Those IMPLAUSIBLE & IMPOSSIBLE cellphone calls

[Bad_Doggie]

For me, the most frustrating thing about this is that common sense will never be able to prevail. Once someone has it in their mindset that the government did this, then it doesn't matter how much evidence you throw at them - they'll always find some other minor technicality and use that as incontrovertible evidence that it was a government plot. That's why it's like a cult/religion - rational argument doesn't enter into it. We'll still be talking about this in fifty years' time because we will never be able to explain every last minutiae of the events of that day. And even if we do, the conspiracy theorists will just ignore it or claim that it's a cover-up and carry on repeating the same discredited stories, like the buildings being controlled explosions or the "FACT" that all Jews stayed away from work that day.

I am genuinely surprised to see LN still repeating the controlled explosion line; I thought that the fact that steel is weakened at a much lower temperature than its melting point was now understood and that the "truth movement" would accept that its logic that a 500-megaton building could only collapse at the steel's melting point and not earlier is utterly flawed. But it's the same warped logic as always: because the buildings fell like buildings under a controlled explosion, therefore it was a controlled explosion. Flawed logic. This just demonstrates that they'll believe anything they want. Another highlight of the Conspiracy Files programme was the guy behind Loose Change claiming that Popular Mechanics (the first scientific journal to systematically debunk the conspiracy theories) only knows about "tractors and things". This coming from a self-confessed drop-out. But that's the blinkered reality in which these people operate: a respected, 100-year-old scientific publication of engineers and mechanics has no idea what it's talking about, while a small group of 21-year-old dropouts with a high-speed internet connection and some video-editing software has the true insight into the events of that day. Do me favour.

Oh, by the way how many?

Woof!

 

[Lovelynice]

Are people in this docu; engineers, scientists, coroner, people living in Shanksville, ...

That's a typical bullshit excuse. Sorry but it doesn't work. As for the people in Shanksville; many of them were threatened by the FBI and told to shut up. Despite this, around fifty witnesses have continued to say things which at the very least imply that Flight 93 was shot-down. The evidence on the ground supports them. The coroner, by the way, said he saw no blood and repeated this assertion, then suddenly shut-up about it (another visit from the FBI?).

 

[Lovelynice]

For me, the most frustrating thing about this is that common sense will never be able to prevail....

Here's some commonsense.

When somebody makes a claim that is IMPOSSIBLE, then they are LYING.

When the same somebody is known to REPEATEDLY LIE on most, if not all occassions, then they have NO CREDIBILITY.

Seen any steel-framed tower buildings fall straight-down into their own footprint due to fire lately? No?

How about a scientific study showing that cellphones can MAGICALLY make successful 25 minute long calls from passenger jets flying six miles up at over 450mph without an onboard cellular basestation (technology which didn't exist before 2004)? No?

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

For MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS you shills have never been able to answer this.

None of you have ever shown there was enough energy for a gravitationally driven collapse of WTC 1, 2, and 7. That, little boy, means that gravity alone could not provide the energy to make steel-frames collapse STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own bases against their own structural resistance and through themselves.

If you believe otherwise, then please show a mathematical or computer simulation that successfully simulates the collapses themselves of all three WTC buildings WTC 1, 2, & 7.

I already know that you can't, because nobody has ever succeeded in doing so. All that you idiots have shown have turned out to be liars and frauds. Afterall, no steel-frame tower building has EVER collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN through their own structure before or since 9/11 except with CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS. If you want to claim otherwise, then back your bullshit with some photos and/video of such an event. I know you can't, BECAUSE IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.

All such collapses have been CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

WTC 7 wasn't hit by any plane.

and it's collapse was EXACTLY like any other controlled demolition. Explain that.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

- and WTC 1 & 2 both went STRAIGHT-DOWN just like controlled demolitions do.

3 steel-framed buildings doing on ONE DAY doing what can only be done with, and has only been done, with CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

No plane hit this building - it's a typical controlled demolition
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-11.gif

So is this...
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/wtc7/oslo_demo_clips.jpg

and neither did a plane hit this building...and it's an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/hsw_implosion.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_collapse_lg.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_cbs_lowman.gif


Just like this is a controlled demolition...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-9.gif

and despite your bullshit excuses, this one is an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/image023.jpg

and NONE OF YOU moronic lying government trolls has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness




So far, none of you morons have shown any video of an actual plane hitting the Pentagon. Gee, wonder why? Can't find any video from all those CCTVs that shows an actual PLANE????

It's only been FIVE YEARS!

