Transexual experiences

[Wanntry]

Anybody got any transexual (shemale) experiences to share?

I am at a stage where I want to experience some of the wilder things that I haven't done yet, before it's too late! Among these is an encounter with a shemale.

Before I get into something, though, I'd like to know what others have done, and any advice. I know every situation is different, you mileage may vary, etc. But, some guidelines and past experiences would be really handy. Any transexuals who read this, your opinions and input would be really valuable.

Thanks.

 

[Tymeless]

Anybody got any transexual (shemale) experiences to share?

I am at a stage where I want to experience some of the wilder things that I haven't done yet, before it's too late! Among these is an encounter with a shemale.

Before I get into something, though, I'd like to know what others have done, and any advice. I know every situation is different, you mileage may vary, etc. But, some guidelines and past experiences would be really handy. Any transexuals who read this, your opinions and input would be really valuable.

Thanks.

My first response would be don't refer to any of us as she-males unless they tell you its alright. We are women or transwomen or mtf transexuals or most will even accept tranny but most do not like to be called she-males. Other then that you gotta worry about our sexuality a lot like men. Some are bi. A lot are like me though and a lesbian. If you find one that likes men your best bet to get in bed with her is to treat her like a lady and actually show interest in her as a woman that you could have a relationship with. Most of us have our guards up a lot of the time and the ones that don't haven't been hurt yet or are a lil nieve. Just remember we are women and you'll have a chance if you play the cards right.

 

[Wanntry]

Thanks, Tymeless

Firstly, may I apologize to you (and anyone else who reads this thread) for using the wrong term. It was not my intention to offend anyone, just ignorance on my part. It's because of that ignorance that I started this thread; I appreciate your input. Thank you.

This is a whole area and lifestyle that is not mainstream where I hangout. I am fascinated to know more. I am sure I am not the only person who is. I can imagine that any transwoman is cautious about opening up and telling all, for the reasons you mentioned: Previous hurt, sometimes through ignorance like mine, and maybe, sometimes, as a result of malice.

Anyway, again, thanks for the response.

 

[Tymeless]

Firstly, may I apologize to you (and anyone else who reads this thread) for using the wrong term. It was not my intention to offend anyone, just ignorance on my part. It's because of that ignorance that I started this thread; I appreciate your input. Thank you.

This is a whole area and lifestyle that is not mainstream where I hangout. I am fascinated to know more. I am sure I am not the only person who is. I can imagine that any transwoman is cautious about opening up and telling all, for the reasons you mentioned: Previous hurt, sometimes through ignorance like mine, and maybe, sometimes, as a result of malice.

Anyway, again, thanks for the response.

Oh i didn't take your previous post as offensive. My goal is to inform others to better understand transpeople. I may come off as sounding upset but i'm usually not. Part of the problem may stem from the fact that usually when i see this post i've just got home from work and am a bit agitated and the word shemale drives me crazy. No i don't see any malice or anything from your post i just like to let people know how most of us feel about the term shemale. I hope i'm making sense and i wish you luck and i'll be glad to answer your questions as long as i don't feel like your trying to sexualize me. I may be becoming a sex object in some peoples minds but i'm still a woman deep down inside with emotions and feelings and because of my years as a man i'm kinda vocal about what i dislike at times.

 

[Wanntry]

More questions

Tymeless (Tiffany?): Your post raised some questions for me.

You said that you and many others live as lesbians. I don't get that! It seems to me that most of the world tends towards heterosexual. So, I would expect that someone who chooses to become a woman would do so with the hopes of attracting men. If one is attracted to women, and wishes women to be reciprocate, why not remain a man?

I guess I could understand a gay guy wanting to be female so as to be attractive to a wider audience of men. I don't get changing genders and in so doing reducing your pool of potential partners.

Can anyone explain that to me? Don't just tell me that it's complicated and I wouldn't understand, or that I'm an insensitive [insert pejorative of choice]. I already know!

And then there's the other question. Another thread on this board is dedicated to TS-cock size with photos, most of which look Photoshop to me. But nobody has posted on this thread. So, am I to believe that nobody is interested in the real-deal, or has anything to say about real TS experiences? That's odd, I think.

