Trump sends stinking Christians back to where they came from

[someoneyouknow]

Almost immediately after Trump gleefully signed an unconstitutional executive order to prohibit people from certain country's coming into the United States, a Syrian Christian family was sent back to where they came from.

Trump's spokesperson commented, "The plan is working as expected. We sent them back because we don't want their kind here."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/us/syrian-family-trump-travel-ban/index.html

 

[Chris_Michael]

God works in mysterious ways.

However, Trump doesn't. He said what he was going to do, and he's doing it. We never expected it to be easy. But it needs to be done. By the way, Canada has their arms wide open for immigrants and refugees. All those "Christians" can meet up there.

Also, you might use that emotional bullshit "You hypocrites" argument against religious people, but it doesn't work on atheists.

 

[phrodeau]

Almost immediately after Trump gleefully signed an unconstitutional executive order to prohibit people from certain country's coming into the United States, a Syrian Christian family was sent back to where they came from.

Trump's spokesperson commented, "The plan is working as expected. We sent them back because we don't want their kind here."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/us/syrian-family-trump-travel-ban/index.html

Can you link to that spokesperson quote? I don't see it.

 

[Hard_Rom]

God works in mysterious ways.

However, Trump doesn't. He said what he was going to do, and he's doing it. We never expected it to be easy. But it needs to be done. By the way, Canada has their arms wide open for immigrants and refugees. All those "Christians" can meet up there.

Also, you might use that emotional bullshit "You hypocrites" argument against religious people, but it doesn't work on atheists.

And yet we have no great issues or fears of terrorists. Need to jack up the birth rate and younger population to offset the aging baby boomers.

Perhaps our multi-culturalism lets us assimilate them easier. Don't force it on them. Just let our decadent consumer driven culture water down their traditions in a generation or two. No ISIS recruits play hockey I bet.

 

[Chris_Michael]

And yet we have no great issues or fears of terrorists. Need to jack up the birth rate and younger population to offset the aging baby boomers.

Perhaps our multi-culturalism lets us assimilate them easier. Don't force it on them. Just let our decadent consumer driven culture water down their traditions in a generation or two. No ISIS recruits play hockey I bet.

This whole concept that we have no "great issues or fears" of terrorists is complete and utter bullshit. Only complete dumbasses (looking at you, Reza) would argue that.

Personally, I have no great issue or fear of being murdered by a black man. So, shrug off Chicago because it's just black men killing other black men, right? No.

Besides, terrorists aren't the only problem. ISLAM itself is the problem. By its very nature, it's barbaric.

Ben Shapiro is here to trigger you morons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

 

[someoneyouknow]

Can you link to that spokesperson quote? I don't see it.

It's called sarcasm. Just like her "alternative facts" lie, I'm sure this is what she would have probably said when asked about the policy.

EDIT: Apparently Conway has said something in line with my comment. To wit:

“That’s 1%,” she added. “And I think in terms of the upside being greater protection of our borders, of our people, it’s a small price to pay.” (in regard to comments about the number of people being detained)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kellyanne-conway-chaos-at-airports-after-immigration-order-is-a-small-price-to-pay-2017-01-29

 

[someoneyouknow]

Besides, terrorists aren't the only problem. ISLAM itself is the problem. By its very nature, it's barbaric.

No, Islam is not the problem, religion is the problem. By their very nature the four major religions are barbaric. Each claims there's is the true god and they're willing to kill you to prove it.

Further, if you look at what those religions say about men and women, completely barbaric. Look at the Hasidic and conservative jewish sects. Women are practically slaves, good only for having children. These two groups will even go so far as to attack people that disturb their religious views by such simple things as women not dressing modestly or men not having beards.

Considering the horrors perpetrated on this planet by Christianity for well over 1,000 years, that we're now experiencing some issues with Islam shows how forgetful people are.

 

[Chris_Michael]

No, Islam is not the problem, religion is the problem. By their very nature the four major religions are barbaric. Each claims there's is the true god and they're willing to kill you to prove it.

Further, if you look at what those religions say about men and women, completely barbaric. Look at the Hasidic and conservative jewish sects. Women are practically slaves, good only for having children. These two groups will even go so far as to attack people that disturb their religious views by such simple things as women not dressing modestly or men not having beards.

Considering the horrors perpetrated on this planet by Christianity for well over 1,000 years, that we're now experiencing some issues with Islam shows how forgetful people are.

Hahaha "Some issues by Islam." I like that. That's pretty good.

In some aspects, Christianity is worse *right now* than Islam is. Christianity preaches to African countries that birth control is a sin. That's something that needs to be stopped. AIDS will continue to plague Africa if we continue to allow it. Also, Chrisrianity stops Stem Cell Research and Abortion. Christianity also covers up acts of pedophilia. As Sam Harris puts it, Islam is off the hook for those things.

