Three story ideas.

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Mr_Hobo

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So, three stories I thought I would share. I get these kinds of stories constantly. I am always thinking of new scenarios.

There are a lot of complexities of the writing that I wanted to discuss here. But before I do so, I wanted to drop these stories to further explains those issues. So say that I had a problem with writing a certain part of a story due to the sudden realisation it was not realistic, as an example. I might not follow up with that second post. Or I might drop those misgivings after these story ideas. But I thought I would drop some ideas as an introduction.

The first story is young people. All of them are young. In their twenties ish. University age. After a night out with a friend group. A guy and his best friend go home with their girlfriend. The guy is an interesting and sensitive/ creative guy. Not bad in bed. Not a small penis. But definitely missing the animalism that some men have (so women get bored after a while! They like him at first but get bored of his sensitivity). His best friend is a high testosterone, highly muscled player that sleeps with a lot of women. The women is a blonde bombshell. On the drive home the best friend teases the antagonist and the girlfriend, despite herself, jokes along with him. The protagonist sees where this is going and when the best friend walks ahead after the drive, he does try and stop the girlfriend. But she assures him that she loves him etc. Once they are in the house after joking around, the blonde, despite herself, a behaviour that she really doesn't intend. Is turned on and the jokes turn to penis size and performance. The best friend is very big on his own size being big and comparisons happen. The blonde starts sucking off the best friend and then the best friend beats up and ties up the protagonist. The girlfriend has sex with the best friend on top of the protagonist and a sadistic streak shows itself and she strangles her boyfriend just a little during the act.

The second story. The best friend rapes the protagonist and his sister, who is gorgeous. Watches. It is partly pushed by his sister that has a sadistic streak, a rage at her brother for unknown reasons.

Third story: Socialite very hot woman in University. Not the blonde bombshell. But a brunette about 5'6. Highly sexed. Slightly aggressive sexually and unlike many women. She has a guy on the side that kind of wants to be with her for more. But she is just about the sex. Her friend group bullies the protagonist a little and the side guy tries to say hello to her in bars and things. But the men in the friend group tease him and beat him up a little. The girl orgasms while sleeping with her side guy after he has been bullied by her group.

The third story, I would have once thought is the most unrealistic in terms of lustful things that women would actually do, be generally inclined to. But, I do not think that anymore. In the high variability of life there are simply unexpected things I have found.

I have quite a lot of writers block over these concepts. I wonder if I am meant to be writing these stories at all. In the second story. I wrote a good deal of it. Then after the best friend goes out to take a shower I just knew that the sister and the best friend would not relate to each other because she would be too narcissistic. I have a need to reach for a level of realism that is unreachable perhaps. I recognise some suspension of the normal ethical rules and fears is necessary. But I do want these things to be things that women are at least inclined to do. (I'm not too worried about the male side of the equation!)

This is why there is such an escalation in the first story. A lot of pieces need to be in place for it to happen. A lot of things to make it desireable to the woman. Including just a jokey, lust filled, stimulation. Perhaps linked to alcohol and/ or drugs.

Several other blocks. One is that I simply don't have female intimate company at the moment. (It's not that I never have, I don't have any now). So I can't run these ideas by women and capture things I just don't understand about them and their drives. For instance, women are very scared of things in general, so they are inclined towards naughty secrets and cheating more than cheating in front of their boyfriends. I have noticed huge contradictions, as we all know about. Like, a lot of guys are into humiliation and dominance. And a lot of women like cheating on their boyfriend and do do humiliating things. But if a guy says to women that do these things he is actually into that, their reaction is often "Ew".

I have found that women will often do these cuckolding sorts of things more if the "bull", as such, pushes it. Because that's the turn on for them. It also, on a primal level, might mean they are protected, I suppose. Women don't really like humiliating that much I don't think. But they do like serving the alpha and going along with degraded things for that reason. And sometimes suddenly in the moment they are turned on with a guy being beaten up or something, even if they would not push it or know that this turned them on beforehand.

Third, is that I don't know if people will read them. Not that that matters too much. I might show it to potential partners to quickly accomodate them to these fantasies. And women take to literary porn. Fourth. Is that a lot of these things would be so severely traumatising that I need to accomodate that and I am not sure I have the skills to do so. Also, I would like things to end positively for the protagonist, even though that doesn't look like an option.

These things have been going through my mind for years so I just thought I would post them here and see what people think. If anything.
 
Several other blocks. One is that I simply don't have female intimate company at the moment. (It's not that I never have, I don't have any now). So I can't run these ideas by women and capture things I just don't understand about them and their drives. For instance, women are very scared of things in general, so they are inclined towards naughty secrets and cheating more than cheating in front of their boyfriends. I have noticed huge contradictions, as we all know about. Like, a lot of guys are into humiliation and dominance. And a lot of women like cheating on their boyfriend and do do humiliating things. But if a guy says to women that do these things he is actually into that, their reaction is often "Ew".

