This Means Make Love Not War!!!

[KillerMuffin]

I recall the furor a few months ago when there was no playground, just the personals board. Remember that? When someone brought it to Laurel's attention that the personals had become a general type board.

There was talk of merging the general threads from the personals onto the General Board. This was not something any of you seemed to want. You bypassed the GB in the first place, you didn't want to be forced to go there. Which is fine, I don't blame you. The GB can be a harsh place and if it's not your thing, then why go there?

So the Playground was created and then appropriately named.

And everyone, after a few bumps, settled into enjoying their time here and having fun.

Until now. Now we're at war and people are not having fun. People are coming here, to a place that's growing hostile and promises to grow more hostile as this thing carries on. You can try to take it the GB where hostility is par for the course, but it will come back here as the insulted GB'ers follow you back here. War cannot be contained.

There is simply no good reason to be at war. None.

Tigerjen went onto the GB and announced that she had 10,000 posts. For the life of me I can't figure out why she'd think that anyone on the GB would actually care. It's not like she's made any friends there. She doesn't post to threads there, just her own. And she doesn't even really like the GB. She's said so several times. She prefers it here.

Of course someone has to be a smartass. We do so love our hecklers at the GB. One of the reasons why there is a Playground. You don't love hecklers. There's two ways of dealing with them. The right way--ignore them (we even have an ignore feature here)--and the wrong way--incite a riot.

TJ didn't need to be insulted. This is true. However, her response to it was very wrong. She should never have come here and involved the entire board.

Now we've got bad feelings all over the place instead of contained to one, easily ignored thread. We have always awake hating an entire forum for no good reason. Now we have more fighting because people will take offense to his attitude. We have people like Austess gleefully jumping on whichever person presents a target for her hatefulness. And this is going to cause more fighting because people are taking offense to her attitude.

Why are we fighting?

I propose this. Stop the fighting. There's no point to it beyond hurting everyone involved.

I wasn't even involved in the original thread--have no intention of it--and already always awake calls me a cast iron bitch and has no intention of associating with me. Why? Why does he hate me like that? I've done nothing to him.

My feelings have been hurt and I've been offended by someone who doesn't even know me. Because someone decided to start a war. One that I'm not fully involved in.

This is not right. If I've done something, then take me to task for it. If I haven't, then don't lash out at me.

The majority of the people who frequent the GB are like you. They're fun-loving and just want to have a good time. They didn't ask for this war any more than any of you did. It was thrust upon them just like it was thrust upon you.

Don't post to any of these incidiary threads tonight. Rather, step back for a moment, think about things reasonably, and perhaps make an overture to someone on the GB. You just might be pleasantly surprised about the people who post there. Not all of us are vicious and sarcastic. I am, but not all of us are.

 

[Lady_Sam]

Well said, KM.

 

[alwaysawake]

My dander is down, KM--I agree with much of what you said and appreciate you posting it. Nobody is right or wrong here--just things escalated quickly and without warning. I guess that I must be too gentle, loving, and sensitive to deal with the hostility that exists elsewhere...not referring to any specific place in Lit--as it can exist anywhere and in anyone's heart.

I have enjoyed my time here, and there are many fine individuals that I have had the pleasure to know and meet--hope to meet many more in the future. It isn't about right or wrong; this board vs. that board, the point is to treat people right and if you don't have something kind to say--then don't say it unless you PM the person and do it like an adult. (I am not perfect either, and slipped up a bit too.)

I do disagree slightly with one thing, it was stated that "we aren't real people" by one poster--not true. We may project an image here, but the feelings, thoughts, and desires that are behind that image are most certainly real. Those feelings exist no matter who you are here and it matters not whether you show them or not--they are there.

