This is why I left last time

[Zeb_Carter]

Hell, Sci-Fi doesn't even need any sex in the story for most of that crowd. I had a host of comments on one of my sci-fi stories to the tune "Hell I would give this a 5 even if there were no sex in it."

Made my day those comments did.

 

[MSTarot]

If you want an experience writing a story with very little negative feedback (and you are indeed, a good writer) try writing in GM or scifi/fantasy. Very polite crowd.

Unless you try a cyberpunk story line. I've done two of them and gotten some rather bad comments. Maybe a bit too dark a genre for the category.

 

[JaxRhapsody]

Its like the howard stern effect, people who like him listen to see what happens next, those that hate him- do the same thing. They may say the story sucks but its actually so awesome to them, it pisses them off. They are angry over the fapping-gold youve given them because they want more if it. I just block retarded anon comments. Only the eBrave users leave nasty comments on my stuff as if it'll make it go away. Newsflash, I got more crappy stories to post and finish. I hope you hate them so much, you fap out of anger.

 

[patientlee]

Anon commenters- I always have the impression that they are flexing their puny literary muscles, hoping that someone will read their comments and recognize their superior thinking and writing skills. I always imagine that they are going back to read all the other comments, hoping that someone will point out their brilliant commentaries and praise their undiscovered writing and critiquing talents.

Also keep in mind that not every reader reads or understands the whole story, but many will comment as if he/she did. (And they are often skimming the story with one hand in their pants.) For example:


Horrible spelling and grammar spoils the read.
10/14/13 By: Anonymous
Don't you proof read your story or use a spell checker. At least have someone edit your story before you submit it.
I didn't even like the structure of the story with phony news items. It made it even more unreadable.
More a story with humor that sex.


Wasn't supposed to be humorous. It was satire. (Reader didn't understand that.) Horrible spelling was on purpose (to create the satire). WTF does "More a story with humor that sex." mean? It was a story about a teacher who gets fired for winning a basket of vibrators in a raffle. There was no intentional humor, but there was one masturbation scene.

This person was trying to tell me how much smarter he/she is than I am, but I think I got the last laugh.

Link to the story.

Good luck,
Lee

 

[lovecraft68]

I've written a lot of incest and although I have gotten some nasty ones, they are obviously from those whack jobs that think the category is disgusting(they have that right of course), but yet somehow are always in it, but feel the need to tell me how sick I am.

I think they reflect what a previous poster said. These are people that get truly upset this stuff turns them on and after getting turned on they need to lash out, but they are not the majority.

In general I find that crowd to be pretty happy go lucky. They have the type of fetish they cannot openly discuss and they are thrilled to come here and find it.

I find most categories to be pretty mellow and some downright lemming like in their inability to ever say anything bad or cast a bad vote(NH for example) the only one I see that gets some nastiness is non con and I think for the same reason, they got off and mow are ashamed.

That and non con seems to have this weird flawed nobility where they will trash a full out rape story even though by the definition of the category that is what one would expect.

But LW is the only consistently ridiculous category and at this point I believe it is becoming a contrived act, its expected. The posters are now competing to be ruder than the last one.

Think of LW as the GB of story categories.

 

[A_Little_Show]

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[lovecraft68]

My dilemma: (no categories for stories I like to write)

I am very interested in psychological aspects of eroticism. One of my favorite stories to write was "Wanting Impresario". http://www.literotica.com/s/wanting-impresario It responded to a challenge given by another Literotica author. The purpose was to explore aspects of Alpha Male characters. I chose to explore the (first person) emotions of a woman who wants the Alpha Male. I made her as close to perfect and self confident as possible. I introduced the overlooked "Competent Beta Male" for contrast. I hoped to explain why the Alpha is irresistible to the protagonist and why she won't be happy with him. The story was posted in Romance a couple of years ago and was not well received. When I reposted, it went into Exhibitionist / Voyeur where it has received a tepid response.

The story is not about exhibition even though it's in there. The story is not romantic in the traditional sense, but the protagonist romanticizes her relationship. There is a mystery component. The story peeks into an interesting sub-culture. It doesn't fit in any Literotica category.

I don't know where to find my audience.