I have found that women will often do these cuckolding sorts of things more if the "bull", as such, pushes it. Because that's the turn on for them. It also, on a primal level, might mean they are protected, I suppose. Women don't really like humiliating that much I don't think. But they do like serving the alpha and going along with degraded things for that reason. And sometimes suddenly in the moment they are turned on with a guy being beaten up or something, even if they would not push it or know that this turned them on beforehand.
I'm not motivated enough to actually do this line by line, but I really want to add a whole bunch of "citation needed" in here. Beyond that, the phrase "a lot of" means less than it sounds like. A thousand people in a small town is a lot. A thousand people around the country is next to nothing. A lot of people also don't do any of those things you're saying.
Third, is that I don't know if people will read them. Not that that matters too much.
If you post them here, people will read them. There are a lot of readers on this site. Two industrious AH posters, 8letters and Actingup, have done a lot of math about how people view, rate, and comment on stories in several different categories. I think your stories would make the most sense in the Fetish category. The average number of views there is lower than in some categories, but still measured in thousands.
I might show it to potential partners to quickly accomodate them to these fantasies. And women take to literary porn.
I would show it to someone after they already are your partner, already are comfortable with you, and the two of you have a basically good sex life and are looking for ways to spice it up. (And if you're looking for advice on getting to that point, this isn't the forum for it, sorry.)
Fourth. Is that a lot of these things would be so severely traumatising that I need to accomodate that and I am not sure I have the skills to do so.
That's up to you to decide. Sorry.
 
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There are a lot of these girlfriend humiliates nice guy with a supposed alpha male. Few of them are well written. Your observation about trauma shows that you are aware of the problem. If your girlfriend cheats right in front of her man there is trauma. There is little alternative to him either walking out on her or revel in the humiliation, no matter how well one writes it.
I explored the conflict in this story: point blank.
 
I'm not quite sure how to answer that comment about 'a lot of'. I do live in a town known for it's degeneration, very left wing, a lot of drugs, a lot of orgies. I have known personally a lot of cheating happening and... obviously. Women tell me these things when they see my reaction to them telling me they treated some poor guy absolutely terribly is an erection. They even look guilty if I am happy about it sometimes because they know if I am turned on by it then it must be bad.

The best friend/ bully character is based on a real person I know - my best friend for several decades. None of the information on him has been changed yet. Although, I would want to change certain things to increase his attractiveness to the girls in the story - and make them cross boundaries they wouldn't normally. By adding loads of money as an example. He has done a lot of these things. Like, sleeping with girls the day before their first dates with other guys and such.

Some information that is good to collect is things like street interviews. I once saw a girl reveal that she had slept with her fiances best friend and her ex boyfriend and he didn't know. Also, some reddit subforums women have revealed really, really, surprisingly nasty things. But of course my 'data set' for women behaviours is not in the thousands. I am not studying that area academically and that is an unreasonable standard.

I don't know if I misunderstood your point here. I do feel a bit defensive at that comment. I am lacking a bit with my discussing this stuff with women. But I have been around this area enough to collect a lot of information.

Appreciate your comments on the other three points.

There is little alternative to him either walking out on her or revel in the humiliation, no matter how well one writes it.

Yes, I know this. This is another snag. The protagonist is based on myself. It can't be otherwise, I am not a skilled enough writer and I don't think I have the emotional empathy to actually really understand others. The trouble with that is that people are kind of frightened of me. I just have to look at people the wrong way. If I get angry and "feel" like I am going to kill them, (not that I ever would or even could, I am very sheltered middle class). But if I look at people and feel angry at them they often start shaking around me and things. Even muscular men. Including that best friend I mentioned.

There was a girl who did cuckold me when I was in my early twenties. But as I have gotten older people are simply afraid of me. For no logical reason. In my early twenties I was deeply idealistic of women. I tried to psychologise everything and thought women were angelic. So perhaps if my character was that age I could make it possible.

But yeah, people would not cross me and if they did, then I probably would make them pay. So it is a hard thing to write into a story properly. I also would exit any bad situation very quickly and would body language read people very easily to find the truth of things. Which I have done successfully before.

I figure I just have to change enough of the surrounding details to make these things possible. You can see why I struggle to write these stories. It's like a have some sort of computer in my brain that very specifically insists on the validity of a certain virtual reality model in my head which is uncompromising. I have written a story before with a girl from my University time who was married to me and starting to get up to naughty stuff in the story. But then the character decided she didn't want to run around being secretive and that she wasn't in love with my character. No cheating sex. Just a signing of divorce papers.

So perhaps I won't be able to write these stories at all.
 
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