Ok back to having fun--no spite, no malice, let it drop and let's go forward. If we dwell on this, then we are wasting the present and I prefer it to be more memorable. Thanks for the time and patience...AA

 

[ReBeLBeLLe]

Yea, yea...I'm going to step in and open my mouth. I have no idea what is going on and if I feel like it I will go back and read through all of the posts and form my own opinions then. My opinions won't be based on a board or who may or may not post on which. I have nothing against the GB. There are several threads over there I do enjoy posting on. I can honestly say I post more often over here on the playground and that is simply because I've gotten a warmer reception over here. There are few on the GB that have welcomed me. There are many more over here on the Playground that have. Maybe this gives the misconception that the GB posters are a little on the stuck up side. The majority of the people are going to go where they feel they are most welcome. I'm not saying that's here, because each individual interacts with others in their own way. For me, I feel most welcomed here. I am sure others feel the most welcome on the GB. Regardless of where I feel most welcome, I will continue to post where I please and treat each and every individual as I find them.

 

[1sexylady]

KillerMuffin I agree with you....

I have to say when I see a friend getting attacked I don't sit on my ass and watch...Whether Tigerjenn posted there or here, she was proud and happy because of something she did, doesn't mean she should get attacked because of it....When a young friend came to help her, he too was attacked..

People have the right to their opinion and if you don't agree that is fine but there are other ways to go about it.....this was not one of them...

War was a harsh word and with the way the World is today...we should *ALL* be ashamed of our actions.....

I am saying sorry for mine....

 

[kiwiwolf]

You are truly a wise woman KM. Evening Playground folk. This is my first time over here, hope you don't mind if I have a nosy around.

 

[Jewelz]

I just had to peek in this thread and Im glad I did

I didnt participate in either DCL or TJ's threads. Both nonsense. I post at both the playground and the GB. Does this mean that my friends at GB will think me bad cuz I am here most of the time? OR will my friends at the playground see me as mean, brutal and nasty cuz some people think that is how all the GB'ers are? I surely hope not.

Its so much easier to ignore the slander, ignore the childlike banter, ignore "wars". That is so elementary. It is soooo much easier to be kind to people, to make someone smile instead of finding ways to hurt their feelings!! Life is too short to be cruel. Sarcasm can be fun sometimes but only when people know when to draw the line.

I get tired of the board wars. I get tired of people cutting down the playground and treating us ALL like we are children. I get tired of the GB getting slandered for ALL of them being rude and nasty. They arent all assholes. And the playground is not all full of children. Its tired already. Very tired.

Popularity contests are not for my taste. I dont care how "popular" people think I am. I'd rather they wanna get to know me cuz of who I am, what I offer, and maybe just maybe, I make them smile. Not cuz of my outlandish post count (god that is so embarrassing LOL)

KM, thank you for this post!! Very well versed and CONGRATS on your most influential writer award

I must agree with freakygurl about some of the siglines though....whoa!! *giggle* (BUT, that is something i choose to ignore)

Be good people. Im so glad that I have made some of my very best friends here at the playground (my home at lit)...but I also have made some friends over at GB!!

*Throws a huge bag of snickers to everyone*

 

[knightstalker]

Hmmm seems I am missing out on something ..When did this war start ..I love the people in the playground because they made me feel welcomed and they tend to answer my threads and banter with me ..i tried and still do once in awhile to post at the G.B. but get ignored and well thats just no fun ..I do like to go there and lurk because i love some of the threads and post i read there ...As for Jen she seemed to be proud of the fact that reached a huge milestone and I congratulate her on it ...I would like to see some G.B's over here once inwhile with out doing the whole panty raid bit ..LOL ok so I thought it was funny..Anyway I agree why the war ..Also if ya see some P.G. peps over at the G.B. say hi and maybe we would come back...What the hell do I know ... Take care all and have a great day

 

[Lady_Sam]

You are truly a wise woman KM. Evening Playground folk. This is my first time over here, hope you don't mind if I have a nosy around.

Long time no see Kiwi. Welcome to this side of Lit.

 

[1sexylady]

This was not about being....

Popular....

Tigerjen like the rest of us have the right to be proud of her accomplishments...whether it is a post count, which we *ALL * brag about and post, or her writings...

