Titanium Hood Piercings And My New Tens Unit

Chicklet

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:rolleyes:

Cute story. I won't waste your time. I'm the proud owner of a brand new tens. Got to use it for the first time last night (on my arm) I've seen them used on others before, even got to use the controllers on my PYL so that he could prove to me it wasn't scary ;) Seen it on genitals, legs, arms, etc. But when my PYL wanted to put it between *my* legs, I balked.

I have a titanium bar through my hood!

Although I really really do trust my PYL, and he's very experienced, and we can theorize what would happen with my piercing, I really don't want to launch into an experiment without knowing *exactly* what the result will or could possibly be.

He has misplaced (someone probably borrowed) his copy of Juice, and I'm stumbling on my search tonight.

Can anyone point me to some specifics or share experiences? :rose:
 
Did you check out the bdsm library that's stickied in talk? Their's quite a bit of information on electro play there.

And I AM SO JEALOUS. Me and K want to try electroplay LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE.
 
I'm also interested in the question. As soon an my morning tea kicks in I'll go looking for my copy of Juice.


here is a start....

Electrical Conductivity and Resistivity. The flow of electrons through a metal due to a drop in potential is known as electrical conductivity. The atomic structure of a metal strongly influences its electrical behavior.

Titanium is not a good conductor of electricity. If the conductivity of copper is considered to be 100%, titanium would have a conductivity of 3.1%. From this it follows that titanium would not be used where good conductivity is a prime factor. For comparison, stainless steel has a conductivity of 3.5% and aluminum has a conductivity of 30%.

Electrical resistance is the opposition a material presents to the flow of electrons. Since titanium is a poor conductor, it follows that it is a fair resistor.
 
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Chicklet said:
:rolleyes:

Cute story. I won't waste your time. I'm the proud owner of a brand new tens. Got to use it for the first time last night (on my arm) I've seen them used on others before, even got to use the controllers on my PYL so that he could prove to me it wasn't scary ;) Seen it on genitals, legs, arms, etc. But when my PYL wanted to put it between *my* legs, I balked.

I have a titanium bar through my hood!

Although I really really do trust my PYL, and he's very experienced, and we can theorize what would happen with my piercing, I really don't want to launch into an experiment without knowing *exactly* what the result will or could possibly be.

He has misplaced (someone probably borrowed) his copy of Juice, and I'm stumbling on my search tonight.

Can anyone point me to some specifics or share experiences? :rose:
First off, might I say congratulations on your purchase. I hope you have lots and lots of fun with your new TENS. And, might I say, it's a nice tory to have, if you can arfford it. Now, you might think of the different attachments that are made for the TENS,

But, to answer your question, if I were you, I'd remove the metal from your piercing before you hook up your TENS to your genitals. The metal doesn't conduct electrical current at the same rate as human tissue and you could damage your skin and the holes of your piercings, because they are so sensitive.

But, with the metal removed, you should be good to go. Just keep in mind any areas where metal is between the two conductors of the TENS, the current will be flowing through that metal, as well as through your body. It's likely, because your skin and other human tissue will have a lower resistance to the electrical current than metal, the metal will just heat up. It will eventaully burn your body where it touches. Can you say "ouch"?

So, nipple piercings, hood piercings etc...they will just get hot. It won't be instantanious, but it will happen, and by the time you feel the heat, you won't be able to remove the piercing soon enough. It will probably burn you, first. I can see that causing an additional problem, a secondary infection in just the areas you don't want it...in the piercing's holes.

Does this answer your question? Any other questions? Let me know.
 
Shankara20 said:

Electrical resistance is the opposition a material presents to the flow of electrons. Since titanium is a poor conductor, it follows that it is a fair resistor.

As DVS pointed out though, electricity run through a non-conducting metal tends to heat up rather quickly.

I can't speak from experience here, but I do have a bit of knowledge regarding electricity and conduction. Think of the burners on an electric stove top. :eek:
 
Yep, current and metal could very well equal a cooked dead clitoris. Might be tasty though!
 
WriterDom said:
Yep, current and metal could very well equal a cooked dead clitoris. Might be tasty though!

LMAO

Like a fried clam.

Add some butter, some salt & pepper.

Mmmmm...
 
RawHumor said:
As DVS pointed out though, electricity run through a non-conducting metal tends to heat up rather quickly.