BUT, people have a reason to not act violent based on the actual context of the Bible. The New Testiment pretty much absolves anybody from any sin based on the death of Jesus. And the only thing he says is to spread the word. There is a very solid reason not to follow Old Testiment law, which for the most part, America is fairly good at.

Don't act like we have never been in a mental battle with Christianity. Atheists have fought hard against the Christian America. But as atheists, we will not tolerate an even more barbaric religion which is MUCH more conservative than Christianity at this very moment.

This is why the far left is called Regressive. You have stupid liberals fighting against Christianity and then supporting Islam. What kind of stupid shit is that? Do you really want two of the most dangerous religions taking over America? Or either one?

What the fuck do you morons even want? As an atheist, I want to stop any and all religion that interferes with the public. The religions that are truly peaceful like Jainism and some sects of Buddhism are fine. They don't interfere with the lives of those around them. Whatever.

So get the fuck out of here with the "Christianity is just as bad" shit. I know how bad Christianity is and has been.

 

[phrodeau]

So what should we do about the Jews, who are still bound by Old Testament laws?

 

[Chris_Michael]

So what should we do about the Jews, who are still bound by Old Testament laws?

You mean the people who don't even believe that there is a hell? The people who don't believe that you will suffer for eternity if you don't follow their holy text?

Nothing. We should do nothing to them until they become a problem. If you can demonstrate a problem, then we'll have to figure something out. But I don't oftentimes hear about the Jewish man perpetrating acts of violence based on his faith.

 

[srgreene]

Almost immediately after Trump gleefully signed an unconstitutional executive order to prohibit people from certain country's coming into the United States, a Syrian Christian family was sent back to where they came from.

Trump's spokesperson commented, "The plan is working as expected. We sent them back because we don't want their kind here."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/us/syrian-family-trump-travel-ban/index.html

The quote you included is not in the article you linked, so it seems to me your post is rather deceptive. I question whether or not any administration spokesperson made the statement you claimed was made. Perhaps you could document it?

Certainly this program as implemented in an heavy-handed manner, and I have to wonder how well thought out it was. One thing that your article did say was this:

<i>It makes me so sad that this great country is doing this to our Christians and to these people and to my family," Sarmad said</i>

I'd have to agree. And Trump did say Christians would be given priority. Refugees admitted last year were about 99% Moslem. They bring with them an ideology that tells them to make dhimmis out of people like me and allows them to make sex slaves of kuffir women.

My heart goes out to the Christians, Jews, Bahais, and various other groups subject to Islamic supremacy.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Hmmm . . .

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[someoneyouknow]

The quote you included is not in the article you linked, so it seems to me your post is rather deceptive.

The quote is in the second article, in the Marketwatch article. Here is the link again:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kellyanne-conway-chaos-at-airports-after-immigration-order-is-a-small-price-to-pay-2017-01-29

The quote is the fourth paragraph.

 

[srgreene]

The quote is in the second article, in the Marketwatch article. Here is the link again:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kellyanne-conway-chaos-at-airports-after-immigration-order-is-a-small-price-to-pay-2017-01-29 The quote is the fourth paragraph.

Thank you for your response. I'm sorry, but here is the fourth paragraph:

“That’s 1%,” she added. “And I think in terms of the upside being greater protection of our borders, of our people, it’s a small price to pay.”

Neither it, nor the rest of the marketwatch article you cited contains the admittedly insensitive and even inflammatory statement that you initially quoted, so I am puzzled.

Kelly Ann did say the separation of families is a temporary thing. Better if it hadn't happened at all, but I would agree that that is a small price to pay for the permanent separation of families that has occurred as a consequence of the murderous rampages of radical Islam throughout the world and throughout history.

Until the Islamic world comes to terms with the norms of civilized behavior, the immigration of Moslems should be highly constrained. That will be hard to do until the verses of the sword are removed from the Koran, and that will happen no time soon. Even in the heyday of the Communist Party USA, communists in Europe and and United States were not plotting mass terror as so many Moslems have in the West (in the East too).

 

[srgreene]

Hmmm . . .

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15826182_10154813579334354_7323602282456271771_n.jpg?oh=25a5a0f4ff3e349c4a50cdcec97356d2&oe=590B2817

What a stupid or intentionally deceptive comment (well I guess it could be both). To compare accidental deaths from lawnmower accidents is simply idiotic. As for gun deaths that are not terror related, well that is an issue we as a society need to address. But that in no way mitigates the threat posed by the 1400 year carnage caused by that ideological movement known as Islam.

Say, even hear of the Madrid bombings? Any reason you think that couldn't happen here? Canada stopped a similar plan before it was realized.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Thank you for your response. I'm sorry, but here is the fourth paragraph:

“That’s 1%,” she added. “And I think in terms of the upside being greater protection of our borders, of our people, it’s a small price to pay.”