This she can do here or on the General Board or anywhere on Lit from what I see....if you don't like it don't post in it...ignore and move on...

I read what was said and saw a young man I know say that it should be stopped.......and instead of stopping he was chastised for his sig line....

Should Tigerjen of posted here that she was being attacked in the GB??....I think not, it stirred up the ones here that like her....Nobody likes to see a friend hurt, or abused...and I have seen many come to anothers aid....It has been done on this board many times....and just this week....

I have no problems with the General Board....I am sorry I called them *mongrels*....it was actually a joke to try and calm Jen down.... I have posted there many times...I am just more comfortable here....and here is where I will stay....

I don't find anyone here a *Superior* being....or better than anyone else....I don't need to kiss anyone's ass nor will I.....I am who I am take it or leave it....

 

[1sexylady]

You are truly a wise woman KM. Evening Playground folk. This is my first time over here, hope you don't mind if I have a nosy around.

Welcome to the playground....we have talked before...

 

[Angelofsex]

I just don't understand. Jen is a very bubbley person. So she posted to the GB........If no one wanted to post on it.......then no one post..........There is no big deal.......She was proud of it and wanted to share it...shouldn't be any problem to that.

Question I have........Why is there such anger on the GB..........I try and post but forget never got an answer or anyone talk to me...Like it is so hard to get accepted there.

Here they accept you right away.......I feel there is more love here, more friendships..........

I just don't understand..........has everyone forget 911........3000 people are still missing.........what is it are we kids.......are we Jealous..........what kind of respect do they have for themselves.

It is ashamed that a few could get others to follow them and cause this problem between the two boards..........Never had this problem before............You said the boards was to join.......how could it when GB seem to have the anger part.........People have left the GB to come here because they were tired of the anger.

War is on the outside in the RW.........here is a place to get away from that.........just to have fun......to share.....to be there for one another.......Maybe I am the wrong one.

 

[Guest]

 

[1sexylady]

Re: Re: This Means Make Love Not War!!!

I'm not vicious and sarcastic...

*pats km on the back*

Way to go dear.

Glad to hear that...Welcome to the Playground...

 

[chewbacca71]

Re: Re: This Means Make Love Not War!!!

I'm not vicious and sarcastic...

*pats km on the back*

Way to go dear.

I can vouch for that. Luscious Lioness is one of the nicest people on the GB.

Chewey

 

[chewbacca71]

Let me throw my 2 cents in here. I started off on the General Board when I first got here. Well, let me rephrase that, I tried to start off on the General Board. A few times that I posted, people answered and responded. I even got some great PM's that I still cherish. But for the most part, my posts were ignored. I consider myself a semi-intelligent mammal and possess a pretty good sense of humor so I was puzzled at this lack of response. So I migrated to different areas of the Bulletin Board. I found a specialty home in the ORP and have frequented other areas at times. I think the Playground is great since it is a melting pot of all the forums together. You get people from all areas of Lit coming in. The people are friendly and more openminded. They accept much easier. There are some great people on the GB also, but to my mind the general tone is most often more intellectual and inflammatory. Whereas the playground is more for fun and a retreat from Real Life problems. Ok, off the soapbox for now.

Chewey

 

[poundemin]

I guess I miss way too much on here. I thought people got on here to have a good time. Curiosity got me when I saw this thread. Did I understand that someone got pissed because someone else hit a milestone on their posting? Or was there something else involved? Most of the threads I have read here at Lit are concerned with sex. The general board concerns a wide variety of subjects and the playground is based primarily on sex and its various branches. Some subjects are serious but most are tongue in cheek( or where ever). Some people vent to their friends on here and I can see how someone from outside could see it as an attack, but let's get real. This is an escape for most people. We want to have harmless fun here. If we happen to make new friends that's great. If we meet new people that's great too. But there is no need to make enemies here. If you want that step out your door and flip somebody off. That's real life and sometimes it sucks.

 

[KillerMuffin]

but to my mind the general tone is most often more intellectual and inflammatory. Whereas the playground is more for fun and a retreat from Real Life problems.