 

[Tymeless]

Tymeless (Tiffany?): Your post raised some questions for me.

You said that you and many others live as lesbians. I don't get that! It seems to me that most of the world tends towards heterosexual. So, I would expect that someone who chooses to become a woman would do so with the hopes of attracting men. If one is attracted to women, and wishes women to be reciprocate, why not remain a man?

I guess I could understand a gay guy wanting to be female so as to be attractive to a wider audience of men. I don't get changing genders and in so doing reducing your pool of potential partners.

Can anyone explain that to me? Don't just tell me that it's complicated and I wouldn't understand, or that I'm an insensitive [insert pejorative of choice]. I already know!

And then there's the other question. Another thread on this board is dedicated to TS-cock size with photos, most of which look Photoshop to me. But nobody has posted on this thread. So, am I to believe that nobody is interested in the real-deal, or has anything to say about real TS experiences? That's odd, I think.

Being a TS has absolutely nothing to do with our sexual preference and everything to do with who we feel we are on the inside. I could care less about sex i mean yeah i want it and its fun but its not an important factor in my life. Changing genders has everything to do with body image mental and emotional well being and very little about sexual orientation. I'm not opposed to being with the right guy but i haven't met anyone thats close to being him yet, But there are a lot of women out there that i could see myself with and i'm downright attracted to women. Most of the bisexual ones will go both ways but a lot of TS end up getting raped our used by guys and the emotional scars are to great that they never give another guy a shot. So i guess i'm just not open to the option of guys just because of the horror stories i've heard of and the fact that i don't find a male physically attractive other then matt damon adds to it i guess.

 

[yevkassem72]

Being a TS has absolutely nothing to do with our sexual preference and everything to do with who we feel we are on the inside. I could care less about sex i mean yeah i want it and its fun but its not an important factor in my life. Changing genders has everything to do with body image mental and emotional well being and very little about sexual orientation. I'm not opposed to being with the right guy but i haven't met anyone thats close to being him yet, But there are a lot of women out there that i could see myself with and i'm downright attracted to women. Most of the bisexual ones will go both ways but a lot of TS end up getting raped our used by guys and the emotional scars are to great that they never give another guy a shot. So i guess i'm just not open to the option of guys just because of the horror stories i've heard of and the fact that i don't find a male physically attractive other then matt damon adds to it i guess.

Well, to be honest, I'm on the rebound myself and not up to any serious relationships with anyone anytime soon. Even though it would be convenient for me, vis a vis green cards and all. Divorce tends to make a man gun shy, and I'm going through a doozie of one (did I spell that right- I sometimes make embarrassing errors in English).

That being said, I don't see why a transsexual woman would be less eligible for a long-term relationship or even marriage, if that is legally possible. If you have chosen to be a woman, I think that makes you quite female. It also takes courage, a very admirable trait. That kind of honesty with self and courage is a great start for qualities worthy of love and romance.

As to sexual orientation, I can see why you'd find the assumption that transwomen are automatically interested in men frustrating as Hell. It's like saying that Female-to-Male (transmen?) transsexuals are automatically interested in women. It's like saying that I'm automatically gay or straight, based on my sex. So, really, you deserve kudos for patience in dealing with such stereotypes as calmly as you have. It's an inane cliche. The French side of me views logic as a very important thing, and this idea skips a logical step or two in pursuit of its conclusion.

 

[Tymeless]

Well, to be honest, I'm on the rebound myself and not up to any serious relationships with anyone anytime soon. Even though it would be convenient for me, vis a vis green cards and all. Divorce tends to make a man gun shy, and I'm going through a doozie of one (did I spell that right- I sometimes make embarrassing errors in English).

That being said, I don't see why a transsexual woman would be less eligible for a long-term relationship or even marriage, if that is legally possible. If you have chosen to be a woman, I think that makes you quite female. It also takes courage, a very admirable trait. That kind of honesty with self and courage is a great start for qualities worthy of love and romance.