I can't speak from experience here, but I do have a bit of knowledge regarding electricity and conduction. Think of the burners on an electric stove top. :eek:


When they used titanium tacks to hold my hernia repair in place I was concerned that I would have resistance heating problems inside my body when I used my zap zap toys - especially when placing one pole in my anus at the prostate and the other pole into my urethra - that gives the zap at about the area of the tacks. After some research I decided it was ok to still do the zap zap play once in a while. I am not aware of any problems so far, but I am still a little unsettled. I do remove my stainless steel jewelry if I'm going to be playing very close to them.
 
I saw an electricity demo once. Two of the volunteers had metal piercings. The Dom used, or at least appeared to use and talked about using, those piercings in the demo which surprised me. That guy was seriously into mind fucks though.
 
Shankara20 said:
When they used titanium tacks to hold my hernia repair in place I was concerned that I would have resistance heating problems inside my body when I used my zap zap toys - especially when placing one pole in my anus at the prostate and the other pole into my urethra - that gives the zap at about the area of the tacks. After some research I decided it was ok to still do the zap zap play once in a while. I am not aware of any problems so far, but I am still a little unsettled. I do remove my stainless steel jewelry if I'm going to be playing very close to them.

My guess is, in short bursts, it'd be okay. It'd probably take a bit to heat it up - some constant zapping, maybe.
 
WriterDom said:
Yep, current and metal could very well equal a cooked dead clitoris. Might be tasty though!

good thing my clit isn't what's pierced :cool:
 
Shankara20 said:
When they used titanium tacks to hold my hernia repair in place I was concerned that I would have resistance heating problems inside my body when I used my zap zap toys - especially when placing one pole in my anus at the prostate and the other pole into my urethra - that gives the zap at about the area of the tacks. After some research I decided it was ok to still do the zap zap play once in a while. I am not aware of any problems so far, but I am still a little unsettled. I do remove my stainless steel jewelry if I'm going to be playing very close to them.

Holy cow. I never even thought of where my hernia (umbilical hernia) was repaired. Hm. I don't recall what they used to repair it. Hm.
 
DVS said:
First off, might I say congratulations on your purchase. I hope you have lots and lots of fun with your new TENS. And, might I say, it's a nice tory to have, if you can arfford it. Now, you might think of the different attachments that are made for the TENS,

thanks DVS, for everything in that post. The new toy was actually a gift from a chick who won it in a raffle, and just didn't like it. whee!

So, now I'm curious, what attachments do you suggest??
 
Shankara20 said:
When they used titanium tacks to hold my hernia repair in place I was concerned that I would have resistance heating problems inside my body when I used my zap zap toys - especially when placing one pole in my anus at the prostate and the other pole into my urethra - that gives the zap at about the area of the tacks. After some research I decided it was ok to still do the zap zap play once in a while. I am not aware of any problems so far, but I am still a little unsettled. I do remove my stainless steel jewelry if I'm going to be playing very close to them.
Depending on where these tacks actually are, could make a big difference. *Unless they are in the direct path of the current flow, they might not even be touched by the current.

All metal will heat up, when electrical current is passed through it. It's just a characteristic of metal. The human body heats up, too. In the extreme, such as in an electrocution, human flesh will burn and the fluids within will reach their boiling point. But, this requires a large amount of current...much more than our basic electrical toys produce.**

And, because we can feel, the pain threshold will be reached far before the tissue's heat threshold.

**If you are prone to play for long periods of time, it is also possible to change tissue consistency at low current levels. Long periods of play with a violet wand or TENS localized on one specific area of the body can cause water blisters to form.

This is not that common, but it is a sign of extreme duration. The body will heal itself, but for your information alone, this is a result of heat in the cells and the body's fluids reaching their heat threshold.

When dealing with electrical current and the human body, you need to know certain things.

1) The human body is largely made up of water and other fluids.
2) These fluids are good electrical conductors.
3) These fluids also act as a cooling agent, with low current flow.
4) Time is one factor to think about when dealing with electricity.

Time computes directly with the amount of electricity being produced. A large amount of electrical current will take a very short time to cause damage to the body.

A small amount of electrical current will take a much longer amount of time to cause damage to the body, but if the current is applied for a sufficient duration, damage will be the result.