Exactly.

There's room for everyone at Lit. No one should have to post where they don't want to. No one should be knocked for it. I'll be the first to say that the GB can be a hostile place to be and that's not for everyone. We seem to adore the flame wars. That's why the Playground is here. Because it doesn't have the flame wars or the hostility. People can come here and flirt and enjoy themselves without worrying about some troll coming along and calling them names.

That's also sort of the point, too.

Everyone who has been there knows that posting at the GB pretty much makes you a target for trolls and sarcastic regulars. If someone doesn't like something, they feel perfectly free to say it however they choose.

Everyone who has been here knows that posting at the Playground pretty much makes you safe, you're not a target and sarcastic regulars generally take themselves to the GB to be nasty. You have fun, you enjoy, and it's very mellow.

The Playground is the party, the GB is the rave. And this is perfectly okay. Some people don't like to party, some people don't like to rave. This is okay, too. You don't have to like the GB, you don't even have to go there. No one will ever think the less of you for not doing something you don't like to do.

I think people should bear it in mind when they post. They should not come here and post inflammatory, political flames, or essentially negative things here. That's the climate of this board. Fun, not fighting or inflammatory debating. Likewise, people should not go to the GB and expect everything they post to be treated with warm supportiveness. Sarcasm and blunt honesty, not open supportiveness. That's the climate of the GB.

Neither of these places are wrong for being the way they are. People at the GB should accept that intelligent, decent people post here. People here should accept that on the GB, it's okay to be mean. That won't change either, why? Because at the GB we like it that way.

If you can't handle the party, don't post here. If you can't handle the rave, don't post there. It's very simple and something we've all been doing anyway. I simply don't understand why it shouldn't continue that way.

If you post at the GB sooner or later you will get attacked. Everyone does, even Laurel and Manu. And the people who post there like it that way or it wouldn't be that way. Just like here, people don't like it when attacks happen, so it doesn't happen. We are communities and we have or values and mores. The GB shouldn't pass judgement on yours and the Playground shouldn't pass judgement on theirs. We should all accept that both places exist as they are and that the people who inhabit both places are happy with the way things are. No one should pass judgement on a different community based on their own community's standards.

 

[Guest]

Trolls and name-callers can be female too

 

[Cipher]

I recall the furor a few months ago when there was no playground, just the personals board. Remember that? When someone brought it to Laurel's attention that the personals had become a general type board.

There was talk of merging the general threads from the personals onto the General Board. This was not something any of you seemed to want. You bypassed the GB in the first place, you didn't want to be forced to go there. Which is fine, I don't blame you. The GB can be a harsh place and if it's not your thing, then why go there?

So the Playground was created and then appropriately named.

And everyone, after a few bumps, settled into enjoying their time here and having fun.

Until now. Now we're at war and people are not having fun. People are coming here, to a place that's growing hostile and promises to grow more hostile as this thing carries on. You can try to take it the GB where hostility is par for the course, but it will come back here as the insulted GB'ers follow you back here. War cannot be contained.

There is simply no good reason to be at war. None.

Tigerjen went onto the GB and announced that she had 10,000 posts. For the life of me I can't figure out why she'd think that anyone on the GB would actually care. It's not like she's made any friends there. She doesn't post to threads there, just her own. And she doesn't even really like the GB. She's said so several times. She prefers it here.

Of course someone has to be a smartass. We do so love our hecklers at the GB. One of the reasons why there is a Playground. You don't love hecklers. There's two ways of dealing with them. The right way--ignore them (we even have an ignore feature here)--and the wrong way--incite a riot.

TJ didn't need to be insulted. This is true. However, her response to it was very wrong. She should never have come here and involved the entire board.

Now we've got bad feelings all over the place instead of contained to one, easily ignored thread. We have always awake hating an entire forum for no good reason. Now we have more fighting because people will take offense to his attitude. We have people like Austess gleefully jumping on whichever person presents a target for her hatefulness. And this is going to cause more fighting because people are taking offense to her attitude.