As to sexual orientation, I can see why you'd find the assumption that transwomen are automatically interested in men frustrating as Hell. It's like saying that Female-to-Male (transmen?) transsexuals are automatically interested in women. It's like saying that I'm automatically gay or straight, based on my sex. So, really, you deserve kudos for patience in dealing with such stereotypes as calmly as you have. It's an inane cliche. The French side of me views logic as a very important thing, and this idea skips a logical step or two in pursuit of its conclusion.

I appreciate your kind words. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you can find happiness and some conclusion from you divorce.

 

[Etoile]

Indeed, one's gender identification and sexual orientation are two completely different things. They are not related to each other in the slightest. Gender identification is about who you are inside. No matter who you are attracted to, I can't imagine anyone continuing to live a lie to themselves just so the dating pool would be greater. It's much more valuable to love yourself for who you are than to find somebody who loves who you're not.

 

[none2_none2]

Tymeless (Tiffany?): Your post raised some questions for me.
...
I guess I could understand a gay guy wanting to be female so as to be attractive to a wider audience of men. ...

I had to make a comment on this part of your statment as I don't follow your logic here. What good would it be to attract a larger number of guys, if , for instance, you like to fuck men, but you've cut off your penis? Nothing against dildoes, vibrators, fingers, etc..., but none of those things would feel as nice as having your penis in a guy.

I knew a non-gay guy who once thought jail was cruel to str8 guys, but that gay guys would love it. I asked him if he was to move into a nursing home, would he feel good because the majority of residents are of the opposite sex. He said no, so hopefully he understood that there is more to sexuality than what gender your attracted to and how many you can get it on with.

It doesn't matter how MANY people you attract, but rather if you enjoy their company AND if you enjoy sex with that particular person (and hopefully that person enjoys you back). So for me to have sex with a guy who either didn't want to get fucked, or I couldn't fuck because I no longer have a penis, would be less exciting than having sex with a eunuch.

 

[Tymeless]

I had to make a comment on this part of your statment as I don't follow your logic here. What good would it be to attract a larger number of guys, if , for instance, you like to fuck men, but you've cut off your penis? Nothing against dildoes, vibrators, fingers, etc..., but none of those things would feel as nice as having your penis in a guy.

I knew a non-gay guy who once thought jail was cruel to str8 guys, but that gay guys would love it. I asked him if he was to move into a nursing home, would he feel good because the majority of residents are of the opposite sex. He said no, so hopefully he understood that there is more to sexuality than what gender your attracted to and how many you can get it on with.

It doesn't matter how MANY people you attract, but rather if you enjoy their company AND if you enjoy sex with that particular person (and hopefully that person enjoys you back). So for me to have sex with a guy who either didn't want to get fucked, or I couldn't fuck because I no longer have a penis, would be less exciting than having sex with a eunuch.

You and Etoile both have great points on this one!

 

[Etoile]

I knew a non-gay guy who once thought jail was cruel to str8 guys, but that gay guys would love it.

Oh my, that's just crazy. Why would anybody love being raped? That's what anal sex in prison is, it is usually done to demonstrate power, not because either of them enjoys anal sex. Yikes.

 

[yevkassem72]

I appreciate your kind words. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you can find happiness and some conclusion from you divorce.

Thank you, very much. Yes, I try to have an open mind about such things. And one doesn't have to gay or bi (though I am starting to notice an attraction to some kinds of men) to appreciate transwomen, since they aren't guys at all, right? I mean, not really guys.

As for prison, that is just silly. I mean, you might be gay or bi, but still find a particular man unattractive. Not to mention that anal rape in prison is generally quite rough and unlubricated. That can do some serious damage to the rectum, such as tearing, and that also increases the risk of infection with HIV from tainted blood.

 

[Tymeless]

yeah anal rape can't be fun for anyone involved other then maybe the rapist!

 

[KABUKISTAR]

Thank you, very much. Yes, I try to have an open mind about such things. And one doesn't have to gay or bi (though I am starting to notice an attraction to some kinds of men) to appreciate transwomen, since they aren't guys at all, right? I mean, not really guys.