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The specific story referenced by the comments at the start of this thread was actually the first erotic story I ever wrote. It reposted on Nov. 2. I think my writing has improved with practice since then. I'm fascinated by the differences in social convention and sexual mores between actors and audiences. The story is about an in-orgasmic actress who awakens to sexual satisfaction while "simulating" sex during the filming of a lusty made-for-pay-tv drama. [think Skinemax and HBO] http://www.literotica.com/s/simulated-sex She loves her husband but craves gratification she only receives on camera with her dashing leading man. She's feels guilt and shame and terror that her husband will somehow know what she has discovered. She dreads being disappointed by him in bed. She knows she will continue to seek pleasure the only way she can. [In real life they need counseling, but this is fiction. Maybe they get counseling after the story ends or embrace polyamory or something...]

The actress is obviously an exhibitionist. The sexual infidelity was neither premeditated nor initially outside the bounds of the protagonist's understanding of professional theater. It's just skin. It's portraying the human experience. It's simulated. It's acting... until it wasn't anymore. The story ended up in LW because no other category fit.

Even though I could write the story better today, its sociology and psychology are representative of my interests. I fear there is neither a category nor an audience for my writing here. The low score and high volume of vitriolic comments may not be persuasive, but they strongly suggest I find another venue for my writing or stop sharing it altogether.

Honestly on the "tv story" it could have worked in voyeur and exhibitionism. In some of those stories the psychological aspects of sex are explored more and many times are seen through the eyes of a person not involved in the sex.

For me, this would have went into erotic couplings which is sort of a catch all category, putting it in LW was a mistake from the get go, but LW by far gets more views and attention so Laurel moved it somewhere to her advantage not yours.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

My dilemma: (no categories for stories I like to write)

I am very interested in psychological aspects of eroticism. One of my favorite stories to write was "Wanting Impresario". http://www.literotica.com/s/wanting-impresario It responded to a challenge given by another Literotica author. The purpose was to explore aspects of Alpha Male characters. I chose to explore the (first person) emotions of a woman who wants the Alpha Male. I made her as close to perfect and self confident as possible. I introduced the overlooked "Competent Beta Male" for contrast. I hoped to explain why the Alpha is irresistible to the protagonist and why she won't be happy with him. The story was posted in Romance a couple of years ago and was not well received. When I reposted, it went into Exhibitionist / Voyeur where it has received a tepid response.

The story is not about exhibition even though it's in there. The story is not romantic in the traditional sense, but the protagonist romanticizes her relationship. There is a mystery component. The story peeks into an interesting sub-culture. It doesn't fit in any Literotica category.

I don't know where to find my audience.

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The specific story referenced by the comments at the start of this thread was actually the first erotic story I ever wrote. It reposted on Nov. 2. I think my writing has improved with practice since then. I'm fascinated by the differences in social convention and sexual mores between actors and audiences. The story is about an in-orgasmic actress who awakens to sexual satisfaction while "simulating" sex during the filming of a lusty made-for-pay-tv drama. [think Skinemax and HBO] http://www.literotica.com/s/simulated-sex She loves her husband but craves gratification she only receives on camera with her dashing leading man. She's feels guilt and shame and terror that her husband will somehow know what she has discovered. She dreads being disappointed by him in bed. She knows she will continue to seek pleasure the only way she can. [In real life they need counseling, but this is fiction. Maybe they get counseling after the story ends or embrace polyamory or something...]

The actress is obviously an exhibitionist. The sexual infidelity was neither premeditated nor initially outside the bounds of the protagonist's understanding of professional theater. It's just skin. It's portraying the human experience. It's simulated. It's acting... until it wasn't anymore. The story ended up in LW because no other category fit.

Even though I could write the story better today, its sociology and psychology are representative of my interests. I fear there is neither a category nor an audience for my writing here. The low score and high volume of vitriolic comments may not be persuasive, but they strongly suggest I find another venue for my writing or stop sharing it altogether.

Category selection makes all the difference in the world. Txtalltales just posted a good piece on this issue, to which I will try to come back and add a link. Or he night do it himself.

The first rule I follow is to avoid LW at all costs. That' like leaving your baby in a cage with rabid wild dogs. Unless your baby is a direwolf on steroids, I wouldn't do that.

