This just bothered me

[honoria]

Most males I know got turned off to the books about the time they became fuck fests with little to no action or storyline.

I've enjoyed seeing Anita progress from uptight little bitch to overburdened, somewhat accepting of all the sex, slut.

It's not just the guys. I was a huge fan before the never-ending sex-fest began. I love sex but Good Lord! Betticus had the synopsis dead on. But I have heard that she is getting back to more story now. I'm not sure I can wade through all the ones I've missed in order to catch up with the storyline though.

 

[Betticus]

It's not just the guys. I was a huge fan before the never-ending sex-fest began. I love sex but Good Lord! Betticus had the synopsis dead on. But I have heard that she is getting back to more story now. I'm not sure I can wade through all the ones I've missed in order to catch up with the storyline though.

I'll catch you up.

some old vamp chick makes her crave sex and feed off of sex.
She only fucks vampires and were animals.
She's gathering men of all were animal types to "feed" i.e. fuck and has to fuck every few hours to keep it under control.
Ancient vamp chick who's asleep is messing with her too.
Everyone wants for fuck her. She won't do bi for the chick that wants her.


If a book is 500 pages, 400 or more of them are only of her fucking with agonizingly long, ultra descriptive sex scenes.

That's all you've missed. No more zombies, no more hunting down bad guys and killin' em. No more plot, storyline. Just a big ol one woman bestial/vampiric orgy.

I bet in the next book she fucks a stable full of were donkeys in Tijuana. On stage.

 

[Betticus]

If you can't tell, I'm a bit pissed off that I spent the $20 on a 500 page sex scene.

If I'm gonna read about sex there better be non-consent, blood, tears, humiliation, enslavement, etc... at least make it interesting.

 

[Betticus]

It's not just the guys. I was a huge fan before the never-ending sex-fest began. I love sex but Good Lord! Betticus had the synopsis dead on. But I have heard that she is getting back to more story now. I'm not sure I can wade through all the ones I've missed in order to catch up with the storyline though.

Also, I highly recommend that you just switch to the series by this author...

http://www.kimharrison.net/

They have some of the flavor of the early Hamilton books but don't devolve so much into an orgy and the sex that is in there is rough with biting and stuff and a little kink.

 

[jockdom]

Tried to read one of her books not of the anita series but about faeries defenetly chick lit. Try the Historian for a decent vampire yarn.

 

[ShyVixen]

I'm a big Hamilton fan, and I'm on the side of the fence that enjoyed the later part of her series, after book 8 - so basically when she got into the whole 'fuck fest' phase. Don't get my wrong, I love the action of the first few books, but for me the sex was missing. And if she had of settled with Richard I'd have boycotted the books completely.

FurryFury manages to sum it up perfectly:

I've enjoyed seeing Anita progress from uptight little bitch to overburdened, somewhat accepting of all the sex, slut.

That's what I enjoyed, watching the progression of Anita. I don't see them as BDSM books, because to be honest in those stakes, I've read better descriptions, and I wish to all the gods I can think of she's write a scene with Asher showing Anita how to top Nate...but I digress.

HOWEVER, all that being said, I wish she would find a better balance of action and sex. I enjoyed Blood Noir, but it wasn't memorable.

 

[kittenartist]

Yeah, the first probably half of the series is totally sex free. Then the sex starts, but it doesn't start getting REALLY kinky till the last few books.

But, quite frankly, you gotta read them all to understand what's going on. And the books are good by themselves.

I agree with that they are good on their own -- the lure of sex is just a bonus I picked up just the first book to see if it was worth my time and got wrapped in enough to finish it in one sitting. Since then I have been buying them in pairs and trying to pace myself (and failing). Good stuff

 

[FurryFury]

Also, I highly recommend that you just switch to the series by this author...

http://www.kimharrison.net/

They have some of the flavor of the early Hamilton books but don't devolve so much into an orgy and the sex that is in there is rough with biting and stuff and a little kink.

I really like this series. The last book I read someone died and that bothered me but I'm still looking forward to the next one.

 

[FurryFury]

It's not just the guys. I was a huge fan before the never-ending sex-fest began. I love sex but Good Lord! Betticus had the synopsis dead on. But I have heard that she is getting back to more story now. I'm not sure I can wade through all the ones I've missed in order to catch up with the storyline though.