The fluids in the body act as a natural cooling agent, so at low current levels, no real heat is felt. But, electricity being what it is, it will act somewhat like a slow cooker on the very small cells in the body.

This is not anything to be concerned about, really. It is just a characteristic of electricity. But, for those who enjoy extreme play sessions, and you are REALLY into localized stimulations where you don't move the conductors for long periods, these water blisters can errupt.

Just keep in mind what is happening and what causes them, so you know you have gone beyond the basic play and into the more extreme, in relation to time.

In the future, if you enjoy long sessions, it might be wise to move the conductors around a little bit, to change the path of the current though your body. *All forms of electricity take the shortest route from point A to point B, and the path is very narrow.

It won't deviate very far from the straightest line possible. If you don't move those conductors a little more often, that short current path you enjoy is going to get a lot of use.

It doesn't take much to change the path. Just moving the electrodes 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the previous position can be all that is needed. This repositioning sends the current thought another group of cells, allowing the others a little rest. LOL.

It's not possible to give a stopping time to work for. Because it depends on how high the TENS dials are set, as well as how long the conductors are left in one position. These water blisters forming and/or maybe a distinct tingling sensation for a period of time after the current has been turned off would be what to look for. As with many things, your mileage may vary.

Keep in mind, I'm talking to the extreme players, here. The rest of you will more than likely never experience this type of thing. Electroplay is full of wonderful sensations. Just understanding some of the basics will allow you to explore these sensations safely, even into the extreme.

Sorry. When it comes to some things, I tend to ramble. Electricity and play seems to be one of those things.
 
Chicklet said:
thanks DVS, for everything in that post. The new toy was actually a gift from a chick who won it in a raffle, and just didn't like it. whee!

So, now I'm curious, what attachments do you suggest??
Oh, my. She wasn't into electoplay, huh? Too bad for her and really good for you. There are a lot of nice attachments, but it mostly depends on your pocket book and your kinks.

Do you know if your TENS is single pole or double pole? If it's a double pole, the sensations that can be created are double the fun. And there are attachments made just for the double pole TENS, but they aren't cheap.

Actually most attachments aren't cheap, I'm sorry to say. But, there are some nice anal plugs that give you quite nice sensations at different settings as well as a vaginal shield that does the same in the pussy area.

If you have the double TENS, it might be interesting to look at what's available for it. But, if you have a single TENS, there's nothing shabby about it, either. There are anal and vaginal attachments for the single pole, that will be sure to tickle your fancy.

And, if you just get the conductive pads and experiment with placing them in various areas of your lower body, you can have a lot of fun finding just the right spot with just the right level of intensity.

Plan on a certain amount of time to learn what works best for you. Tweaking things here and there can be fun. And, if you happen to have a trusted friend to run the controls, being tied up and helpless seems to compound the sensations for a lot of submissives. The highs and the lows that the TENS creates can be very interesting, when someone else is at the controls.

God, I'm getting horny just talking about this. :p
 
DVS said:
Plan on a certain amount of time to learn what works best for you. Tweaking things here and there can be fun. And, if you happen to have a trusted friend to run the controls, being tied up and helpless seems to compound the sensations for a lot of submissives. The highs and the lows that the TENS creates can be very interesting, when someone else is at the controls.

So far what experimentation I've done I've done myself, with my PYL's experienced supervision. I'm sort of scared to hand the controls of unfamiliar sensations to anyone else the first time.
 
DVS said:
Sorry. When it comes to some things, I tend to ramble. Electricity and play seems to be one of those things.

great info, thanks - no problem with a ramble, this is one of the two areas of expertises I defer to you with no problem at all.

:kiss:
 
Chicklet said:
So far what experimentation I've done I've done myself, with my PYL's experienced supervision. I'm sort of scared to hand the controls of unfamiliar sensations to anyone else the first time.
I understand your concern. But, even going slow is fun.
 
Shankara20 said:
great info, thanks - no problem with a ramble, this is one of the two areas of expertises I defer to you with no problem at all.

:kiss:
I think I might know the other area. You know...it's nice when the two are put together. Oh, wait...you know that already. :p
 
So, DVS, any suggestions on which sites to check for attachments?

apparently I have 'access to two double units'
 
Chicklet said:
So, DVS, any suggestions on which sites to check for attachments?

apparently I have 'access to two double units'

*pulls up a chair and listens for reply*
 
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