Tips for Married-Older-Woman/Younger-Man stories

[angela146]

I just read another example of the "19-year-old stud gets seduced by 30-something married woman" story.

OK, boys, speaking as a 30-something married woman who has had her share of 19 year old studs, can I give you some tips about how this might actually happen if I were going to sneak into your bedroom some night?

[BTW: my "share" of 19-yo studs is two - three if you count my husband but that was back when I was 19 myself].

Tip #1: I am a lot more experienced at having sex than you are. I'm married for Christ's sake! I've fucked - and been fucked by - my husband, oh about 2,000 times by now.

Tip #2: I'm not going to be fumbling around trying to figure out what to do. I know exactly what angle it needs to be at in order to slide inside me if I'm on top of you. I know how to guide you into me if you're on top. Remember, I've done this before.

Tip #3: I'm not going to be surprised by the fact that you are almost ready to come by the time I get my mouth on you. I know that. I had to deal with it for the first couple of years of having sex with my husband. I'm either going to make you come a little and then get you hard again - or - I'm going to use a cock ring or something to keep you from coming in the first place.

Trust me on this, you can get hard about two minutes after you come the first time. I'll flash some breast in your direction or maybe go down on you for a few seconds but you'll be plenty hard for me the second time, and *that's* when I'll take you inside me - maybe.

Tip #4: My needs are going to get met, one way or another. In fact, I'm going to be sorely tempted to tease you and make you work for it. I might have you go down on me or use your hands or something *or* I might pin you to the bed and ride you for a good long time (after you come once or twice).

The bottom line is that I can probably manipulate you into giving me what I want without you even realizing that I'm playing you like a cheap fiddle.

Tip #5: That's not to say that I don't have insecurities. Prime among them is my body. I'm afraid that you're going to take one look at my sagging breasts and flabby thighs and loose all interest in me.

So... I'm not going to drop my robe instantly unless I have a nightgown under it. I'm going to show you my body a little at a time just to be sure that you actually like what you're seeing. You definitely aren't going to get to see me naked until you've complemented me a dozen or so times and reassured me that I'm the most beautiful woman you've ever seen - which, by the way, I won't believe anyway.

Tip #6: I haven't used a condom in years - unless I make a habit of having affairs on a regular basis. Married women, as a rule, don't use condoms with our husbands. We are on the pill/patch/ring or maybe something else and we aren't worried about STDs when we have normal married sex.

In fact, I might not be using any kind of contraception. My husband might have had a vascectomy, my tubes might be tied, or we might be trying to get pregnant.

If I have condoms, it's either because I'm not monogamous or because I snuck them out of my son or daughter's bedroom. If "I've never cheated on my husband before" you'd better have one in your wallet.

Tip #7: Unless I have an open marriage, I'm going to be worried about people finding out. Even if I have an open marriage, I will be extra careful if you're my nephew or my daughter's boyfriend or my daughter's friend's brother.

In any of those cases, I'm going to make sure to cover your mouth when you come because I'm afraid of you screaming. I'm also going to make sure that you have an incentive not to talk to anyone. That incentive will probably be to give you the illusion that I might do this again some time if you behave yourself.

Tip #8: Yes, it's possible that I might give you a blow job and not want anything in return. That would probably indicate that I have a fulfilling sex life with my husband and I'm just having fun being nice to you. But in that case, I'm going to indulge myself in the pleasure of wrapping you around my little finger. And I am most definitely going to be dominant.

Under no circumstances am I going to feel privileged to give you a blow job just because you're 19 and have a penis that's eight inches long.

Tip #9: And speaking of penile length... Yours is *not* the biggest one I've ever seen. I may lie to you and pretend to be impressed but, no, your delusions of grandeur are just that: delusions.

Tip #10: In all likelihood, you are nowhere near as good at making love as my husband is. Even if my husband is a terrible lover, I've probably got a man on the side who takes care of my needs. I'm in my 30's. Women in their 30's find ways of getting their needs met.

If I don't already have a steady supply of good sex, I might take you under my wing and teach you how to please me *but* you aren't going to be that good until you've had some lessons and you've learned how to give me what I need.

