Time to say goodbye

echoes_s

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Here is the reason. Look at these poems and the authors please, in the order of when they were listed in a thread or posted first and you tell me what I have done... :(

all of a sudden passion suddenly...


quote: not bad, not too many stolen words in this one
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Originally posted by Liar
As if wine,
crisp when you wore that smile,
would dull the spendor.

Tender tendrils,
half past one and counting
every second you were more
than breath and arms away,
rolled from my mind,
to catch you,
you knew how,
caress you blind,
and make you mine.

As if wine,
I drank the sight.

As if time,
stretching out before us
could evade the clash
of you and I,
a gorgeous crash
of sweat, song,
scream and sigh.

As if time
could pass us by,
a faint hope cast aside,
we filled the night.

As if gold,
could never shine that bright,
I traced a finger,
lingered on a starlit patch,
the destination
of a milky way glow,
six hundred lightyears old,
and realised...

...a sun gave up her life
for me to revel in your skin
and see that sight,
the almost hidden jolts
of tranquil heartbeats
deep within.

As if gold,
I bathed in you.
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echoes_s wrote:

For every swirl and splash
upon your tongue
every burst of taste
upon each tiny bud
that I could touch you

the warmth of your look
blushing me
one way or another
your eyes electric
catching me on fire
and I glow
wanting to reach you
without taking a breath

to join two into one
lightening meshing
cast from the clouds
striking fierce
cracking, splitting
exploding shrapnel
and splinters of wood
catching seared
charred instantly
from the heat
of our bodies colliding
yet so soft

almost as whipped through air
that feeling
of not touching a thing
and nothing, you
just lightness
and the wind
flowing through
and around
touching every pore
and nerve ending
gasping awakening

and if that is gold
then all is gold
even the smile
I first see forming in your eyes now
and the tug of one muscle
so deep
twitching your lip
another breath of air
and you want to lick it
to feel more...

just a little
and I would tempt more...

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quote: a few more stolen words in this :(
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Originally posted by Angeline
Funk groove
improve my kinesiology
move bone deep hip
to hip slip shift switch
in and out of time mind
my p's my cues slide right
into the twang of blues
that basic instinctual beat
that rhythm uses spark
to turn a flicker into flame
and blow a saxy fuse
all tenor toney hollow sweet
to cruise me to completion
cut my rug dance my feet
these dogs still learn
how to wag a few tailfeathers
melted off the ice twice neat
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echoes_s wrote:

oh yeah
he fused his sax
into tail feathers of peacocks
fluffed then swooned
i relaxed
as he crooned
and blues blazed
as hues of crystallized rain
draped honeyed hives
sticky ooze
sweet autocruise

baby blow your breath
into blowing my mind
as dogs bayed
by the bayou in everglades
twanging swampy breeze
tinged release
croon baby croon

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quote: this one is awful and unforgivable, but Seattle forgave me when I realized and pointed it out to her, which I didn't deserve
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Originally posted by SeattleRain
goldilocks
jumpin on beds
breaking chairs
never finding the right
fit

fit into sleep

squeeze into
stretch down

in a room everyone has
black shoes
some shine some buff
not mine
something like nothing on toe

try again

with the new sofa delivery
singing rat animatronic cardboard pizza
playdate and metabolife
all watch and wonder why
my breast still belongs to a 12 month old

my breast belongs to no one
with no one

drown in a sea of poets
with bubbles that sink
steel that floats over waves
and hovering in between
the current

dressed in parka
dodging anchor and
what is the goddamn name for that thing
you use to shoot
animals
in
the
ocean


still

grind me down
whetstone and metal
cut in two

the shape will never hold
I seem to melt the mold

wishing I actually
existed
somewhere
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echoes_s wrote:

We all exist somewhere
sometimes harpooned
in a rut neverending
sinking bubbles blown slowly
as we rise
only a reason to hang on
to our last bit of breath
until we reach the surface again
gasping afresh
thanking anything around
that steel floats
because it is there for us
and who wants to buff shoes
and spit polished hues
like everyone else
to be ground into a mold
digging like moles
melded metal is the same
poured into cast
and shaped like society
is supposed to be
but what is society
in this sea frame
of floating anchors
and broken poets
who spit words like polish
shining brighter
than any black patent leathered shoes?

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and the last I just figured out, and wonder how many more I have done injustice to, stole words...:(

first posted 04/21/2004 in the one tit bar and grill post by The Fool...

