"Trump "leaked" classified data to Russians" fake news motivation

[renard_ruse]

The latest utterly bogus made up daily lie about the Trump administration is that the President "leaked" alleged classified information to the Russians during his meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

While the common interpretation would be this is another ridiculous BS story made up to create a potential excuse to remove Trump, I think the more realistic explanation is that this is designed to scare him into any further meetings with Russian leaders and thwart his campaign promise of improving relations with a great potential ally like the Russian Federation.

The one thing the media hates more the President Trump is improved relations with Russia. Russia is being punished for refusing to cowtow to the Davos / NWO demands and surrender its sovereignty to the western led world elite.

This particular fabrication is first and foremost anti-Russia propaganda, and only secondarily about President Trump.

 

[about_average]

Obviously they are denying it, so it can be labeled "fake news" but it certainly fits Trump's well documented pattern of not understanding national security nor even caring to learn about it.

 

[Libsam]

So many things are lost down the memory hole.
Remember the DNC leaks!

Leaked Memo Exposes George Soros' Plan To Overthrow Putin & Destabilise Russia

 

[Rightguide]

This phony story might have been disseminated in order to push the Seth Rich story out of the spotlight.

 

[Conager]

At this point, the same outlets caught in the DNC emails actively colluding woth the Clinton campaign using an "anonymous source" has zero credibility. It's possible that some of these anonymous sources are actually real and not figments of so-called reporters imaginations and possibly truthfull, but those outlets gave up the presumption of objectivity and veracoty when they colluded with Clinton in an embarrassing failure to defeat Trump.

 

[Conager]

Just saw the headline in The Arizona Repulsive.

"Report: Trump Gave The Russians Intel"

Trying to give the impression that there's some Warren Commission report that concluded that and not just some refuted, unsourced claim by some hack at The Wasington Post.

 

[Rightguide]

Just saw the headline in The Arizona Repulsive.

"Report: Trump Gave The Russians Intel"

Trying to give the impression that there's some Warren Commission report that concluded that and not just some refuted, unsourced claim by some hack at The Wasington Post.

Amazing isn't it?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Eric Erickson:

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

 

[Conager]

Do you mean how ^that description of a source known to that reporter would identify the source from the handful of people with access to that room and that information?

That sort of failure to protect a "source?"

Yeah I could write like that too...

"My sources from deep within the President's Circle say that his sources are full of shit."

 

[phrodeau]

Do you mean how ^that description of a source known to that reporter would identify the source from the handful of people with access to that room and that information?

That sort of failure to protect a "source?"

Yeah I could write like that too...

"My sources from deep within the President's Circle say that his sources are full of shit."

The source is President Trump himself. And yes, he is a person of that substance.

 

[Conager]

The source is President Trump himself. And yes, he is a person of that substance.

Did you even read Oreo's quote? (Not that he, himself, does...)

 

[phrodeau]

Did you even read Oreo's quote? (Not that he, himself, does...)

Trump admitted the disclosure through his Tweets. I will accept his veracity this time.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.
21,358 replies 12,668 retweets 47,216 likes

It is unquestionably wrong for him to do what he says he did. If he wanted to share intel with Russia, he only had to let the CIA know, and they would take care of it securely through their established channels.

He told the American people that he was leaving the fight against ISIS up to the generals. He has no business sticking in his oar.

 

[Conager]

Trump admitted the disclosure through his Tweets. I will accept his veracity this time.

It is unquestionably wrong for him to do what he says he did. If he wanted to share intel with Russia, he only had to let the CIA know, and they would take care of it securely through their established channels.

He told the American people that he was leaving the fight against ISIS up to the generals. He has no business sticking in his oar.

Antecedants matter.

The writer Oreo quoted was not pretending his source was the president.

You could have just said, "No, I did not read Oreo's quote you were responding to, I just wanted to make a snarky comment and piggybacked off of your use of the word, "source" to attempt, (and fail,) to win some sort of argument we were not having"

Glad we sorted out the 'source' of your misconception.

 

[HisArpy]

Trump admitted the disclosure through his Tweets. I will accept his veracity this time.

It is unquestionably wrong for him to do what he says he did. If he wanted to share intel with Russia, he only had to let the CIA know, and they would take care of it securely through their established channels.

He told the American people that he was leaving the fight against ISIS up to the generals. He has no business sticking in his oar.

