To the Economic Minded Type Political People.

[FGB]

If we stop and think about it this country is in a bit of a state...

Our infrastructure needs massive repairs and replacement.

We have so many laws and regulations they tend to render the few helpful ones almost worthless or so expensive to fulfill they appear to be insane.

As for the IRS, well can you say runaway bureaucratic nightmare?

Between Federal, State, Local & Sales Taxes some people have to move to a different State.

Some people as they get older have to turn all that they work for over to the state to be able to live a minimal resistance thus robbing their children of their inheritance and NO the estate doesn't get a refund if they only live six months.

We continue to feed our enemies and fuck our friends.

The opportunities for over minimum wage jobs in this country has been flying away since the early eighties with factories and industries.

Large Multinational Corporations buy up the stocks of our national companies and shut them down using the USA's copyrights patents and trademarks & machinery that is shipped overseas to where they have a governmental and political advantage.

Our educational system is crap. We can't even decide which Restroom to tell a boy or girl which restroom to go onto.
Never mind how to teach them to think for themselves. And as far as giving them the tools in a Public School to accomplish this just makes one want to weep or curse.

And as for Higher Education... God has left the buildings on that one ad so has common sense.

So.

How DO we fix it and where do we get the money because we are probably going to have to raise taxes even after we rearrange a few things.

What say ye? After some thought please.

and what did I leave out?

 

[Ms_Ann]

NAFTA not working fast enough for ya.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

You lost me at "we".

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

<BULLSHIT REMOVED>

How DO we fix it and where do we get the money because we are probably going to have to raise taxes even after we rearrange a few things.

What say ye? After some thought please.

and what did I leave out?

our infrastructure is fucked, our education system is fucked, we have too many morons worried about the IRS, doing away with min. wage, doing away with abortion, and bringing prayer back in school.

this country needs an overhaul, it starts with doing away with NCLB, bringing back vocational classes in schools, rebuilding our roads and a real rail system. that does mean raising taxes on the 1% (I doubt you'd notice it bro.)

Stew

 

[BotanyBoy]

our infrastructure is fucked, our education system is fucked, we have too many morons worried about the IRS, doing away with min. wage, doing away with abortion, and bringing prayer back in school.

Yea, only idiots care about the government coming and taking all their shit....

this country needs an overhaul, it starts with doing away with NCLB, bringing back vocational classes in schools, rebuilding our roads and a real rail system. that does mean raising taxes on the 1% (I doubt you'd notice it bro.)

Stew

You can take EVERYTHING from the 1% and it wouldn't be fuck all.

So it's going to mean raising taxes on a lot more than the 1%, those taxes will most likely wind up coming out of the end consumers asses disproportionately fucking the poor end of the income scale the hardest. That money never reaches the students, patients or general public and no amount of raising taxes is going to fix anything unless we address a number of these core problems. Funding is rarely the issue in this country. In fact if you look at most things the tax payers are getting so totally and thoroughly ripped the fuck off. From the military industrial complex to public education there is so much scamming.

Until we do something about that scamming, you're just advocating throwing more good money after bad....again........ and expecting them to do something with it other than hand it over to the cool kids club.

 

[coati]

FGB, the Constitution grants me freedom from your religion and its associated views on gender identification and religion in public education. You may think your mythology has a direct relationship to economics, but I don't.

 

[Conager]

FGB, the Constitution grants me freedom from your religion and its associated views on gender identification and religion in public education. You may think your mythology has a direct relationship to economics, but I don't.

No it doesn't. It prevents the federal government from establishing a national religion.

 

[Ms_Ann]

FGB, the Constitution grants me freedom from your religion and its associated views on gender identification and religion in public education. You may think your mythology has a direct relationship to economics, but I don't.

God invented Jesus so that Christmas sales can save the economy.

 

[Beco]

God invented Jesus so that Christmas sales can save the economy.

Um, don't say Christmas .....say.....holiday party, or Winter festival

 

[coati]

No it doesn't. It prevents the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Which is why we don't allow any one of these religions to dominate discourse in public education. If FGB wants to feature his religion in public school activities and policies, then it follows that the Satanists should also be granted equal time, according to the writ of not establishing a national religion. Shall we go down that road again? Or shall we sail to the New World to set up something that grants us freedom from a national religion?

Getting back to the topic of the thread, economics...

 

[Liar]

Um, don't say Christmas .....say.....holiday party, or Winter festival

I'll toss out Christmas in favor of Festivus if it is guaranteed to invole a healthy amount of pagan debauchery.

 

[Conager]

Which is why we don't allow any one of these religions to dominate discourse in public education. If FGB wants to feature his religion in public school activities and policies, then it follows that the Satanists should also be granted equal time, according to the writ of not establishing a national religion. Shall we go down that road again? Or shall we sail to the New World to set up something that grants us freedom from a national religion?

Getting back to the topic of the thread, economics...

Do you know more, or less, about economics than you know about the Constitution, its origin, and what it actually says?

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Fixing economic problems are simple. People produce stuff and services the rest of us want. Until 2008 every economic depression-recession-panic in America ended when new, popular technologies came along. New technology replaces old industries. But no new technology has come along since the iPhone.

Education...learn to do stuff the world wants. I stress this to my grandchildren. My 19 year old grandson is home for college break. In a week or so he has already made his first parachute jump from an airplane, in a day or two he'll be certified. Leave the sluts to the niggers and make yourself useful.