What's wrong, dear? Another one of the shills bullshit claims that has NOTHING TO BACK IT?!

It must be pretty embarrassing that all you have to show INSTEADOF A REAL VIDEO is this crappy thing which doesn't show a plane!"

http://h1.ripway.com/ken_from_dublin/pentagon_cctv.gif


I already mentioned ages ago the reasons why the "plane parts" don't prove anything. They are not scorched, they are not burnt, they are not melted. They look just like old dirty plane parts from an old dirty scrapyard. There appears to be so little, that the quantity could be dumped from the back of a small truck. And surely if a HUGE PASSENGER JET hit the Pentagon then you can show videos of it to PROVE IT.

I'd like to see some SOLID EVIDENCE from a CREDIBLE, INDEPENDENT, and VERIFIABLE source about the other bodies definitely not being only workers at the Pentagon. Can you cite some? Please hurry and do so

 

[Lovelynice]

I'll make the pertinent part big so you can understand it.

Your witness.

Are you missing something critical, dear? isn't fascinating how you lot love to ignore what she ALSO STATED;

The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word "we're going to have to bring it down." - it couldn't be any cleaer, could it. Most people can read, but I guess you can't.

Gee, WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. deal with it.

 

[Lovelynice]

I re-posted my above post as you seem to have missed it, or couldn't find anything to cut and paste to answer it.

So how many people to you think? Does it make logical sense or has any feasible chance of ever being able to work in the real world?

Please answer.

Is that all? I guess you are one of those morons who think that everyone involved in the Manhattan Project knew every secret detail of it. A hundred thousand people managed to keep a secret then....but really, 99.99% knew fuck-all about it, because only those at the very top would need to know.

Same goes for the NSA, twice the budget, twice the number of people, and this agency was kept a total secret from the American people for FORTY YEARS.

I've seen some crazy, totally irrational excuses made up about window washers, cleaning ladies, and couriers having to be kept silent in some of the wacky excuses given by "Magical Arabs Did It and made Impossible Things Happen" conspiracy theorists. Others are only slightly more reasonable but still persist with excuses about "thousands of people" as if every single one of those people was going to know the whole story and every single detail of the entire operation. It stuns me that these fools think that anyone can take these excuses seriously, but idiots like you repeat this nonsensical rubbish like a magical mantra on every site.

Nobody except those individuals at the very top of each section of such a large scale operation would need to know enough that their knowledge would be dangerous, as far as I'm concerned. Like any major black op, there would be compartmentalisation of information. Everything on a "need to know" basis, and nothing more. Many are just going to be "following orders".

Hard to see how it would require hundreds of people to know the whole operation or even know that they were being used in any kind of conspiracy or illegal activity.

Well, your bullshit excuses just got shot-down - yet again. Just like last time, I bet.

 

[Lovelynice]

He has a BS and MS in Science, ...

More sour grapes again, catfish?

I believe that the point I made was that YOU (meaning catfish-the-moron) deliberately tried to avoid mentioning anything more than his Phd in Philosophy, when in actual fact, the man had decades of experience in scientific fields. That makes him a lot more qualified than some anonymous twit who calls himself "catfish"

You lose again.

 

[Lovelynice]

By the way, shills, I'm still waiting for you to provide photos/video of something other than INVISIBLE FIRES that are hiding from the windows in WTC 7. Please provide pictures to back your bullshit, showing VISIBLE INFERNOS and VISIBLE MASSIVE DAMAGE. Where are these pictures? Can you back your bullshit, or are you as useless at backing your claims as the USA government when they LIED about WMDs in Iraq?

 

[phrodeau]

Are you missing something critical, dear? isn't fascinating how you lot love to ignore what she ALSO STATED;

The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word "we're going to have to bring it down." - it couldn't be any cleaer, could it. Most people can read, but I guess you can't.

Gee, WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. deal with it.

Nope, doesn't mean shit, sorry. Hearsay evidence and all that.

Besides, suppose the "fire department" said this: "If by some chance the building doesn't collapse on its own, we're going to have to bring it down." Makes a big difference, doesn't it?

She was there, and she claims that there was "devastation". Many other witnesses claim the south face of WTC7 was severely damaged.

Where are the eyewitnesses claiming that the south face wasn't a smoldering ruin? You must have some, don't you?

 

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[Cap’n AMatrixca]

By the way, shills, I'm still waiting for you to provide photos/video of something other than INVISIBLE FIRES that are hiding from the windows in WTC 7. Please provide pictures to back your bullshit, showing VISIBLE INFERNOS and VISIBLE MASSIVE DAMAGE. Where are these pictures? Can you back your bullshit, or are you as useless at backing your claims as the USA government when they LIED about WMDs in Iraq?