You don't need to read the intervening books. She'll bring back up the salient points.

 

[FurryFury]

I'm a big Hamilton fan, and I'm on the side of the fence that enjoyed the later part of her series, after book 8 - so basically when she got into the whole 'fuck fest' phase. Don't get my wrong, I love the action of the first few books, but for me the sex was missing. And if she had of settled with Richard I'd have boycotted the books completely.

FurryFury manages to sum it up perfectly:



That's what I enjoyed, watching the progression of Anita. I don't see them as BDSM books, because to be honest in those stakes, I've read better descriptions, and I wish to all the gods I can think of she's write a scene with Asher showing Anita how to top Nate...but I digress.

HOWEVER, all that being said, I wish she would find a better balance of action and sex. I enjoyed Blood Noir, but it wasn't memorable.

Guilty Pleasures is one of my all time fav books BUT sex was missing for no good reason. That pissed me off.

 

[honoria]

I'll catch you up.

I bet in the next book she fucks a stable full of were donkeys in Tijuana. On stage.

Dr. Pepper, through the nose = pain and not in a good way!

I read Kim Harrison and adore her books.

 

[Abraxas Winterlight]

I enjoy Kim Harrison myself

(haven't gotten the last hardback yet tho)

 

[EmpressFi]

No one in this thread OWNs BDSM.

Instead of asking someone else to say "well, THIS is what BDSM is to me"

why not just say yourself, "well THAT's not what BDSM is to me" and be comfortable with it.

For what it's worth, I didn't think the analogy was that bad. I also haven't read the books, but I wouldn't be shocked if the writing in a novel called Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter was a little trite.

I dont think Malin's trying to say anyone owns it.. but with the phrasing that BDSM is a game.... the game of BDSM.

And I agree that she needs to learn to write the sex better.. or at least grab a thesaurus when doing it. Between all the Anita books and the Meredith books, if I have to read the exact same description of how she gives head... it's just .. very tell-tale LKH. She uses the same words, in the same books to describe pretty much every sex scene.

 

[EmpressFi]

If you can't tell, I'm a bit pissed off that I spent the $20 on a 500 page sex scene.

If I'm gonna read about sex there better be non-consent, blood, tears, humiliation, enslavement, etc... at least make it interesting.

For that you need to read the Meredith Gentry series... where there is Andais, queen of the dark seelie court (fairies) and she is one sadistic bitch

at least with that series sex is what you expect... I mean, when the main story is to get someone pregnant... you kinda expect sex

 

[malinborn]

i bought the first Kim Harrison book and it was pretty tough to get into it.. in fact i don't think i made it through the first chapter... need to try it again

Betticus's descriptions are not completely accurate with the amount of sex but it feels like it.. it really does. it got to the point where LKH promised to reduce the sex due to her gift and is coming up with other reasons to write the sex for the hell of it

 

[FurryFury]

i bought the first Kim Harrison book and it was pretty tough to get into it.. in fact i don't think i made it through the first chapter... need to try it again

Betticus's descriptions are not completely accurate with the amount of sex but it feels like it.. it really does. it got to the point where LKH promised to reduce the sex due to her gift and is coming up with other reasons to write the sex for the hell of it

The first book of Harrison's Dead Witch Walking series was a little difficult and slow. By the end I was interested. I really enjoyed each one more.

I felt the same way about The Dresden File books by Jim Butcher.

The first of LKH's Fairy books really pissed me off because at the end of it I still didn't know or care about the main character. The books after have gotten better for me.

I greatly dislike the fairy queen. Why do 99% of sadistic or top females have to be (quite literally) castrating and murdering bitches in fiction?

 

[FurryFury]

It's not just the guys. I was a huge fan before the never-ending sex-fest began. I love sex but Good Lord! Betticus had the synopsis dead on. But I have heard that she is getting back to more story now. I'm not sure I can wade through all the ones I've missed in order to catch up with the storyline though.

I agree, it's not just the guys. Some of my lady friends are pissed as hell too.

 

[malinborn]

Raina for the Win!!

I greatly dislike the fairy queen. Why do 99% of sadistic or top females have to be (quite literally) castrating and murdering bitches in fiction?

