True Life Tale without too much detail?

[jaF0]

Not me, and I won't reveal who.

How can a person write a true life tale for Lit about unfortunate things that happened to them while growing up that doesn't run afoul of Lit's age or non-consent rules? How can they say they were abused without it being considered underage? We know they can't describe anything pleasurable, but this would not be. But then, how to tell it was not pleasurable without crossing the non-consent line?

This person seems to be trying to get past some things and help heal old wounds.

 

[ElectricBlue]

This person seems to be trying to get past some things and help heal old wounds.

They could write it anyway, as therapy, but not for publication at Lit.

I can't see Laurel changing any policy stance just because a story is therapeutic for some individual. Can you imagine all the "true" stories we'd see trying to get through that concession loophole?

 

[jaF0]

The point is not to get by through some exemption or loophole. The point it to try and write it in a way that passes legitimately.

 

[ElectricBlue]

The point is not to get by through some exemption or loophole. The point it to try and write it in a way that passes legitimately.

From your brief description, it would appear to bump both the age and non-con lines, so would be problematic for both - and probably not erotic (keeping in mind the point of this publishing platform).

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't see how it would fly. Literotica's rule against underage sex is broad and strict. I think it would have to be published elsewhere.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Not me, and I won't reveal who.

How can a person write a true life tale for Lit about unfortunate things that happened to them while growing up that doesn't run afoul of Lit's age or non-consent rules? How can they say they were abused without it being considered underage? We know they can't describe anything pleasurable, but this would not be. But then, how to tell it was not pleasurable without crossing the non-consent line?

This person seems to be trying to get past some things and help heal old wounds.

My understanding is that Literotica doesn't accept stories that advertise themselves as being true, presumably for defamation-type reasons, so the author's not going to get any concessions on grounds of it being true.

The site will accept mention of under-age sex as backstory if it's not detailed, and I think that includes abuse (haven't gone there myself, pretty sure other authors have though). So for instance, something like "her uncle had raped her at age fourteen" might be allowed, but describing that event in any detail would not. If the author needs to do that, Literotica just isn't the site for it.

 

[NotWise]

The site will accept mention of under-age sex as backstory if it's not detailed, and I think that includes abuse (haven't gone there myself, pretty sure other authors have though). So for instance, something like "her uncle had raped her at age fourteen" might be allowed, but describing that event in any detail would not. If the author needs to do that, Literotica just isn't the site for it.

I have two stories with characters who suffered childhood abuse, both using descriptions that were more obtuse than what Bramblethorn suggested. I didn't use the word "rape" and neither description gave the age. I'd suggest he leave the age out. Both made it clear that it was a physical attack.

The first (which was maybe the most difficult thing I've written) went through without a hitch. The second was initially rejected. I resubmitted it, and in the notes sections I quoted the passage that I thought was most problematic. Laurel let it through.

edit: They probably would get more mileage by concentrating on the emotional impact and consequences of the event, rather than the physical act.

 

[lovecraft68]

You can keep it vague, "I was sexually abused as a child" I think that would be okay, but stay away from "when I was 12 I was forced to..." things like that.

Truthfully if you want to write this story in detail to give yourself or whoever this is some closer /catharsis which is why some of us write of darker traumatic things...this is not the site for any serious type of story with that content.

 

[jaF0]

It'll be a few days before they pass me any of the content to review.

 

[KeithD]

Child abuse isn't erotic. I'd submit it somewhere else if I wrote it.

I did cover that in one of my long series, where I wrote and posted the "before" story after several later works (and, yes, it's been posted to Literotica, without question, for a long time). I just wrote the protagonists situation as a child fully enough so the reader could figure it out for him/herself. It wasn't the focal point of the plotline, though.

 

[LAHomedog]

I have two stories with characters who suffered childhood abuse, both using descriptions that were more obtuse than what Bramblethorn suggested. I didn't use the word "rape" and neither description gave the age. I'd suggest he leave the age out. Both made it clear that it was a physical attack.

The first (which was maybe the most difficult thing I've written) went through without a hitch. The second was initially rejected. I resubmitted it, and in the notes sections I quoted the passage that I thought was most problematic. Laurel let it through.

edit: They probably would get more mileage by concentrating on the emotional impact and consequences of the event, rather than the physical act.

I agree with this and also suggest that putting the story into a safer story hammock, for example the story is being told in therapy, that might help to give it context.

Continuing the example: If it was in therapy, the doctor/therapist could also contribute some story and background by commenting or reviewing. They could even read "case history" or some more professional jargon.

I really think that context is the key here starting with the title of the story and I suggest maybe an explanation at the top.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

If there's a brief mention of rape or abuse having happened, but the bulk of the story is about the now-adult character attempting to get over it, say trying to have sex and freaking out but eventually overcoming it, there shouldn't be a problem. (the story I've submitted for Geek Pride has some elements of this.)

 

[XerXesXu]

The point is not to get by through some exemption or loophole. The point it to try and write it in a way that passes legitimately.

Would this 30 years old Ph.D. student's true life story pass the non-con test.