From your description, I think your story would have done better in Exhibitionism and Voyeurism, or EC. EC is a good place to put stories that don't easily fit anywhere else. The best thing to do is to keep writing and develop a following. If you write it, they will cum.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My dilemma: (no categories for stories I like to write)

I am very interested in psychological aspects of eroticism. One of my favorite stories to write was "Wanting Impresario". http://www.literotica.com/s/wanting-impresario It responded to a challenge given by another Literotica author. The purpose was to explore aspects of Alpha Male characters. I chose to explore the (first person) emotions of a woman who wants the Alpha Male. I made her as close to perfect and self confident as possible. I introduced the overlooked "Competent Beta Male" for contrast. I hoped to explain why the Alpha is irresistible to the protagonist and why she won't be happy with him. The story was posted in Romance a couple of years ago and was not well received. When I reposted, it went into Exhibitionist / Voyeur where it has received a tepid response.

The story is not about exhibition even though it's in there. The story is not romantic in the traditional sense, but the protagonist romanticizes her relationship. There is a mystery component. The story peeks into an interesting sub-culture. It doesn't fit in any Literotica category.

I don't know where to find my audience.

---------

The specific story referenced by the comments at the start of this thread was actually the first erotic story I ever wrote. It reposted on Nov. 2. I think my writing has improved with practice since then. I'm fascinated by the differences in social convention and sexual mores between actors and audiences. The story is about an in-orgasmic actress who awakens to sexual satisfaction while "simulating" sex during the filming of a lusty made-for-pay-tv drama. [think Skinemax and HBO] http://www.literotica.com/s/simulated-sex She loves her husband but craves gratification she only receives on camera with her dashing leading man. She's feels guilt and shame and terror that her husband will somehow know what she has discovered. She dreads being disappointed by him in bed. She knows she will continue to seek pleasure the only way she can. [In real life they need counseling, but this is fiction. Maybe they get counseling after the story ends or embrace polyamory or something...]

The actress is obviously an exhibitionist. The sexual infidelity was neither premeditated nor initially outside the bounds of the protagonist's understanding of professional theater. It's just skin. It's portraying the human experience. It's simulated. It's acting... until it wasn't anymore. The story ended up in LW because no other category fit.

Even though I could write the story better today, its sociology and psychology are representative of my interests. I fear there is neither a category nor an audience for my writing here. The low score and high volume of vitriolic comments may not be persuasive, but they strongly suggest I find another venue for my writing or stop sharing it altogether.

Brace yourself and take a deep breath.

I looked at your scores and rolled my eyes at your angst. Get over yourself.

I said elsewhere that writers gotta find their niche and scratch the itch. Newbies are not gonna best LC or TEX or PILOT or PL or ML. Newbies gotta find a different patch of ground to plow. I like your writing, and I like the carny theme, but I gotta tell yuh you gotta learn the ropes about carnivals. Tampa is like their Mecca. The subject is ripe for writing material but you need to buy some clues about carnies, and their lives. There's gold there is you work it right.

And get some thin skin about your scores and comments. Most of your stories are above 4.

 

[Darkniciad]

Skimming through your list, I'm seeing a lot of decent scores. Other than the LW, your comments appear to be positive. You've got favorite listings building.

When you first start out, it takes a while for people to find you. Regardless of whether you've posted here before, in this pen name, you're a n00b. Your readership hasn't had time to discover you yet.

In the beginning - especially if your work pushes any boundaries - the naysayers are going to outnumber everyone else. That's only on the surface, though. The people who want to leave nasty comments and drop 1-bombs are far more active than the average reader. Joe and Jane reader are here for a fix, and when they get it, they tend to move on.

Don't be afraid to ask for category advice here. There are going to be situations where the crowd doesn't have any better ideas about how to categorize a story than you've come up with, but sometimes, you'll get useful insight.

You have interesting, complex ideas. In only a month or so, you're building a fanbase. Stick with it! Weather this storm, and you'll see the readers taking notice of you. Slowly but surely, they'll balance and then overwhelm the jackasses.

EDIT: Here's the link to TTT's category How-To:

http://www.literotica.com/s/love-your-readers-categories

 

[ScouriesWorld]

http://litavs.s3.amazonaws.com/001/076/0C1/1630193-9891_medium.jpg

This is why I left last time...Here's are the comments I received today: (update: every one of my other stories is down 0.2 points in the ratings overnight knocking them out of red H territory .)

Poor little baby!

You shoulda stayed away - then at least we wouldn't have been bombarded by a tide of second rate stories during the latest theme contest.

In a month you've dumped about twenty offerings on the site in all sorts of different categories. Who do you think you are - SamuelX or ace?

Quite frankly my friend we already have enough "survivalists" and "cry babies" on the site.