Neither it, nor the rest of the marketwatch article you cited contains the admittedly insensitive and even inflammatory statement that you initially quoted, so I am puzzled.

See my previous post. It's called sarcasm. Though in this case, it wasn't too far from the truth.

 

[JackLuis]

What a stupid or intentionally deceptive comment (well I guess it could be both). To compare accidental deaths from lawnmower accidents is simply idiotic. As for gun deaths that are not terror related, well that is an issue we as a society need to address. But that in no way mitigates the threat posed by the 1400 year carnage caused by that ideological movement known as Islam.

Say, even hear of the Madrid bombings? Any reason you think that couldn't happen here? Canada stopped a similar plan before it was realized.

It is not Islam that causes the carnage it is the exploitation of Islam as an excuse by crazy bastards who will not even follow the tenants of Islam that are the enemy. Moslems are not the enemy but crazy bastards of all stripes. But mostly Sunni Wahabities are the craziest of them all.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Besides, terrorists aren't the only problem. ISLAM itself is the problem. By its very nature, it's barbaric.

Whatever it is, it is not going away. Today, one human being in five is a Muslim. 100 years ago, one human being in five was a Muslim. 100 years from now, one human being in five will be a Muslim. The infidel world just has to deal with that.

 

[EternalFantasy]

Almost immediately after Trump gleefully signed an unconstitutional executive order to prohibit people from certain country's coming into the United States,

The unconstitutional claim is still up for grabs and most likely will fail.

The constitution is for the citizens of the US to govern themselves by, and how to deal with each other.

Immigration and foreign policy are not covered by the constitution. As the law has it, the Executive branch has free reign to decide who enters and who does not.

 

[phrodeau]

You mean the people who don't even believe that there is a hell? The people who don't believe that you will suffer for eternity if you don't follow their holy text?

Nothing. We should do nothing to them until they become a problem. If you can demonstrate a problem, then we'll have to figure something out. But I don't oftentimes hear about the Jewish man perpetrating acts of violence based on his faith.

If you can offer the New Testament as a reason Christians aren't so violent, or point to the Koran as a reason Muslims are more violent, you have to own up to the Old Testament, and the violence commanded within it.

Religion is not causing terrorism in the Middle East. The most likely cause of terrorism is having to live in a perpetual war zone.

 

[JackLuis]

GOP congressman shrugs off detainment of Iraqi war heroes: ‘This happens’ to ‘people of this color’

Your other brother Darrell has the catch phrase.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) defended Donald Trump’s ban on travel from certain majority-Muslim nations, while refusing to answer questions on the executive order’s reported author.

The Republican lawmaker appeared Monday morning on CNN Newsroom, where host Carol Costello pressed him to address concerns that the order was written by Steve Bannon, the chief strategist for President Donald Trump and former chief executive of the “platform for the alt-right” Breitbart News.

“Does that concern you that Steve Bannon was advising the president, and he didn’t reach out to lawmakers like you? Costello asked. “You’re on the foreign relations committee.”

Issa insisted he wasn’t sure whether Bannon, who has said he believes Christians are engaged in a “very brutal and bloody conflict” against Muslim “barbarity,” helped draft the executive order.

“The president is trying to react to a crisis that has been ongoing for a period of time,” Issa said, and then tried to change the subject.

 

[Chris_Michael]

If you can offer the New Testament as a reason Christians aren't so violent, or point to the Koran as a reason Muslims are more violent, you have to own up to the Old Testament, and the violence commanded within it.

Religion is not causing terrorism in the Middle East. The most likely cause of terrorism is having to live in a perpetual war zone.

Tell that to Germany and Canada.

 

[phrodeau]

Tell that to Germany and Canada.

I did, when I posted it on here.

Neither Germany nor Canada has issued orders to halt refugees from Islamic countries.

 

[JackLuis]

Well it looks like Trump accomplished one thing. He got people arguing about another stupid thing instead of joining in Revolt against his Trumpanzi-Nazi cabal.

Fellow American don't fall for his lies, look at his actions. His words are hollow his actions are the issue. This is no longer the campaign this is the reality of Trump in the White House and all that that entails.

Resist 1460!​

 

[someoneyouknow]

The unconstitutional claim is still up for grabs and most likely will fail.

Funny, for eight years Republicans whined the every executive order Obama signed was both illegal and unconstitutional. In fact, my states Chairman of the Republican party recently stated as much in an editorial.

So which is it?

Immigration and foreign policy are not covered by the constitution. As the law has it, the Executive branch has free reign to decide who enters and who does not.

Not quite. Article 1, Section 8

The Congress shall have the power . . .

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Article 2, Section 2

He (the President) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;