 

[caela]

The first book of Harrison's Dead Witch Walking series was a little difficult and slow. By the end I was interested. I really enjoyed each one more.

I felt the same way about The Dresden File books by Jim Butcher.

The first of LKH's Fairy books really pissed me off because at the end of it I still didn't know or care about the main character. The books after have gotten better for me.

I greatly dislike the fairy queen. Why do 99% of sadistic or top females have to be (quite literally) castrating and murdering bitches in fiction?

I agree about Harrison's books. They start slow but I think she does it to give a thorough set-up for the characters and by the end you're hooked. They do get progressively better since each one can focus more on storyline than setting up the world they live in. IMO.

As for Andais I have to admit that I love that character. I never really thought of it from the view of her being a Top so much because I never really looked at her as a sadist in the BDSM sense. Here is a woman that is a sadist in the truest sense of the word. She was worshiped as a goddess of war in her heyday and used to all but roll in her enemies blood. When it comes to sex I always got the impression that , with very few exception, she didn't give a damn if her partner had any pleasure in it at all...it was all about HER.

She is Queen Bitch of her little world (quite literally) and she makes no bones about it to anyone.

Raina for the Win!!

For all the reasons I like Andais you'd think I'd like Raina too but I cannot stand that bitch! lol I think it might be because she can actually kill her victims where, for the most part, Andais can inflict massive amounts of damage without killing hers. Not sure. ~shrugs~

 

[FurryFury]

Riana is the werewolf female alpha?

 

[the captians wench]

I am reading this series of books by Laurell K Hamilton called Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter. Okay, they are not called that but they are referred to that. The books started as great Horror/Drama/Mystery and slowly got more and more sexual as the series went on. Book eight ended the slight sexual contact and book nine began the slow downward spiral towards orgyfest. I do not mind sex but sex for sex sake in a series like this is not so great and it's not written so well... well now she is introducing BDSM and is not doing so very well... in fact her ideals behind it bother me.

The character is very straight laced and is learning to be more.. willing for her countless lovers.. and one is very into BDSM. Anyway the term gets tossed around often in the first pages of this book and the below paragraph came up and it just.. hit me.



Okay... maybe it is a game to many... to many it is nothing more then just a game to several.. but this statement just seems too.. clean cut for me. Too cut and dry and flat like this is all it is to anyone... instead of saying something more like "BDSM, for me, was like stripping.... ....that you would truly do what was promised."


I dunno... am I over-thinking this?

Well, when you are thinking to yourself do you add "for me"? When I read that little "for me" in there, it takes me away from thinking the character is saying this, to the author is trying to make a point, in other words, it breaks the illution.

Most people think BDSM is strickly bedroom games. *shrug* that's all that most people want, a little slap and tickle while you fuck me and then we go back to being two completely independant people. That's what most people can relate to and understand, so it makes more since that the author would write to the larger audience and keep it a fantasy game rather than a "life style" and to alude to the fact that there could be more out there would take you from the story into preaching gosple, I think anyway.

Just like the Gor novels. When he gets too preachy about where a woman's place is and the balance of nature and all of that, I stop "hearing" the character's voice and "hear" the author's insted, and I loose intrest.

 

[Betticus]

With the Hamilton books it feels like the author has become obsessed with her sexual fantasies and it using the stories which were once very good to work through those fantasies. I am not convinced that she's shedding off her personal sexual stuff and getting back to the storyline so I doubt that I'll read any more of her work.

The noir book, I literally skipped chapters. Skimmed a bit of each page, just a line or so then flipped. I could have torn out two thirds (not exaggerating) of that book and not missed ANY of the story.

 

[caela]

Riana is the werewolf female alpha?

Raina was the werewolf lupa under the Alpha before Richard. Richard killed the Alpha and Anita killed Raina, if I remember correctly.

 

[vampire28]

I don't mind the sex...although I think spending over 50 pages on one fuck is a bit excessive. I miss the action of the earlier books though. The only thing that keeps me reading the books is a fondness for some of the characters and the hope that Hamilton will bring back the action in the fight with Marmee Noir.

 

[FurryFury]

Raina was the werewolf lupa under the Alpha before Richard. Richard killed the Alpha and Anita killed Raina, if I remember correctly.

Right and now Anita has some of Raina inside her.