please help this pilgrim.

If you can, explain why Trump is embracing an historic enemy with nothing to offer the majority of American citizens and insulting historic allies. Did you expect this dramatic turn in foreign policy when you cast your vote for president?

What will be the new world order as determined by a real estate salesman with no knowledge of world history.

I am not sure to whom you are referring to.

I hope you are not listening to those liberal assholes again.
 
I posted this question in the politics board but I guess that none of you guys go there.
I have a curious nature, a need to understand, so please help this pilgrim.

If you can, explain why Trump is embracing an historic enemy with nothing to offer the majority of American citizens and insulting historic allies. Did you expect this dramatic turn in foreign policy when you cast your vote for president?

What will be the new world order as determined by a real estate salesman with no knowledge of world history.

Define embracing.

Exactly! I have to wonder if he's actually basing that presumption off of real events or just the rumor, gossip, and innuendo that is passing for front page news these days?

Ishmael
 
it should be noted

he didnt embrace anyone

all he did was state teh OBVIOUS

V Putin is a STRONG LEADER

no one can dispute that
 
In the U.K. a Trump is another name for a fart, it appears that is the same in the U.S.
 
Obama’s hazy sense of history

President Obama doesn’t know much about history.

In his therapeutic 2009 Cairo speech, Obama outlined all sorts of Islamic intellectual and technological pedigrees, several of which were undeserved. He exaggerated Muslim contributions to printing and medicine, for example, and was flat-out wrong about the catalysts for the European Renaissance and Enlightenment.

He also believes history follows some predetermined course, as if things always get better on their own. Obama often praises those he pronounces to be on the “right side of history.” He also chastises others for being on the “wrong side of history” — as if evil is vanished and the good thrives on autopilot.

When in 2009 millions of Iranians took to the streets to protest the thuggish theocracy, they wanted immediate U.S. support. Instead, Obama belatedly offered them banalities suggesting that in the end, they would end up “on the right side of history.” Iranian reformers may indeed end up there, but it will not be because of some righteous inanimate force of history, or the prognostications of Barack Obama.

Obama often parrots Martin Luther King Jr.’s phrase about the arc of the moral universe bending toward justice. But King used that metaphor as an incentive to act, not as reassurance that matters will follow an inevitably positive course.

Another of Obama’s historical refrains is his frequent sermon about behavior that doesn’t belong in the 21st century. At various times he has lectured that the barbarous aggression of Vladimir Putin or the Islamic State has no place in our century and will “ultimately fail” — as if we are all now sophisticates of an age that has at last transcended retrograde brutality and savagery.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386498/obamas-hazy-sense-history-victor-davis-hanson
 
it should be noted

he didnt embrace anyone

all he did was state teh OBVIOUS

V Putin is a STRONG LEADER

no one can dispute that

"all he did"?!? I suppose his people received absolutely no direction from him while meeting and attempting to set up back channels of communication?
 
This thread has delivered the comedy I had every expectation of. Ha. :D
 
This thread has delivered the comedy I had every expectation of. Ha. :D

It's said that laughter extends your life.

With about four years of these threads and the built-in nimrods that'll flock to them, we should be in Methuselahville lickety-split. :D
 
Is that a serious question?

We should maintain "historic enemies?" We warned about foriegn entanglements at our founding; not to have any enemies or Allies

Were just as concerned when Obama was whispering in the Russians ears that he would have more flexibility after he pretended to be tough to get through an election.

Where you just as concerned when Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood who historically and currently is an enemy of the United States?

You do realize the we have normalized relations with North Vietnam?

You do realize that Obama reached out to our historic enemy, Cuba, wall extracting absolutely no concessions on security or human rights for the Cuban People? You realize that the evil Cubans were a Soviet clients stayed and were hell-bent on putting nuclear weapons on our doorstep, historically?

I'm guessing you also weren't concerned when the other candidate Hillary Clinton had a history of actually taking money from Russian oligarchs to give away access one fifth of America's urianium?

Good job by the way of coming up with yet another angle on "But, but what about the Russians what about the Russians?"

-Which originally was just to provide cover for Clinton during the election because it was coming to light about the Clinton Foundation Scandal and the uranium one deal. Post-election it just made a convenient scapegoat even though the Democrats own analysis as to why she lost the election had zero to do with that had zero to do with even the email scandal and had everything to do with her message and where she attempted to deliver it.

If I were Trump I would schedule a set meeting with the Russian Ambassador each and every day just to piss off the appoplectic left.

I went ahead and answered what is obviously just a rhetorical question even though I'm not actually a trump supporter. Trump is far too progressive for my taste.

Hell maybe that's what it's all abou; he's just looking for pointers from the Soviet Union on socialized medicine.
 
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It's said that laughter extends your life.

With about four years of these threads and the built-in nimrods that'll flock to them, we should be in Methuselahville lickety-split. :D

I'm not ready for gray hair yet. :p

There's some seriously salty pretzels. Wow. Ha. :cattail:
 
Is that a serious question?

We should maintain "historic enemies?" We warned about foriegn entanglements at our founding; not to have any enemies or Allies

Were just as concerned when Obama was whispering in the Russians ears that he would have more flexibility after he pretended to be tough to get through an election.

Where you just as concerned when Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood who historically and currently is an enemy of the United States?

You do realize the we have normalized relations with North Vietnam?

You do realize that Obama reached out to our historic enemy, Cuba, wall extracting absolutely no concessions on security or human rights for the Cuban People? You realize that the evil Cubans were a Soviet clients stayed and were hell-bent on putting nuclear weapons on our doorstep, historically?

I'm guessing you also weren't concerned when the other candidate Hillary Clinton had a history of actually taking money from Russian oligarchs to give away access one fifth of America's urianium?

Good job by the way of coming up with yet another angle on "But, but what about the Russians what about the Russians?"

-Which originally was just to provide cover for Clinton during the election because it was coming to light about the Clinton Foundation Scandal and the uranium one deal. Post-election it just made a convenient scapegoat even though the Democrats own analysis as to why she lost the election had zero to do with that had zero to do with even the email scandal and had everything to do with her message and where she attempted to deliver it.

If I were Trump I would schedule a set meeting with the Russian Ambassador each and every day just to piss off the appoplectic left.

I went ahead and answered what is obviously just a rhetorical question even though I'm not actually a trump supporter. Trump is far too progressive for my taste.

Hell maybe that's what it's all abou; he's just looking for pointers from the Soviet Union on socialized medicine.

Along with the rest of your post, it's buncha crap.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/
 
Speaking of crap, you're the one who introduced Snopes to the discussion.
Seriously?

KingOreo should start his own Snopes. He is actually more qualified as a former reference librarian then the guy that runs Snopes is. All it requires is a laptop, an internet connection, and Googling for bias confirmation.

...qnd given the bias that Google itself has baked in, it'd be cake.
 
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