Trump proposes eliminating federal funding for PBS, NPR

[FakeNews]

President Trump's newly proposed budget includes a proposal to end federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), part of a package that includes $300 billion in new spending overall. CPB provides federal funding for PBS and National Public Radio stations.

"The Budget proposes to eliminate Federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) over a two year period," according to the proposal.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/373434-trump-proposes-eliminating-federal-funding-for-pbs-npr

 

[bellisarius]

Long overdue.

 

[Luk]

Long overdue.

You can't be on government assistance and ask for government cuts to Sesame Street, asshole.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Long overdue.

Except that it's not going to happen.

 

[HisArpy]

Long overdue.

This. The gov isn't supposed to have a national media. If NPR and PBS can't make it on their own, let 'em fail.

Amtrak too.

 

[Luk]

This. The gov isn't supposed to have a national media.

I agree. FoxNews should go next.

 

[Que]

I agree. FoxNews should go next.

Not government funded.

You can't be on government assistance and ask for government cuts to Sesame Street, asshole.

Easily capable of self-funding.

"Very strong is the stupid in this one." - Frank Oz as Yoda in Luke is a Dumbass

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Not government funded.



Also self funding.

"Very strong is the stupid in this one." - Jim Henson as Yoda in Luke is a Dumbass

Frank Oz did Yoda

 

[Que]

Frank Oz did Yoda

I stand corrected; Luk will declare victory.

 

[Luk]

I stand corrected; Luk will declare victory.

Luk owns que ~The Geebee

 

[BotanyBoy]

A couple of drops in the bucket after going on a spend-o-thon.

Trump and the (R)'s had their chance to appear fiscally conservative......and blew it.

Not that I think NPR and PBS are worth a fuck but getting rid of them ain't about to turn the economy around nor is it any sort of conservatism. Like a bunch of 15 y/o girls at the mall with mom and dad's credit card.

It's "conservative" virtue signaling, trying to get an atta-boy for pretty much nothing after enough bullshit spending in the budget to buy up every fucking TV and Radio station in the country several times over.

 

[WoundedKnee]

It's funny how two entities in one Amendment are treating. One is scourged for any scintilla of trace to the government whereas the other is happily funded as if government largess and the picking and choosing of "winners" in the press were no big deal. I think that we should be consistent and apply a strict separation of state and press starting with funding but also including a prohibition on members of the press moving in and out of government.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The production of non-commercially sponsored content is a public good.

 

[WoundedKnee]

The production of non-commercially sponsored content is a public good.

Why?

Should the government sponsor "conservative" public radio and television?

 

[WoundedKnee]

Would it be a good idea for government to send money to churches who respond to disaster relief?

 

[Hypoxia]

In GupWorld there is no public domain. There is no 'public', no "we, the people", no general welfare to promote. There are only owners and the owned, with all benefits going to the owners, those wise white men guiding our undemocratic republic's path, rather like Beijing's central committee but better dressed.

There are no public spaces in GupWorld, on the landscape or airwaves, in the realm of discourse. There is no public ownership. Current proposal: sell-off gov't lands starting with national parks and airports. The leasebacks will be quite profitable.

Shut down all state and federal funded media not controlled by the White House, the Berlesconi model. Confiscate state and local public media and turn them over to a VOA run by the White House press office. Or just sell them off. You want to be heard? Buy a church with a studio. Televangelists get a free pass. Especially administration backers.

The basis of Marxist thought is that money trumps everything. Gups are the last Marxists.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think that we should be consistent and apply a strict separation of state and press starting with funding but also including a prohibition on members of the press moving in and out of government.

We should do the same thing with corporate M'arica, close those revolving doors between Goldman Sachs and the Treasury, Lockheed Martin/Generous Dynamics/Halliburton and the Pentagon, Monsanto/PFIZER and the USDA/FDA....and on and on an on.

Make it so that upon entering public service they go on the government cheese, never to get a penny from the private sector ever again.

If you can't be happy with whatever you've managed to accrue so far plus a fully benefitted upper middle class (in 98% of the country) government income for the rest of your life then public service as a congress critter/executive office holder is simply not for them and they can fuck off.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The production of non-commercially sponsored content is a public good.

Why exactly??

Do you think the government sponsored stuff is somehow more altruistic?

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Why exactly??

Do you think the government sponsored stuff is somehow more altruistic?

Well to be fair Sesame Street is pretty good. HBO has that shit now tho.

 

[WoundedKnee]

We should do the same thing with corporate M'arica, close those revolving doors between Goldman Sachs and the Treasury, Lockheed Martin/Generous Dynamics/Halliburton and the Pentagon, Monsanto/PFIZER and the USDA/FDA....and on and on an on.

Make it so that upon entering public service they go on the government cheese, never to get a penny from the private sector ever again.

If you can't be happy with whatever you've managed to accrue so far plus a fully benefitted upper middle class (in 98% of the country) government income for the rest of your life then public service as a congress critter/executive office holder is simply not for them and they can fuck off.

Then where will your expertise come from? The government doesn't need expertise in protecting the Second Amendment, but it needs some expertise when it comes to more complex economic concerns. Having said that, there is also a large and undue influence on the part of some of the players, but I submit, most of that is because how powerful the government has become and those at the top jump through all sorts of hoops to protect themselves while the rest of us are left dangling as low-hanging fruit.

 

[Hypoxia]

The production of non-commercially sponsored content is a public good.

Why?

Because Congress is empowered to so declare it, under the "promote the general welfare" clause of the US Constitution. Just as Congress can declare that preserving historic sites is a public good. Oh fuck it, let's just sell off national cemeteries and battlefields. And all public parks. That land can be better used commercially. All land should be developed commercially.

And all media content must suit an advertiser's purposes. If the public wants a voice, they can... oh wait, there is no "the public", only owners and owned. Everything you see and hear must enrich the owners. That's in the Federalist Papers or the Declaration of Independence or something, right?

Forget what Adam Smith wrote about the owners needing to be tightly regulated by gov't. Gups agree with Marx: Money trumps everything.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well to be fair Sesame Street is pretty good. HBO has that shit now tho.

It is, but I don't think it's better than Spongebob, Ghostbusters and the Ninja Turtles.

AND Sesame Street is pretty good because it's a great kids show put on by people who give a fuck about what they are doing so they add value to their programming for their consumers. Absolutely no different than their private sector counterparts.

My point to the resident government worshiping, totalitarian, anti-M'arican leftist, BumNextDoor was that being public funded doesn't inherently make something a valuable good.

As verified by the full range of fantastic programs and worthless dog shit that have crawled out of both.

 

[WoundedKnee]

~~ groan ~~

A return to the general welfare clause. It's the good'n plenty clause of the Constitution.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

It is, but I don't think it's better than Spongebob, Ghostbusters and the Ninja Turtles.

AND Sesame Street is pretty good because it's a great kids show put on by people who give a fuck about what they are doing so they add value to their programming for their consumers. Absolutely no different than their private sector counterparts.

My point to the resident government worshiping, totalitarian, anti-M'arican leftist, BumNextDoor was that being public funded doesn't inherently make something a valuable good.

As verified by the full range of fantastic programs and worthless dog shit that have crawled out of both.

When the kids were younger I would make excuses to watch Spongebob with them. That was some funny shit.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Why?

Should the government sponsor "conservative" public radio and television?

Your boogyman does not exist, except in your head. You tilt at windmills, which normally I could careless about as long as you only hurt yourself.

I am not going to bother to explain to you why non-commercially sponsored programming is a public good. Suffice to say I see it that way.