Why are we fighting?

I propose this. Stop the fighting. There's no point to it beyond hurting everyone involved.

I wasn't even involved in the original thread--have no intention of it--and already always awake calls me a cast iron bitch and has no intention of associating with me. Why? Why does he hate me like that? I've done nothing to him.

My feelings have been hurt and I've been offended by someone who doesn't even know me. Because someone decided to start a war. One that I'm not fully involved in.

This is not right. If I've done something, then take me to task for it. If I haven't, then don't lash out at me.

The majority of the people who frequent the GB are like you. They're fun-loving and just want to have a good time. They didn't ask for this war any more than any of you did. It was thrust upon them just like it was thrust upon you.

Don't post to any of these incidiary threads tonight. Rather, step back for a moment, think about things reasonably, and perhaps make an overture to someone on the GB. You just might be pleasantly surprised about the people who post there. Not all of us are vicious and sarcastic. I am, but not all of us are.

KM,
Go'on girl...take these folks to church..LoL Amen sista girl..preach it like u were moses girl..*Mmmm'ing like i was Mahalia jackson*..LoL
For me..i go wherever to post..altho, i am mostly on the pg, i go to the gb's every so often to post. I snapped about this whole situation matter of fact on the bbw pics thread..it's just assinine how sometimes one person can can cause a whole lotta shit..i'm not sayin this one or that one strated, but dayum..i saw some shit on the gb about "all" the pg girls bein easy and something about all of us being stupid or sumthin and it's not fair to those that really don't give a flying fuck about where in lit's top anything we stand..i sure as hell don't give a fuck where i am on any totem pole or anyone's fave person list..i came to lit to have a good time..meet people post and get away from real life drama..but yet over stupid shit people argue and put "they and them's" in to sentences..and it's not right..for anyone to do..i'm far from easy..LoL and i'm far from being stupid..LoL The few times i've gone to the gb..i've never had problems..i like all the crazy shit that goes on..ya'll are a trip over there..esp when ur picking on trolls and unreg's..that's damned funny..LoL
All in all..WHO THE FUCK CARES?? let's just all post..have fun..cuz when you get that disgruntled over someone over the net and what someone says..then that's when you need to walk away, turn the pc off..and go about ur way..ya know??
So..i'm gonna step off this soap box now..and go post and have fun!! I hope to see all of you around here somewhere

 

[Siren]

 

[Cipher]

This is why I am in love with KM and plan to make her my lesbian lover.....regardless of the fact that she isnt bi.


Seriously...........we are all part of lit.

no part is better than the other.

there are personality differences.....and some fit better here than there.........

so lets embrace the differences.

and intermix when we want.......
and welcome each other when we mix.

Yep..My thoughts exactly..only on the we're a part of lit..i dunno nuttin about who bein who's les lover..LoL..My name is towanda and i'm lookin over yonda..LoL I don't know nuffink else..LoL

Hi Siren i'm Cipher

 

[Orlanth]

Forget the war bullshit, and continue flirting...

Or be a 111% complete dark, and just go around posting nonsense bullshit and get a laugh from people, like Ido...

 

[Ladybird]

Forget the war bullshit, and continue flirting...
Or be a 111% complete dark, and just go around posting nonsense bullshit and get a laugh from people, like Ido...

Oh.... I thought you were serious.

 

[SexyChele]

KM, you rock! Plain spoken and honest, can't beat that.

Hmm, guess I'm a rave kinda gal and never knew it! Nice to know that! *LOL* Seriously, I believe everyone is a part of Lit no matter where they call "home". It shouldn't be a problem where people feel comfortable posting. Though I do gotta admit - trying to "break in" here at the Playground is T O U G H!! People keep talking about how easy it is to be accepted here and stuff. Never got that feeling here. Quite the opposite - been ignored here more than I ever have been on the GB.

But then, I'm not much for "parties". Never thought of raves, though. Learning something new all the time here at Lit!