It really depends on what you're attracted to in people. I mean, you could have a transwoman who is pre-transition and doesn't really look any different from a bio-guy, and is pretty much only different in how they identify.
Then again, you might have one who's been on hormones for years and had enough surgery to make their body look almost completely like a biological female.

 

[none2_none2]

I knew a non-gay guy who once thought jail was cruel to str8 guys, but that gay guys would love it.

Oh my, that's just crazy. Why would anybody love being raped? That's what anal sex in prison is, it is usually done to demonstrate power, not because either of them enjoys anal sex. Yikes.

Oh this comment wasn't about rape or the potential for rape... Rather the guy thought it was "cruel and unusual punishment" to be confined to a place where the gender you were attracted was absent. (He would have said the same thing if we were talking about the military (before women were allowed to serve). I'm sure he would have also said the same about a monastery.

Whereas for a gay guy in jail has so many of his gender around him 24/7. Thus he thought it would be paradise for us. It was a very stupid comment, so that is why I told him about the nursing home.

 

[Etoile]

Oh this comment wasn't about rape or the potential for rape... Rather the guy thought it was "cruel and unusual punishment" to be confined to a place where the gender you were attracted was absent. (He would have said the same thing if we were talking about the military (before women were allowed to serve). I'm sure he would have also said the same about a monastery.

Whereas for a gay guy in jail has so many of his gender around him 24/7. Thus he thought it would be paradise for us. It was a very stupid comment, so that is why I told him about the nursing home.

Ah...yes, very silly then.

 

[yevkassem72]

It really depends on what you're attracted to in people. I mean, you could have a transwoman who is pre-transition and doesn't really look any different from a bio-guy, and is pretty much only different in how they identify.
Then again, you might have one who's been on hormones for years and had enough surgery to make their body look almost completely like a biological female.

I like smooth bodies, I think. Male or female. Smooth, soft, hairless bodies. They're a major turn-on. Believe me, there are some women who are too hairy for me, but quite a few are not. However, I think that the French armpit hair thing is exaggerated. It's not as rampant or disgusting as people claim.

 

[Wanntry]

None2_none 2 said:

What good would it be to attract a larger number of guys, if , for instance, you like to fuck men, but you've cut off your penis? Nothing against dildoes, vibrators, fingers, etc..., but none of those things would feel as nice as having your penis in a guy.

Presumably, people who elect to have transgender M-to-F surgery don't particularly want to fuck, rather they prefer a feminine role. So, what's your point?

I knew a non-gay guy who once thought jail was cruel to str8 guys, but that gay guys would love it. I asked him if he was to move into a nursing home, would he feel good because the majority of residents are of the opposite sex. He said no, so hopefully he understood that there is more to sexuality than what gender your attracted to and how many you can get it on with.

Well, the jail story is silly (because, as I understand it - having never been there - jail is pretty unpleasant place, no matter what your orientation), but as for preferring a situation where one is surrounded by members of the gender one finds attractive, count me in! Be it a nursing home (more pleasant than jail, I think) or a singles bar. That is the reason gay-guys go to gay's bars, lesbians go to girl's bars, and straights go to conventional singles' bars. If "bars" offends you, substitute a venue you prefer. The point is, when looking for a date you will (if you're smart) go where there is the most number of people that you are likely to find attractive, and who will be attracted to you in return.

It doesn't matter how MANY people you attract, but rather if you enjoy their company AND if you enjoy sex with that particular person (and hopefully that person enjoys you back). So for me to have sex with a guy who either didn't want to get fucked, or I couldn't fuck because I no longer have a penis, would be less exciting than having sex with a eunuch.

Then, I'd say you're not a good candidate for gender re-modelling, but how relevant is this to what true transexuals think?

And, yes it does matter how many people you attract, because that is how you find Mr or Ms Right. Finding the right person, whatever your orientation, is a huge marketing exercise where you date to eliminate the toads until you find the person you want to spend time with.

So, does anyone have input on the dating experience with transexuals?