 

[FGB]

our infrastructure is fucked, our education system is fucked, we have too many morons worried about the IRS, doing away with min. wage, doing away with abortion, and bringing prayer back in school.

this country needs an overhaul, it starts with doing away with NCLB, bringing back vocational classes in schools, rebuilding our roads and a real rail system. that does mean raising taxes on the 1% (I doubt you'd notice it bro.)

Stew

Dude. Enough of the 1% shit.

If you took away all of the wealth of the one percent you speak of You couldn't even ...I venture, repave the major Highways in Texas!

Oh, it sounds good but who are you going after next?
We have big problems that require thought out, reliable planning and some kind of sustainable budget.

 

[Conager]

Just for fun, I looked it up.

The last two states to eliminate their official state-sponsored religion were Massachusetts and Connecticut. Congregationalism remained the established religion until 1818 for Ted Kennedy's State and 1833 was the last year for Joe Lieberman state to have an official state-sanctioned religion.

As far as as any national interference in anyone's educational system that's completely modern contrivance.

We did not get away from England to separate Church from State.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Since 1968 we've taught out kids to be niggers. If you cant raise a nigger up, bring the whites down,

 

[Conager]

Far as I can tell there is no amount of money that's going to fix our quote-unquote crumbling infrastructure. Apparently all the concrete provided by cronies of well-connected politicians like Harry Reid and all of these highly skilled union labor required by the davis-bacon act is not enough to provide durable surfaces.

When repaving Federal projects in a right to work state there is absolutely no reason to be paying the same wages that you would pay if you had to hire union labor.

Going after bid-rigging with life without parole prison sentences might help a little.

None of it really matters- we've already spent the next several generations productive capacity on the past expenditures including obligations going forward into the future.

 

[FGB]

FGB, the Constitution grants me freedom from your religion and its associated views on gender identification and religion in public education. You may think your mythology has a direct relationship to economics, but I don't.

And as for you Dipshit. (who are you really anyway.)

I don't have a religion, it has me...as per God. Argue with him. You will find it almost impossible and if you do win you will regret it.

And it's real simple.

You got a Penis use the men's... you got a vagina use the women's.

If you have both or have changed, use the one you are dressed for and may God bless you.

It's not that difficult to skull out.i

"mythology has a direct relationship to economics" In your hatred for God and anything associated with him you are letting hatred think and speak for you.

I have no idea where you came up with that one...

 

[Conager]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/five-myths-about-church-and-state-in-america/2011/04/21/AF2SlBQE_story.html


From the right-wing, reactionary rag known as the Washington Post.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Far as I can tell there is no amount of money that's going to fix our quote-unquote crumbling infrastructure. Apparently all the concrete provided by cronies of well-connected politicians like Harry Reid and all of these highly skilled union labor required by the davis-bacon act is not enough to provide durable surfaces.

When repaving Federal projects in a right to work state there is absolutely no reason to be paying the same wages that you would pay if you had to hire union labor.

Going after bid-rigging with life without parole prison sentences might help a little.

None of it really matters- we've already spent the next several generations productive capacity on the past expenditures including obligations going forward into the future.

Federal projects pay Davis-Bacon wages.

 

[Conager]

Federal projects pay Davis-Bacon wages.

I understand that. Davis-bacon should not exist. Those jobs should go out for bid and whoever can do it the cheapest should get the job.

 

[coati]

Just for fun, I looked it up.
We did not get away from England to separate Church from State.

Some did. And they managed to get a clause in the Constitution so they would no longer live under an official State religion. If anyone tries to cram their religion down my grandchildren's throats at their public school, I'll certainly support what the Satanists did recently in insisting on the right to recite their rituals in the public sphere, such as in public schools and at governmental functions.

You can continue your internet search regarding fun facts about the State respecting the establishment of a religion, but it still has not convinced me that FGB's statement about getting God into higher education has anything substantive to do with economic development for the nation as a whole.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I understand that. Davis-bacon should not exist. Those jobs should go out for bid and whoever can do it the cheapest should get the job.

That's not what you said.

 

[coati]

And as for you Dipshit. (who are you really anyway.)

I don't have a religion, it has me...as per God. Argue with him. You will find it almost impossible and if you do win you will regret it.

In your hatred for God and anything associated with him you are letting hatred think and speak for you.

...

You can call me names, assume I hate God, and believe whatever you want. But don't push religious rituals in public education. Do it in your church or temple or synagogue, or at a private school.

 

[Conager]

Some did. And they managed to get a clause in the Constitution so they would no longer live under an official State religion. If anyone tries to cram their religion down my grandchildren's throats at their public school, I'll certainly support what the Satanists did recently in insisting on the right to recite their rituals in the public sphere, such as in public schools and at governmental functions.

You can continue your internet search regarding fun facts about the State respecting the establishment of a religion, but it still has not convinced me that FGB's statement about getting God into higher education has anything substantive to do with economic development for the nation as a whole.

None of what you say about their intent is even remotely true. Explaining to someone like yourself with such limited understanding through quotes from The Federalist Papers or actual debates from the minutes of the meetings held when these details were hammered out seemed like an exercise in futility so I thought I would point you to a liberal source telling you that you are wrong. I guess that doesn't help either since you're sure you are right.