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[Lavared]

Good now I can say you have always been one of my favorite Shills, I don't have to hide it.

G'nite you two. Sweet dreams when you get around to them.

 

[Fagin]

Mmmm, my dream job would be working for Mad Magazine.

That's the second LN calling. You know what they say about three lights on a match.

Mad Magazine, that's the left-wing magazine right?

That does sound like possibly a fun job.

 

[Lovelynice]

Airliners don't fly into buildings every day lovely. ...

Pathetic excuse again.

WTC 7 ring a bell? It was NOT hit by any plane.
WTC 7 roofline to ground: 6.6 seconds. Symmetrical, straight down.
WTC 7 Collapse

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
Let's repeat that shall we for deliberately dumb;
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
WTC 7 ring a bell?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


and if WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, then why not the other two equally suspicious collapses which which NONE OF YOU SHILLS has ever been able to provide a successful mathematical simulation for to show that there was enough energy for gravitational collapse.

NONE OF YOU MORONS has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

For MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS you shills have never been able to answer this.

 

[phrodeau]

I want to look at it this way:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gifhttp://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gifhttp://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

Nope, I can't see any squib puffs here. Are you sure this is the right building?

 

[Lovelynice]

I want to look at it this way:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gifhttp://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gifhttp://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

Yep, looks EXACTLY like a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

If you deny that, you are either a moronic fuckwit or a liar.

 

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[plasticman33]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

 

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[plasticman33]

You government shill you.

And proud of it! (It's a vast conspiracy promoted by the NIST and Wikipedia)

 

[phrodeau]

Yep, looks EXACTLY like a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

If you deny that, you are either a moronic fuckwit or a liar.

I don't deny that.

I also don't deny that the smoke in the upper left corner looks exactly like the output from an Antari M-5 stage fogger. But I'm reasonably certain that it isn't.

 

[Pookie]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

Yep, looks EXACTLY like a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

If you deny that, you are either a moronic fuckwit or a liar.

Naw. It probably means he did some research and knows you're trying to pull one over to sucker people into supporting your scam ... and maybe even making a "monetary love offering" to the "search for truth". Heh.

With some simple research, here is just a small sample of what can be found ...

CTs often show video from street level and remark about how quickly the building fell (6.6 seconds, according to an estimate by BYU professor Steven E. Jones and his students, although since much of the collapse is obscured by other buildings and by the dust and smoke thrown up by WTC 7, it’s impossible to tell exactly when the collapse ends).

However, in this video http://*******.com/z66rz (download and play it in full-screen mode) it’s obvious that the collapse takes at least 13.5 seconds from the first movement of the east mechanical penthouse, a structure about 115 x 130 feet (35 x 40 meters) in area, until it disappears behind the foreground buildings. NIST and FEMA posit that the penthouse collapse was due to collapses on floors at the lower levels.

http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc

Some quotes from the firefighters and others on the damage ...

The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a col-lapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC 7] building. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building’s integrity was in serious doubt. [Fire Engineering magazine, 10/2002]

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was [that] the collapse [Of the WTC towers] had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story build-ing, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we [would-n't] lose any more people. We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was [given], at 5:30 in the afternoon, 7 World Trade Center collapsed completely. http://*******.com/g8c6y

We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors. –FDNY Lieutenant Robert LaRocca
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110081.PDF

...Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down. –FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110447.PDF

When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories.
–FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers (Smith, Dennis, 2002. Report From Ground Zero: The Heroic Story of the Rescuers at the World Trade Center. New York: Penguin Putnam. p. 160)

The major concern at that time was number Seven, building number Seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. –FDNY Chief Frank Fellini
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110217.PDF

At that time, other firefighters started showing up, Deputy Battalion Chief Paul Ferran of the 41 Battalion, and James Savastano of the First Division assigned to the Second Battalion showed up and we attempted to search and extinguish, at the time which was small pockets of fire in 7 World Trade Center. We were unaware of the damage in the front of 7, because we were entering from the northeast entrance. We weren't aware of the magnitude of the damage in the front of the building. – FDNY Captain Anthony Varriale
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110313.PDF

[Shortly after the tower collapses] I don’t know how long this was going on, but I remember standing there looking over at building 7 and realizing that a big chunk of the lower floors had been taken out on the Vesey Street side. I looked up at the building and I saw smoke in it, but I really didn't see any fire at that time. Deputy ––Chief Nick Vis-conti http://*******.com/paqux

A few minutes after that a police officer came up to me and told me that the façade in front of Seven World Trade Center was gone and they thought there was an imminent collapse of Seven World Trade Center. –FDNY Lieutenant William Melarango
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110045.PDF

I think they said they had seven to ten floors that were freestanding and they weren't going to send anyone in. –FDNY Chief Thomas McCarthy
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110055.PDF

So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good. But they had a hose line operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too.
Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandeis came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Vis-conti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Firehouse Magazine: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered through there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was proba-bly a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post.
– Capt. Chris Boyle http://*******.com/e7bzp

So we left 7 World Trade Center, back down to the street, where I ran into Chief Coloe from the 1st Division, Captain Varriale, Engine 24, and Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did. – FDNY Lieutenant Rudolph Weindler http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110462.PDF

At this point, 7, which is right there on Vesey, the whole corner of the building was missing. I was thinking to myself we are in a bad place, because it was the corner facing us. –Fred Marsilla, FDNY
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110399.PDF

I actually worked at WTC7 and was there on 9-11. From the minute the first plane hit the towers, WTC7 was getting hit with debris.
In fact, when I finally got down to the lobby 45 minutes later, we were all forced to leave through the back since so much debris had hit the building and blocked the entrance.
I also would love to have someone tell me how the 28-44th floors were wired for demolition, when we packed like sardines after the merger with Smith Barney and most floors had people on them 7 days a week. ( A few floors were trading floors so it was 24x7 and many worked 6-7 days a week), and I never saw one construction crew in my time there doing anything significant.
Why won't CT's talk to people who worked at WTC7? My friends and I who worked with at Salomon are eager to talk but I'm guessing you won't like the answers. http://*******.com/n5xap


I gots plenty more if you think this isn't enough, LN. Are you going to call all these people (and many many others) moronic fuckwits or a liars too?