Summary: Having sex with me will probably be the best thing that has ever happened to you. I'll make sure of it so that you don't tell my husband (or your mother).

I'll enjoy it too. I may even enjoy it more than you do, but not because you're such a fantastic lover. I'll be enjoying the sinful pleasure of taking advantage of a boy who's just old enough to not be jail bait. My biggest pleasure will be in know that you will remember me for the rest of your life.

OK, that's all for right now. Maybe I'll have more later.

 

[Alessia Brio]

Love it!

 

[Pure]

excellent stuff, angela.

of course it's addressed to those who aspire to 'erotica.' those peddling or consuming your standard 'porn fare', like McDonalds hamburgers are not going to be interested. that's a shame.

why, because possible 'consumers'/readers of what you propose would include women in their 30s and 40s, instead of mostly 18-30 year old males.

if i may add one thing to your list: there is at least one area of 'mesh' between the two, although the younger man may take a while to learn it. this prototypical 30ish/40ish married woman--in all her variety-- is capable of being much less clingy; she can see it for what it is; IOW, the young male's worries about the woman seizing on him, insisting on a commitment, etc. while present, would in the ideal case, abate. in simple terms, she's not a 'husband hunter' as are many 20ish single women.

good job!

 

[EnglishGuy1982]

very intersting indeed


would love to hear more

 

[tanyachrs]

You're going to scare the poor things away. I don't agree with all this myself. At the least, I do stock condoms. Then again, I'm not married or cheating on anyone so perhaps my opinions here aren't relevent.

 

[angela146]

You're going to scare the poor things away. I don't agree with all this myself. At the least, I do stock condoms. Then again, I'm not married or cheating on anyone so perhaps my opinions here aren't relevent.

Ah, but the "not being married" part is a key ingredient as to why you might keep a stock of condoms and a married woman might not. Unless you are referring to being monogamous but not married.

 

[3113]

This is really fantasic, Angela. I think, in fact, that you should post it both in *Story Ideas* and *Story Feedback*

I think the most telling point is that the 30 year old woman is married in a lot of these stories. There are single 30 year old women, even those with little sexual experience and they *might* find a 19 year old with a bit more sexual knowledge (hey, some kids are having sex at 14 right?). But in the vast majority of cases, the 30 year old is going to have the upper hand.

And not only sexualy. She has a home, a job, life experience. She's got the scar tissue of past hurts--she's been through these arguments and certain things just aren't going to matter to her. It's going to be a lot harder for you to wound her than it is for her to wound you--unless she really lets down her guard. She has money and maybe powerful friends.

I know an unmarried 29 year old woman who had a relationship with a 19 year old she met on the internet. (shaking head) It was no contest, believe me. She called the shots and he was completely in her thrall. She started it, and she ended it. He got a lot of good sex, but not much more.

 

[Alessia Brio]

I think you've got a winning "How To" essay on your hands, here.

 

[angela146]

I think you've got a winning "How To" essay on your hands, here.

Thank you!

 

[TxRad]

From a very large or should that be long hindsight I remember the 19 and 30 scenerio. Although in my case it was 18 and 45. Angela is so right on most of her points but don't forget that the guy gets a lifetime of experience and good teaching in very short order. I know it's stood me good and i wouldn't have missed it for anything, even if it did end up breaking my heart.... Even that prepared me for later life....

 

[angela146]

This is really fantasic, Angela. I think, in fact, that you should post it both in *Story Ideas* and *Story Feedback*

Thank you!

I think the most telling point is that the 30 year old woman is married in a lot of these stories. ... But in the vast majority of cases, the 30 year old is going to have the upper hand.

...

I know an unmarried 29 year old woman who had a relationship with a 19 year old she met on the internet. (shaking head) It was no contest, believe me. She called the shots and he was completely in her thrall. She started it, and she ended it. He got a lot of good sex, but not much more.

Did he maybe gain some experience from the relationship that he would be able to use in his future relationships?

I guess part of my point in writing the original post is that these kind of stories can be written more realistically and still be an incredible fantasy for the young man involved - and the young male reader.