I don't know if it was "unquestionably wrong" for him to do what he did. It think it was odd, but I wasn't there, didn't have the information he did, and so on.

As for him "sticking in his oar" he's the PRESIDENT. It's his job to stick his oar anywhere he wants to when it comes to ISIS and/or the military and/or national security.

 

[Conager]

Oh. Are we actually responding to phrodeau's sanctimonious drivel?

My favorite part was where he insists that the CIC must communicate through "established channels."

I guess the intelligence community should censure him for going above their heads outside of approved channels. . .

(To discuss things that are already known to the Russians.)

 

[Adre]

“I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” Trump boasted at last week’s meeting with the Russians, according to an official with knowledge of the meeting.


Can you imagine the Russians laughing at this clown after a couple of vodkas later?

 

[HisArpy]

“I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” Trump boasted at last week’s meeting with the Russians, according to an official with knowledge of the meeting.


Can you imagine the Russians laughing at this clown after a couple of vodkas later?

So, are you saying that Trump ISN'T given great intel every day?

Or, are you saying that Russia hasn't been laughing at us for the last decade anyway?


Con: Yes I'm responding to Phauxdo's comments. Because he, like a lot of others, seems to think that no matter what Trump does, it's wrong and illegal. Even if it's not.

 

[Conager]

Trump is a buffoon and in over his head but that's the way it is with virtually every president. The only recent president that knew how the intelligence community actually functions was George Bush the first.

The intelligence community hated Carter although arguably as a Navsl Offficer, he was well qualified analyzing and understanding intelligence matters.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So, are you saying that Trump ISN'T given great intel every day?

Possibly not.

Back in January, there was a little-noticed story among all the hubbub surrounding reports of Russian interference in the election and possible ties with the Trump campaign. YnetNews reported the following:

Donald Trump’s upcoming inauguration as the next president of the United States is causing Israeli intelligence officials to lose sleep as well. Discussions held in closed forums recently raised fears of a leakage of Israeli intelligence top-classified information, clandestine modus operandi and sources, which have been exposed to the American intelligence community over the past 15 years, to Russia – and from there to Iran.

The following month the Wall Street Journal reported this:

US intelligence officials have withheld sensitive intelligence from President Donald Trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter . . .

These reports were received in right wing circles as evidence of ongoing treason by the intelligence community. I recall coming across them and thinking that it seemed paranoid. It was hard to imagine that even Trump could be so dumb or craven as to give secret information to anyone, particularly to the Russian government. Sure, he had a thing for Putin and was precipitously tilting toward Russia for shallow and unstrategic reasons, but the presidency would have to sober him up and require him to operate in a more serious manner.

Nobody in their right minds could ever have believed that within four months Trump would unceremoniously fire the FBI Director over what he admitted were concerns about the Russia investigation and then, the next morning, meet with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office. The meeting had been previously scheduled, but it looked terrible. It looked even worse when the American press was kept out of the meeting while Russian government media were allowed in. they posted pictures of President Trump grinning like a jack-o’-lantern with Lavrov and a surprise guest at the meeting, Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the man at the very center of the Russia probes.

 

[phrodeau]

Oh. Are we actually responding to phrodeau's sanctimonious drivel?

My favorite part was where he insists that the CIC must communicate through "established channels."

I guess the intelligence community should censure him for going above their heads outside of approved channels. . .

(To discuss things that are already known to the Russians.)

Loose lips sink ships.

How many dead is the threshold for you to realize that Trump did something wrong?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Sounds like some US Intelligence Officials need to be fired...



Do you seriously think they desire to have an uninformed decision maker???

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Loose lips sink ships.

How many dead is the threshold for you to realize that Trump did something wrong?

When his body count gets anywhere near the Obama body count of the Arab Spring.

 

[Lancecastor]

(CNN)Israeli intelligence was a source for some of the information on ISIS bomb-making capabilities that President Donald Trump discussed with Russian diplomats, US and diplomatic officials told CNN.

Guess they'll get to keep the wall.

 

[phrodeau]

Guess they'll get to keep the wall.

And they'll make Palestine pay for it.

 

[Adre]

Sounds like some US Intelligence Officials need to be fired...



Do you seriously think they desire to have an uniformed decision maker???

I don't believe he wore a uniform...except in prep school.