 

[Tymeless]

I've never dated a transexual. I am only speaking in what i want from a partner as a trans. Most of my trans friends i have made feel the same way as me they want someone that will treat them like their chosen gender and will treat them like a person not a sexual object but a couple do want to be treated like a porn flick hints why the she-male porn market exist. Most trans also do it not for sexual reasons sex isn't all that important to mtf trans generally for one our sexual desire drops big time to eventually no existent once we are on hormones there are things people can do to arouse us and get us interested but we are more interested in intimacy and a connection on a personal level then just sex. I hope that helps you.

 

[Wanntry]

... we are more interested in intimacy and a connection on a personal level then just sex. I hope that helps you.

Yes, it does help. This is a fascinating and complex subject.

I did not realise that hormones nullified the sex drive. Men are horny 24/7 because of testosterone, and that's the same hormone, in smaller amounts, that causes female sex drive. I realize transexuals take estrogen (and other stuff, I'm sure), so is there no testosterone left?

Does the lack of sex drive bother you much? A lot of us are pretty well consumed with sex, as this board demonstrates.

As you are more interested in intimacy, do you find women attractive because of their generally more nurturing, empathatic nature, rather than sexually?

How about 'female-from-birth' lesbians? Many seem to be pretty damn horny, only for other women, not men. We all want some intimacy, but for many sex is integral to that and an expression of it. Do 'regular' lesbians (having a hard time with adjectives here ) feel the same? (i.e. a primary desire for personal connection and intimacy and a reduced need for sexual gratification)

 

[Tymeless]

Yes, it does help. This is a fascinating and complex subject.

I did not realise that hormones nullified the sex drive. Men are horny 24/7 because of testosterone, and that's the same hormone, in smaller amounts, that causes female sex drive. I realize transexuals take estrogen (and other stuff, I'm sure), so is there no testosterone left?

Does the lack of sex drive bother you much? A lot of us are pretty well consumed with sex, as this board demonstrates.

As you are more interested in intimacy, do you find women attractive because of their generally more nurturing, empathatic nature, rather than sexually?

How about 'female-from-birth' lesbians? Many seem to be pretty damn horny, only for other women, not men. We all want some intimacy, but for many sex is integral to that and an expression of it. Do 'regular' lesbians (having a hard time with adjectives here ) feel the same? (i.e. a primary desire for personal connection and intimacy and a reduced need for sexual gratification)

most mtf transexuals have testosterone blockers in their hormones so that the hormones can be more effective. Sex isn't out of the question it just becomes something we don't care about at all. That being said i'm not starting hormones for a couple more days but i'm looking forward to a decrease in sex drive. At 25 years old i'm hornier then i was ever at 18 i'm jacking off 5 times a day right now and i hate it but i can't quit getting aroused so i can't wait for the decrease in sex drive because i don't care about sex in the least i mean i want someone to love and have sex with but the key word being there love. I don't go out looking for someone to fuck for one night never have never will. Most of the girls i ever develop feelings for were friends for a long time before they were ever girlfriends.

 

[Etoile]

How about 'female-from-birth' lesbians? Many seem to be pretty damn horny, only for other women, not men. We all want some intimacy, but for many sex is integral to that and an expression of it. Do 'regular' lesbians (having a hard time with adjectives here ) feel the same? (i.e. a primary desire for personal connection and intimacy and a reduced need for sexual gratification)

Hmmm...what's the difference between "female from birth" and "regular" lesbians? Most lesbians were born female, there are some who were born male and have become (or are becoming) female...so I'm not sure what the difference is!

I'm kind of both I guess. I have a desire for both personal connection/intimacy AND sexual gratification.

 

[Tymeless]

I'm not saying i don't want sex because i do but i want it in a loving relationship not any other way.

 

[Gi_Venus]

Tiff the transgendered vary, one MTF friend of mine is into men only and does not desire the full change. It is true that 9 out of 10 MtF transgendered end up with female partners, I think that comes from a desire for intimacy and love. I have heard repeatedly of disatisfaction from other pre- op transexuals of the lack of love in their relationships with men. Myself, I seek connection, intimacy and love....sex is wonderful too but that comes of intimacy and connection. I am oriented towards women mainly, I have been too afraid of men to experiment too much.