If the writers of these stories were to try to understand the motivation of an older married woman and try to see it from her perspective, they could write stories that would really knock the socks off of a young male reader.

Sure, the woman might take advantage of the man. But she might do it openly. She might be honest about it, telling him to lie back and enjoy it. Let's face it: 18 - 20 year old men are easy to please. It shouldn't take a lot of effort for her to make it the ride of his life.

There is a lot of pleasure for a woman in being a man's "first" or maybe his first "good one". She doesn't have to be naive nor does she have to be cruel, which in too many stories is exactly how she seems.

 

[angela146]

From a very large or should that be long hindsight I remember the 19 and 30 scenerio. Although in my case it was 18 and 45. Angela is so right on most of her points but don't forget that the guy gets a lifetime of experience and good teaching in very short order. I know it's stood me good and i wouldn't have missed it for anything, even if it did end up breaking my heart.... Even that prepared me for later life....

Exactly.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I'll try to remember that for anything like this that I may (will) write in the future. I think some of those ideas were already floating around in my head when I read other stories of the type, but I don't think I ever got around to implimenting any of them when I got around to writing my own stories. I'll have to correct that mistake next time.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

where were you when I was 19?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Angela didn't mention the all important "FAILURE TO SWOON" at the sight of a 6", 18 year old cock

 

[tanyachrs]

So are we talking about writing a story full of cliches and stereotypes or are we talking about a how-to? I'm sorry, but this reads to me like what you wish, not what it is. Granted I'm a 40 year old single woman, not a 30 year old married one, and I don't generally stoop as low as 19. I set my limit at 21. But I do this. A lot. It's what I do. And it's nothing like any of that.

First of all, young men are individual people just like all of us. Some of them are shy and inexperienced and some of them are not. Some of them have been around and a lot of them have done things I haven't (or hadn't). It's not like it was 20 years ago. Girls give it out pretty easy these days. There are things, like anal or spanking, that were taboo in my day and are SOP now. In fact, I have to warn new partners that I don't allow smacking, hair pulling, or name calling or I'm likely to get it. Maybe they're just doing what they've read/seen. I don't know. But that's another thing - they've read and seen a lot.

Some insist on condoms and bring them. Some hate condoms and I have to insist. (That's why I supply them. If I leave it up to them, I won't be getting any.) Some cum in five minutes and can get hard again five minutes later and some cum in 15 minutes and can get hard again five minutes later and some cum in 15 minutes and remember they left the oven on. Sometimes they're in my thrall and sometimes they get their "older woman fantasy" checked off and lose interest.

And if all you need to get yourself off is an erection and some dead weight, I envy you. It's not that easy for me. Nor am I a big fan of "teaching." I am not their teacher. I'm not their mommy. I'm not a receptacle and they are not a tool.

I wish these stereotypes would stop getting bantered around because when I'm with a younger man I want to be me, not a placeholder for a generic older woman fantasy they got off the internet.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I don't agree about #8: Using condoms with long-term partners is pretty common over here, what with the health scares associated the various forms of female contraception.

That aside, I was pleased to see that besides that, my one Mature story attempt accords with all 9 of your other sensible comments.

And the reason these things happen? (And they do, all the time) Well, read the story.

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=59306

 

[angela146]

where were you when I was 19?

8th grade.

 

[angela146]

I don't agree about #8: Using condoms with long-term partners is pretty common over here, what with the health scares associated the various forms of female contraception.

Wow, that surprises me.

Back when contraception was an issue for me, I did have problems with the hormones in the pill. But I don't think I would have considered condoms as a viable option for regular use with my husband.

I should make a disclaimer on this particular issue: My current method of contraception is an infertile husband. We've been trying to get pregnant for more than four years and have pretty much given up hope. So, I am out of step with "normal" married women.

We do keep condoms around for those occasions when we want to have fun with another partner but it happens rather infrequently. In fact, we have to keep an eye on the expiration dates.

In other words, I would fall under the category of non-monogamous wives.

 

[3113]

So are we talking about writing a story full of cliches and stereotypes or are we talking about a how-to? I'm sorry, but this reads to me like what you wish, not what it is.

And it reads to me as a *RESPONSE* to someone else's cliches and what THEY wish...