Anything to defy logic, eh?

 

[Byron In Exile]

Anything to defy logic, eh?

There is no dark side of the moon, really...

Matter of fact, it's all dark.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

This is true in an uneclipseable sort o' way...

What amazes me is that in the whole record of jets slamming into skyscrapers they all fell straight down, which is really suspicious; anyone who's spent ANY time with a lot of legos knows they ALWAYS go sideways when you slam something into them like the plastic model hellcat you assembled last week, just set that suckah on fire and let it rip, don't worry about the drapes, 9-11, SHILLS!

 

[catfish]

More sour grapes again, catfish?

I believe that the point I made was that YOU (meaning catfish-the-moron) deliberately tried to avoid mentioning anything more than his Phd in Philosophy, when in actual fact, the man had decades of experience in scientific fields.

Sour grapes? Nahhh. As I pointed out, but you cannot grasp, his scientific credentials are fine for teaching the "Allegory of the Cave" or perhaps teaching freshman level earth science, but they don't make him an "expert" in any of the fields that have anything to do with the collapse of the WTC. And that pretty much sums up the academic credentials of all of your so called experts.

That makes him a lot more qualified than some anonymous twit who calls himself "catfish"

Using your logic, and in your case, I use the term loosely, why should anybody believe some unstable, paranoid "girl" with the name lovelynice?

You lose again.

Lose? Look, sweety, I have no delusions about changing your mind. You are paranoid, unstable and in need of some serious counseling by someone qualified in the field of psychiatry (just a tip, don't go to someone whose phd is in Art History, they probably can't help you) As I think Pookie said earlier, I am more concerned with someone who doesn't have the facts stumbling in here and thinking you have any fucking clue what you are talking about.

 

[Lovelynice]

Sour grapes? Nahhh. As I pointed out, but you cannot grasp, his scientific credentials are fine for ...

and as I pointed out, he's far more qualified to discuss the subject than you are.

And that pretty much sums up the academic credentials of all of your so called experts..

Bullshit.

That's all you have, is BULLSHIT. There are engineers and physicists equally sceptical of the USA government's lies about 9/11. I've already mentioned them. You already know of Steven Jones and others, so your crappy excuses are a load of nonsense - as per usual

 

[Lovelynice]

Besides, suppose the "fire department" said this: "If by some chance the building doesn't collapse on its own, we're going to have to bring it down."[/size] Makes a big difference, doesn't it?...

except that they didn't.

Pay attention, she STATED;

The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word "we're going to have to bring it down." - it couldn't be any cleaer, could it.

Particularly when you have such MAJOR FLAWS in your excuses (see below)

Still waiting for Pookie to back her bullshit, as I said earlier...

I notice that Pookie the fuckwit has again avoided backing her bullshit when she was caught out in a MAJOR WAY....

The McCormick Center in Chicago and the Sight and Sound Theater in Pennsylvania are examples of steel structures collapsing...

LOSE AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A TOWER BUILDING -- it was a low-rise building and nothing like a steel-framed hi-rise tower.

try again, dear.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/TR-068.pdf

The Kader Toy Factory also collapsed due to fires...

LOSE AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A TOWER BUILDING -- it was a low-rise 4-storey building and nothing like a steel-framed hi-rise tower..


Pookie's bullshit just dropped dead like a stone.

You're not exactly the brainiest of the bunch are you, dear.....

and yet again, you idiots failed to answer the following

WTC 7 wasn't hit by any plane.

and it's collapse was EXACTLY like any other controlled demolition. Explain that.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


and WTC 1 & 2 both went STRAIGHT-DOWN just like controlled demolitions do.

3 steel-framed buildings doing on ONE DAY doing what can only be done with, and has only been done, with CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

Your excuse fails.

Do try again, dear. It isn't difficult to use your brain.

No plane hit this building - it's a typical controlled demolition
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-11.gif

So is this...
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/wtc7/oslo_demo_clips.jpg

and neither did a plane hit this building...and it's an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/hsw_implosion.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_collapse_lg.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_cbs_lowman.gif


Just like this is a controlled demolition...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-9.gif

and despite your bullshit excuses, this one is an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/image023.jpg

and NONE OF YOU moronic lying government trolls has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED TOWER buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

For MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS you shills have never been able to answer this. Instead, like Pookie the nutter has done, the government trolls have tried to pass of LOW-RISE buildings as if they were hi-rises, tried to pass off CONCRETE buildings as if they were steel-framed (KRcummings did that), and one of the total losers even tried to pass off a 4-storey WOODEN-FRAMED BRICK TOWN-HOUSE as if it were a steel-framed tower building.