If the truth is on your side, why do you have to use deception, LN?

 

[Lavared]

Mad Magazine, that's the left-wing magazine right?

That does sound like possibly a fun job.

South Park won't hire me (which is extremely unfair since I can 'dis Barbara Steisand with the best of them) so it's the best I can possibly do.

 

[Lavared]

You government shill you.

'Scuse me darlin' but he isn't on the list. He's one of those shills-at-large trying to edge in on our territory. Be careful. Next thing you know he's grabbing the corner office and you're back to buying your coffee from the 7-11 instead of Starbucks.

 

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[Lavared]

Where's Lovelynumb? I haven't seen her since Pookie muzzel swept her this morning.

As surely as the sun rises in the morning she shall return. For whatever reason, this is her windmill and she's in a tilting mood.

 

[Lovelynice]

You poor sods, you couldn't even back your bullshit could you?

 

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[Lovelynice]

The only theory...

BZZZZT!

Try again dear.

You failed to answer the following

WTC 7 wasn't hit by any plane.

and it's collapse was EXACTLY like any other controlled demolition. Explain that.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


and WTC 1 & 2 both went STRAIGHT-DOWN just like controlled demolitions do.

3 steel-framed buildings doing on ONE DAY doing what can only be done with, and has only been done, with CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

Your excuse fails.

Do try again, Lavared. It isn't difficult to use your brain.

No plane hit this building - it's a typical controlled demolition
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-11.gif

So is this...
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/wtc7/oslo_demo_clips.jpg

and neither did a plane hit this building...and it's an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/hsw_implosion.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_collapse_lg.gif
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/video/wtc7/wtc7_cbs_lowman.gif


Just like this is a controlled demolition...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/building-implosion-9.gif

and despite your bullshit excuses, this one is an obvious controlled demolition too...
http://xs513.xs.to/xs513/07104/image023.jpg

and NONE OF YOU moronic lying government trolls has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

For MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS you shills have never been able to answer this.

 

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[Pookie]

BZZZZT!
and NONE OF YOU moronic lying government trolls has ever been able to cite anything to back your 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this;

It's amazing what can be accomplished when people believe you have a bomb.

Why all the deception, LN? I thought truth was on your side?

Oh, yeah. You never did say if you were a part of the "space beamers" or "no-beamers".

 

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[Pookie]

BZZZZT!
EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed STRAIGHT-DOWN into their own footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this?

With a photo, video, or anything else.

The McCormick Center in Chicago and the Sight and Sound Theater in Pennsylvania are examples of steel structures collapsing. The theater was fire protected using drywall and spray on material. The Meridian Plaza didn't collapse after a long fire but firefighters evacuated the building when a pancake structural collapse was considered likely. Other steel-framed buildings partially collapsed due fires one after only 20 minutes.

The steel framed McCormick Center was at the time the World's largest exhibition center. It, like the WTC, used long steel trusses to create a large open space without columns. Those trusses were unprotected but of course much of the WTC lost it's fire protection due to the impacts.

"As an example of the damaging effect of fire on steel, in 1967, the original heavy steel constructed McCormick Place exhibition hall in Chicago collapsed only 30 minutes after the start of a small electrical fire."

http://www.wconline.com/CDA/Archive/24ae78779d768010VgnVCM100000f932a

The McCormick Place fire "is significant because it illustrates the fact that steel-frame buildings can collapse as a result of exposure to fire. This is true for all types of construction materials, not only steel." Wrote Robert Berhinig, associate manager of UL's Fire Protection Division and a registered professional engineer. He also discusses UL's steel fire certification much more knowledgeably than Kevin Ryan. He is an example of one more highly qualified engineer who supports the collapse theory.

http://www.iaei.org/subscriber/magazine/02_d/berhinig.htm

About 2 years later the NYFD was concerned that a steel framed building that partially collapsed during after a gas explosion might collapse entirely due to the resulting fire.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/TR-068.pdf

The Kader Toy Factory also collapsed due to fires. It had a steel frame.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/kade-m16.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kader_Toy_Factory

You can find more examples here, at the bottom of the page:

http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm

Many CTs seem to “forget” the two planes, or the construction style of the buildings. Some even dare compare a concrete building to a steel-frame building.



Logical fallacies and strawmen seem to be all you have, LN. Why do you need them? I thought truth was on your side?

 

[Pookie]

If a man collapses in his own tracks due to a bullet, a stroke, or a heart attack, it all looks the same from a distance, but it isn't. Get a clue Lovenummy.

Slight of hand is what con artists like her depend on. They depend on people not doing their own research, and just taking their word since they aren't the evil government. It's amazing how many suckers there are out there though.

 

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