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Does this poll indicate the true mission of Islam? Despite all the verbal handjobs from all types of sources that Muslims are peace loving people. Their history does not lie, their actions do not lie. Will we see a holy war between the West and Mideast? Will it come to a twenty megaton overlapping salvo to make peace by conquest?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An overwhelming majority of Muslims do not believe Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States and disapprove of the U.S.-led military campaign in Afghanistan (news - web sites), a major survey showed on Wednesday.

Despite news reports 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudis, only 18 percent of those polled in six countries said they believed Arabs carried out the attacks, according to a Gallup poll published in USA Today.

Many blamed Israel or the United States, the paper said, buttressing anecdotal evidence of a huge gulf between the West and Islamic countries over the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (news - web sites).

Just nine percent said U.S. military action in Afghanistan was morally justified, while 77 percent said it was morally unjustified. The United States targeted Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda network, which it accuses of masterminding the attacks, and the Taliban militia, their erstwhile Afghan hosts.

Commenting on the poll, President Bush (news - web sites) said the United States needed to do a better job promoting itself.

``There is no question that we must do a better job of telling the compassionate side of the American story,'' Bush told reporters on a visit to Charlotte, North Carolina.

He cited the example of North Korea (news - web sites), where most citizens of that country were not aware that the United States donated 300,000 tons of food each year to help the starving.

``It is essential for us to not assume that the kindness of the country is known and so we have to do a better job of telling the story,'' Bush said.

In what it called possibly the most challenging project in its history, the Gallup Organization found residents of nine mainly Muslim countries viewed the United States unfavorably by a 2-1 margin, CNN said in its account of the poll.

A total of 58 percent of those surveyed had unfavorable opinions of Bush, compared with 11 percent with favorable views, CNN said.

The findings were not immediately made public by Gallup.

Poll respondents overwhelmingly described the United States as ``ruthless, aggressive, conceited, arrogant, easily provoked, biased,'' USA Today quoted Gallup Poll Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport as saying.

Gallup said it carried out 9,924 face-to-face interviews in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan and Morocco in December and January.

About half of the world's Muslim population lives in those nine countries. Not every question was asked in each nation, CNN said.

Results were based on the unweighted total of all the interviews, with no statistical adjustments to reflect each country's population. Margins of sampling error ranged from 2 percentage points in Pakistan to 4 percentage points in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait, USA Today reported.
 
Hmmmm

Could it be they don't like us because we run around the world championing human rights and holding our Constitution on high proclaiming our love for freedom and democracy but then easily roll it up and put it on a shelf when it comes to our rampant need for oil? Giving a nod and a wink to the oppressive governments they live under and in one case coming right out and deposing a popularly elected leader and installing a brutal tyrant who happened to be more sympathetic to "our needs".

Those ruling in Saudi Arabia are just a fatwa or two this side of the Taliban when it comes to oppression yet we smile and clap each other on the back and call them friends...Same for most of the other Arabian nations.

We are johnny on the spot when the mujahedeen are fighting the evil russkies but when the dust clears and there is nothing left but ruin we say "Thanks...see ya."

Just exactly what did we win by helping them kick the Soviets out, hmmm? Freedom for their people? Yep, the Taliban and the other warlords were a wonderful carefree bunch of peaceniks weren't they?

Seems more like it was just an exercise to feed Ronny Ray-guns commie ass kicking fantasies.

You take your dog and let it crap in someone else's backyard too many times, don't be surprised if a shovelful comes flying back over the fence.

What about our history (Christian history)? We have quite a bit of blood on our hands. Does that mean that we should wage war on Christians? Our history doesn't lie. If we go by past behaviour it would seem we should fear the Christians just as much as the Muslims.

I go along with George on this one. We need to do some serious PR work.

* I read the whole story in USA Today*
 
Of course they don't like Americans... we decide to wage war on an idea... not even a specific group of people, but something that is situationally defined... we move in, blow the shit out of a country or two, get rid of the current government, and put in place a government that's friendly to our desires... we take it upon ourselves to decide what's best for an entire country, based on our western ideas, completely disregarding the fact that they don't hold the same values and ideas.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have taken military action, but I'm pretty sure that we'd feel the same was as them if suddenly the Palestinians decided that they were going to blow us off the map because we are friendly with Isreal.

I don't, however, understand how their non-support of our military actions means that they don't want peace. If you could clarify that point for me, I'd appreciate it.
 
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