It could have been any bar I’d walked in
It was hers
The sultry sounds of a torch singer
pressed hip to a piano
playing slow burn blues
long into the night
Dark eyes
red lips
Long slender arms
Curves well defined
by an evening dress
Her voice captivating
song sung slow
song sung low
captivating
telling us all about the love
she’d lost
she’d left
Her hips swayed to the beat
I set glued to the seat
as our eyes met
and once again I felt lost
in the lust
of a slow burn sullen summer night
so long ago
She bent down to pick up a rose
I’d thrown at her feet
Held breathless by that unconscious pose
Of one bare nipple on display
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on all of a sudden passion suddenly...

echoes_s wrote:

inspired by The Fool on the One Tit Bar and Grill post...thanks

Have you ever tasted a rose?

Have you ever tasted
a rose petal
run its satiny tips
across your lips
purring from scent
velvet whisper
and felt the nip
of it's thorns
red slight rip
from first layer
of skin
leaving a blossomed welt
begging a kiss
a burned lick
heated sip
of your breath
swaying more?

That alone is enough
to cause sultry
voice to lower
one more octave
one more note
breathless captivate
as she traces her curves
with this rose
and braces hip
against the piano once more
blazing blue
song sung low
sullen pose
staring at you
daring mellowed
return of your eyes
a glance
undenied
bold declare
captured snare
the first move...

see a pattern unfolding here? I do and I am very ashamed of this

I am sorry everyone, all who I have done wrong to and all who I have fooled, I even fooled myself for a while. It just took a look at The Fool's "Torched Singer's" poem to open my eyes to what I have been doing. A form of plagurism in black and white.
My poems will be deleted and I will not be back, nor participate in any other on line forum.
A valuable lesson has been learned, but too late.
All my best please. :(
 
Echoes? C'mere and lemme spank ya! :devil:

Someone (I can never remember whom) said there ought to be a Nobel Prize for plagiarism, lol. The reason I come here is inspriation (well and I *like* you guys a lot), and I get inspired by reading the poems submitted here. Part of being inspired is seeing phrasings/words that I then work into my poems. You should have a poll on this because I think everyone does it. If you assume that writing is communication, dialogue between writer and reader, then naturally we're going to pick up on each others' ideas and words. Anyway it really is true that there's nothing new under the sun. Even if you don't try, you're going to bump up on someone else's words sooner or later.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this imho. It's all part of being creative. It's really not stealing. So don't go. Please? You're so good.

:heart:
 
Hey, echoes...

Every word in the English language has been used... repeatedly. I'm guessing the same is true of virtually every phrase. And especially in a forum like Passion Suddenly, it's to be expected. We go in there and write what we are inspired to write. Sometimes it's a phrase in another poem that inspired us.

Poetry is not in the words, or the phrases, that others have used in the past. It's in your own uniquely personal vision and voice.

I'd be willing to bet you could go into Shakespeare's works and lift two or three word phrases and paste them together into a poem unlike any Shakespeare even would have considered writing. Does that mean you owe Shakespeare an apology for stealing his words?

(I'd better go apologize to Webster. I think pretty much every word I ever used appeared there first.) ;)

The lesson here is not to leave. If anything, it's simply to be aware, and you obviously are.

But if you're determined to be gone, it's been a pleasure, and we'll miss your voice.

:rose:
 
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Echoes_s

Here is a quick idea for a quick solution to your seemingly guilty conscious:


If you are playing with other peoples words and ideas to a level that you think it is not "yours" just keep it on the passion post and don't post it to the "New Poems."

The passion thread is just for that, no apologies necessary-- I mean dang, even Angeline I think said something about "great balls of fire " LOL ouch

and I do not think that um what the heck is his name-- you know, that Lewis guy won't be complaining-- it is a playful posting place. I know I have had L.Cohen all over the place in the passion thread that goddamn "famous blue raincoat torn at the shoulder" comes into my writing ALL the time, but I extract it and try to come up with my own way of saying what he was saying-- if I am going to "publish" it somewhere. The passion thread is kind of like a group blog poem thing, so what the hell, write what you want, it is supposed to be stream of consciousness....

it is a compliment if you bounce your own ideas around with other people's ideas. I mean when else do words and ideas get to come out and play with each other like that?

You have SO MANY original ideas, it would be a shame to keep them from us.

You are inspired by people here, we are inspired by you--

(and everything the others said before I got here)

Stay, learn, play, write!

there are plenty of places in this world that would be upset by this, but THIS is not one of them... Stay and learn with us, okay?


Anna

:heart:
 
on second thought

um I went back and read your examples again Echo, and I had a hard time finding the stolen words except in one, and that was already worked out (I don't think Seattle even felt there was anything to forgive)

you are fine girl

quit beating yourself up

you have talent in your OWN right goddamn it

and I am sure if you look hard enough you will find your words in other's work as well.

like you said, you do it without even realizing it, and it is good of you to offer credit when you DO realize it--

I mean, it isnt like you are posting an entire Pablo Nerudo poem or anything lol

I just can't let that go!