Pretty clear at this point, that all you shills can do is grasp at straws, or tell outright lies.

 

[Lovelynice]

Anything to defy logic, eh?

Yes, you do try, don't you?

Let's repeat that poitn you obviously can't cope with; I'm still waiting for you to provide photos/video of something other than INVISIBLE FIRES that are hiding from the windows in WTC 7. Please provide pictures to back your bullshit, showing VISIBLE INFERNOS and VISIBLE MASSIVE DAMAGE. Where are these pictures? Can you back your bullshit, or are you as useless at backing your claims as the USA government when they LIED about WMDs in Iraq?

NO HUGE INFERNOS HERE!
http://xs206.xs.to/xs206/06375/wtc7_northface.jpg

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

There's nothing left to say, you used the biggest type-font already, we can't go any bigger, you won, you proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was an inside job.

You can pick a new conspiracy now that this one isn't any more since the cat is out of the bag.

 

[Lovelynice]

When REPEATEDLY asked this, EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

All Pookie could do was make up bullshit excuses citing some LOW-RISE, definitely NOT towering hi-rise buildings including a mere 4-storey building, and another similar LOW-RISE building. Come on, Pookie, you never even apologized for trying to pass off those crappy low-rise structures as being the same as towering skyscraper.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

22 pages ago we ceeded that point.

It still doesn't prove the converse...

 

[Lovelynice]

ht...

Ah, so you have lost the ability to type as well, vetteman?

http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07116/911usaGOVTdumbLIES.gif

 

[Lovelynice]

22 pages ago we ceeded that point...

Then fuck off back under your rock dear

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

If Lit were the NYTimes...

... you'd still be the comics section.​

 

[Lovelynice]

If Lit were the NYTimes...

it's not.

and you still lose.

You simply can't cope with all the massive holes in your excuses.

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

You can't even cite a scientific study showing cellphones can make successful calls from planes flying six miles up at over 450mph without an onboard cellular basestation (technology which didn't exist until 2004)

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

In the whole history of mankind, how many skyscrapers have been hit by jetliners?

Cue Steve Miller Band

 

[Lovelynice]

In the whole history of mankind, how many skyscrapers have been hit by jetliners

WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane.

And I'm still waiting for Pookie to back her bullshit, as I said earlier...

I notice that Pookie the fuckwit has again avoided backing her bullshit when she was caught out in a MAJOR WAY....

The McCormick Center in Chicago and the Sight and Sound Theater in Pennsylvania are examples of steel structures collapsing...

LOSE AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A TOWER BUILDING -- it was a low-rise building and nothing like a steel-framed hi-rise tower.

try again, dear.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/TR-068.pdf

The Kader Toy Factory also collapsed due to fires...

LOSE AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A TOWER BUILDING -- it was a low-rise 4-storey building and nothing like a steel-framed hi-rise tower..


Pookie's bullshit just dropped dead like a stone.

You're not exactly the brainiest of the bunch are you, dear.....

and yet again, you idiots failed to answer the following

WTC 7 wasn't hit by any plane.

and it's collapse was EXACTLY like any other controlled demolition. Explain that.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


and WTC 1 & 2 both went STRAIGHT-DOWN just like controlled demolitions do.

3 steel-framed buildings doing on ONE DAY doing what can only be done with, and has only been done, with CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

Your excuse fails.

Do try again, dear. It isn't difficult to use your brain.

No plane hit this building - it's a typical controlled demolition
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-11.gif

So is this...
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/wtc7/oslo_demo_clips.jpg

and neither did a plane hit this building...and it's an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/hsw_implosion.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_collapse_lg.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_cbs_lowman.gif


Just like this is a controlled demolition...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-9.gif

and despite your bullshit excuses, this one is an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/image023.jpg

and NONE OF YOU moronic lying government trolls has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED TOWER buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

For MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS you shills have never been able to answer this. Instead, like Pookie the nutter has done, the government trolls have tried to pass of LOW-RISE buildings as if they were hi-rises, tried to pass off CONCRETE buildings as if they were steel-framed (KRcummings did that), and one of the total losers even tried to pass off a 4-storey WOODEN-FRAMED BRICK TOWN-HOUSE as if it were a steel-framed tower building.

Pretty clear at this point, that all you shills can do is grasp at straws, or tell outright lies.