Read the first 3 and last 3 paragraphs.

Life imitates art.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...n-sexually-assaulted/ar-AAKf9uk?ocid=msedgntp

 

[Zeb_Carter]

My understanding is that Literotica doesn't accept stories that advertise themselves as being true, presumably for defamation-type reasons, so the author's not going to get any concessions on grounds of it being true.

The site will accept mention of under-age sex as backstory if it's not detailed, and I think that includes abuse (haven't gone there myself, pretty sure other authors have though). So for instance, something like "her uncle had raped her at age fourteen" might be allowed, but describing that event in any detail would not. If the author needs to do that, Literotica just isn't the site for it.

That's not really true. There are all kinds of stories here at Lit that claim to be true.

 

[Bramblethorn]

That's not really true. There are all kinds of stories here at Lit that claim to be true.

How many recent? IIRC we had a post a couple of months back from somebody whose story had been rejected for claiming to be true. Wouldn't be the first time the site's changed its policy on what's acceptable.

 

[jaF0]

'The story you are about to read is true. The names have been changed to protect ... everyone.'

 

[SimonDoom]

How many recent? IIRC we had a post a couple of months back from somebody whose story had been rejected for claiming to be true. Wouldn't be the first time the site's changed its policy on what's acceptable.

You're right, there was a thread about that, and I know I've seen a guideline somewhere (can't find it now, of course -- I can never for the life of me find all the Lit submission guidelines) that says one can't claim the stories are true.

Zeb and others are right that one can always find examples of stories at Lit that don't seem to conform to the purported guidelines. The Site has toughened up its guidelines over the years. I have seen some stories get deleted, apparently because they don't conform to the updated standards, but understandably some of it doesn't get caught.

Even if it's just a passing reference, such as "When I was 14 I was raped by my stepfather" I don't think it would pass muster at Lit if you claimed in an introduction that the events were true, because it would still pose exactly the same problem that a longer passage would: the possibility of a defamation claim, which I think is what Lit wants to avoid.

 

[Bramblethorn]

You're right, there was a thread about that, and I know I've seen a guideline somewhere (can't find it now, of course -- I can never for the life of me find all the Lit submission guidelines) that says one can't claim the stories are true.

Zeb and others are right that one can always find examples of stories at Lit that don't seem to conform to the purported guidelines. The Site has toughened up its guidelines over the years.

Yep, some stuff seems to get grandfathered in.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

You're right, there was a thread about that, and I know I've seen a guideline somewhere (can't find it now, of course -- I can never for the life of me find all the Lit submission guidelines) that says one can't claim the stories are true.

Zeb and others are right that one can always find examples of stories at Lit that don't seem to conform to the purported guidelines. The Site has toughened up its guidelines over the years. I have seen some stories get deleted, apparently because they don't conform to the updated standards, but understandably some of it doesn't get caught.

Even if it's just a passing reference, such as "When I was 14 I was raped by my stepfather" I don't think it would pass muster at Lit if you claimed in an introduction that the events were true, because it would still pose exactly the same problem that a longer passage would: the possibility of a defamation claim, which I think is what Lit wants to avoid.

There was a story I was reading... a long time ago in another galaxy far, far away... not really, it was right here on Lit. Anyway I read it through once and had to check to see where on the net I was. I looked up at the address bar and I found I was on Lit.

Half way through the story I was perusing the woman suddenly was having sex with her German Shepard and it wasn't a sheep herder, it was her dog.

Now I sat there wondering how the hell did this get past Laurel, then I looked at the publication date... it was almost back at the beginning of Lit. probably when Laurel was overworked and overloaded with things to do to get the site up and running smoothly.

Anyway, I reported it and it was gone within the day.

So yes some things slip through the cracks, and even though a story might start off with, this a true life story, I never believe that shit anyway.

You would be a real narcists if you just had to see your life in print, unless your where some dead president or over inflated ego sports figure or some blockbuster dead movie figure.

I sure wouldn't want my live story told, first it wouldn't sell worth shit and second it's not all that interesting. Except those times I was in the jungles... well never mind it just involves a lot of blood and a couple of sheep.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

There are other sites where such stories can be posted with large readerships...

 

[gordo12]

My understanding is that Literotica doesn't accept stories that advertise themselves as being true,

I've read tons of stores in LW that claim to be true. Unless this is a recent change

 

[Bramblethorn]

I've read tons of stores in LW that claim to be true. Unless this is a recent change

First I heard of a "true story" being rejected was a few months back, IIRC, so could well be a new change.

 

[ElectricBlue]

First I heard of a "true story" being rejected was a few months back, IIRC, so could well be a new change.

Yes, that's my recollection. I think it's a newer editorial thing.

 

[gordo12]

First I heard of a "true story" being rejected was a few months back, IIRC, so could well be a new change.

Yes, that's my recollection. I think it's a newer editorial thing.

Why do I get the feeling Lit has hired a new lawyer

Actually, it would be nice if Laurel maintained a thread letting us know about changes to their policies.

 

[jaF0]

I was a'contemplatin' pingin' 'er, but I don't think she likes the boards any more.