As for what is, I don't know about you, but I've got plenty of real life examples that match up exactly to Angela's. So I'm afraid that her points don't seem even a bit like what she "wishes" rather than what is. They are very much WHAT IS.

If, on the other hand, you're pointing out that such points aren't ALWAYS and every time what is, then, sure. Of course they're not. Yes, 19 year olds are individuals and so are 30 year olds. But she wrote this as a response to a story, one evidently filled with shallow cliches (or do you think it likely that you would swoon at the sight of an 8" cock?).

If the writer of this story (and of others in the same vein) had given the characters layered background and realistic personalites, had made them people rather than cartoons and the sex realistic, I doubt Angela would have felt moved to say that the story lacked versimilitude, or pointed out what was more likely to be true.

 

[3113]

Essay! Essay!

I second the vote that you turn this into an essay and post it.

 

[cloudy]

And it reads to me as a *RESPONSE* to someone else's cliches and what THEY wish...

As for what is, I don't know about you, but I've got plenty of real life examples that match up exactly to Angela's. So I'm afraid that her points don't seem even a bit like what she "wishes" rather than what is. They are very much WHAT IS.

If, on the other hand, you're pointing out that such points aren't ALWAYS and every time what is, then, sure. Of course they're not. Yes, 19 year olds are individuals and so are 30 year olds. But she said she read that this is a response to a story she read, a response that says that the shallow cliches in this and other such stories do not ring true.

If the writer of this story (and of others in the same vein) had given the characters layered background and realistic personalites, had made them people rather than cartoons, I doubt Angela would have felt moved to say that the story lacked versimilitude, or pointed out what was more likely to be true.

Hear, hear!

and I also vote it be turned into an essay.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

In other words, I would fall under the category of non-monogamous wives.

I actually had a doctor bring that up that this week...

she asked, "Are you monogamous?" I just kind of looked at her and said, "I'm married." She nodded, and said, "Yes, but are you manogamous?"

Ohhh...

silly me.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

There is a small but blindingingly obvious point to me made here: 99.99% of people here don't want realism, so the list is actually more like a how to NOT.

And while I daresay there may be a few readers are probably too dumb or disturbed to tell reality from fantasy, I'd say most readers are more or less aware of the reality in the situations like this, but choose to escape it on this site.

 

[tanyachrs]

(or do you think it likely that you would swoon at the sight of an 8" cock?).

Oh, I'd swoon at the sight of an 8" cock. I'm quite pleased when I stumble on 7. I've never had a young man ask me to, or seem to expect me to, swoon over his cock. But if it's worth swooning, I most certainly will. Part of the service I provide as an older woman is physical worship. I'm with them largely for the hot bodies so there should be something about them worth admiring and I find it and admire it. Frankly, I've complimented more middling biceps than middling cocks, and that goes for older guys too.

Not having read the story in question (I didn't notice it was explicitly said which story that was), I can't say whether the story or Angela's tips were more accurate. I'm just saying that I've had a very full range of older woman/younger man relationships and they come in a lot of flavors. Not every young guy is going to find what she described appealing and they should understand that there are older women who are not what she described.

OK, here's my take. As an older woman:

1. I'm not afraid to do things that would "demean" me in a relationship of equals. I'll wear lingerie, meet you at the door with a drink, rub your back, and feel up your puny biceps.

2. I'm not looking for love or marriage or children. We don't have to be exclusive but I'd like to be regular.

3. I'm really horny and if you can do it again, I'd love to.

4. I think you're the most gorgeous thing I've ever had my hands on. I want you to be my toy. Lay back and enjoy.

5. I'll give you a suggestion for improving your technique once. If you don't take it well, I won't do it again. I may or may not continue the relationship. Depends how cute you are.

6. Don't assume I'm willing to do what girls your age are willing to do. Check. On the other hand, I'm probably not as easily shocked as girls your age. Check.

7. I pick up all checks but it's OK if you don't want to go out. As I said to one woman who was bragging about how well her boytoy dressed, "What does he have clothes on for?"

8. As good as all that sounds, you'll probably screw it up by not being respectful of my time. Don't be an idiot.