Anna
 
Echoes you need to be spanked, but it's not for plagarism. I certainly don't feel like you have "stolen" something from me. We all use each other for inspiration and ideas. That fact that I inspired you to write a mirror poem thrills me. In your PM you had asked a certain specific question regarding why I changed one of my poems. If you will let me, I will explain why I did so. It had nothing to do with what you wrote.

Hugs and Kisses


Fool
 
See? It's not just me! Everyone feels this way. I also wanted to mention that one of the things I do when I write is try to build word plays in that very often are plays on quotes, sayings, things from literature or music that appeal to me. I do it cause it amuses me (I'm weird, I know). But it's my style--part of the way I write. Should I stop? I think my writing would be diminished if I couldn't do it.

Sorry girlfriend. You know I love you, but you're wrong on this one. Better get your butt back here.

:kiss:
 
echoes_ the whole ides of the "Sudden passion" thread is just that - if a previous poem sparked something then so be it.

Inspiration comes from many sources, just the fact that you are sensitive to possible plagiarism makes me feel you're being a tad TOO senditive now.


Can I spank you too?

:D


Don't you dare go.
 
errrrrrrrrrr
one of the other places I used to post was a board where you'd take a verse or two from the previous post and build on it


if anyone is accusing you of " plagiarism" they need to pull their head out of their ass
this is akin to jazz and riffing and inspiration and spontaneity
don't listen to the fuckin' meat heads
listen to the poets who say
STAY
:D

ok??


great googley moogley
pass the tylenol
amen
fuckers
:rose:
 
*G* more spanking...this place has gone to hell.

;)

I agree with everyone echoes_s. The only way you wouldn't be influenced by other writers was if you didn't read and if you didn't read then you wouldn't be able to write. Words we like stick with us and as writers we want to use them. Nothing wrong with that at all, imo.:rose:
 
Tathagata said:


if anyone is accusing you of " plagiarism" they need to pull their head out of their ass

IS someone doing that? I say - name names!

Enough of this tip-toeing around the nasties of this world. OUT the suckers.

....and once again - echoes, stay!
 
lol, first you have me blubbering, then laughing...

it's gotta be stress or
{dire need for a really good spanking} :p

...ok, I am relieved it is not plagiarism.
I was mortified when I saw a comment saying excellent choice of words with steel floating and bubbles sinking, and I was only repeating what Seattle said, but in a different meaning (god if this makes sense...:confused: )
My first thoughts were, they were Seattles words and I was repeating them, don't give me the credit please...oh no what have I done?
I think too much
then thought and reflected more, searched more, gasped...and tried to spank myself, but it just isn't the same {sighs}

yes yes yes, please spank me, one errmm, begins to miss it :rolleyes: :devil:

never thought I would beg to be spanked :eek:
 
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Tristesse said:
IS someone doing that? I say - name names!

Enough of this tip-toeing around the nasties of this world. OUT the suckers.

....and once again - echoes, stay!

Yeah! We can be mean again! Wait. I don wanna be mean anymore. :confused:
 
Angeline said:
Yeah! We can be mean again! Wait. I don wanna be mean anymore. :confused:

I think being mean to the meanies is okay.


There's no evidence - so far - that it was a deliberate accusation. I'm just rolling my sleeves up just in case.


:heart: (see, I gotta heart too?)
 
Angeline said:
Yeah! We can be mean again! Wait. I don wanna be mean anymore. :confused:

No meanies aloud or allowed.....Just naughties.....:devil:
 
Tristesse said:
IS someone doing that? I say - name names!

Enough of this tip-toeing around the nasties of this world. OUT the suckers.

....and once again - echoes, stay!


no no, no one has accused me of anything except me :rolleyes:

it's just how things played out in this messed up slush brain

{echoes sits and stays}

want me to roll over? :devil:

shake paws, errr hands? :heart:

wag my tail...end? :p
 
echoes_s said:
no no, no one has accused me of anything except me :rolleyes:

it's just how things played out in this messed up slush brain

{echoes sits and stays}

want me to roll over? :devil:

shake paws, errr hands? :heart:

wag my tail...end? :p


*Settling back down and licking hackles back into position.*

Okay then - if you say so, echoes.

Yes - roll over and let me scratch your belly - oh wait - I'm still in cat mode


Never mind. :D
 
Tristesse said:
IS someone doing that? I say - name names!

Enough of this tip-toeing around the nasties of this world. OUT the suckers.

....and once again - echoes, stay!

stop changing your AV dammit


:D
 
echoes_s said:
no no, no one has accused me of anything except me :rolleyes:

it's just how things played out in this messed up slush brain

{echoes sits and stays}

want me to roll over? :devil:

shake paws, errr hands? :heart:

wag my tail...end? :p

Speak!

(well, write....)
 
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