TAKE A HIKE! ​

 

[Zeb_Carter]

http://litavs.s3.amazonaws.com/001/076/0C1/1630193-9891_medium.jpg

Poor little baby!

You shoulda stayed away - then at least we wouldn't have been bombarded by a tide of second rate stories during the latest theme contest.

In a month you've dumped about twenty offerings on the site in all sorts of different categories. Who do you think you are - SamuelX or ace?

Quite frankly my friend we already have enough "survivalists" and "cry babies" on the site.

TAKE A HIKE! ​

Dickhead alert!

 

[Cruel2BKind]

When you stay away from LW, the worst comments you get are the ones with a grain of truth in them.

Some of the meanest comments I get are about how dark my stories are. And even if I disagree with their dislike, or think that the darkness of my stories has artistic merit, they ARE telling the truth.

 

[mary_aranxia]

Nothing has changed on Literotica, has it? That's why I'll be leaving again.

 

[lovecraft68]

Scouries is just jealous cause he only writes a story once a year these days, if that.

 

[TxRad]

Nothing has changed on Literotica, has it? That's why I'll be leaving again.

And they win again and you lose again. That is the reason for trolls. Ignore them and they will get tired of not getting a rise. That is what they want.

 

[mary_aranxia]

And they win again and you lose again. That is the reason for trolls. Ignore them and they will get tired of not getting a rise. That is what they want.

I appreciate fully what you're saying. It's just that literature is supposed to be such a civilizing force, and it is anything but that here, so much of the time.

There are times when I wonder if some of the readers here have genuine personality disorders that need urgent medical attention. It's just unpleasant to be here sometimes.

I have largely packed up my two accounts here on Lit, and gone off to set up my own site where I publish my stories and poems. I don't have nearly as many readers and commentators, but I do have peace of mind and self-respect.

 

[lovecraft68]

This could be cut down-not erased, but seriously cut down- by making it so registered users are the only ones able to post comments.

Although even with a "handle" you are still anonymous I notice a hell of a lot less nastiness coming from people who use a name.

But, why would that ever happen?

 

[AltruisticDelights]

And they win again and you lose again. That is the reason for trolls. Ignore them and they will get tired of not getting a rise. That is what they want.

That was exactly what I was going to say. This post is giving trolls exactly what they want. This is going to enable their behavior further and prove that you are a ripe target. If anything you are bringing attention to their comments that might have previously gone unnoticed. I hope you continue to write here, and don't take the negativity too personally.

 

[RejectReality]

http://www.literotica.com/members/main_options.php

It's something to consider. Lit provides you the means to block anonymous comments if you so choose.

That could be extended to voting, but having it be an author choice creates a situation where those who turn off voting to unregistered members will tend to have much higher scores than those who don't.

 

[lovecraft68]

http://www.literotica.com/members/main_options.php

It's something to consider. Lit provides you the means to block anonymous comments if you so choose.

That could be extended to voting, but having it be an author choice creates a situation where those who turn off voting to unregistered members will tend to have much higher scores than those who don't.

I think why most don't click that is because then they lose the "good" anonymous feedback and there is a lot of that.

Categories like incest where people may not want anyone to know they read is full of a lot of positive anon feedback.

So I think its the fear of losing the good that makes people chance the bad.

Honestly, and I am not trying to bust anyone's balls, but know what feature would make everyone happy?

"check this box to only receive positive glowing feedback"

Now that is a feature that would become pretty popular.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I think why most don't click that is because then they lose the "good" anonymous feedback and there is a lot of that.

Categories like incest where people may not want anyone to know they read is full of a lot of positive anon feedback.

So I think its the fear of losing the good that makes people chance the bad.

Honestly, and I am not trying to bust anyone's balls, but know what feature would make everyone happy?

"check this box to only receive positive glowing feedback"

Now that is a feature that would become pretty popular.

Lets do this: Glynndah can award ruby red slippers to all submitters.

 

[RejectReality]

I think why most don't click that is because then they lose the "good" anonymous feedback and there is a lot of that.

So, why should the site adopt a policy that undoubtedly reduces feedback by dramatic amounts and force it upon everyone?

 

[lovecraft68]

So, why should the site adopt a policy that undoubtedly reduces feedback by dramatic amounts and force it upon everyone?

Personally I don't care, but considering the amount of "bad feedback what do I do" threads is seems to be an issue and maybe the site should be open to it.

But its not worth getting in a twist over as whether it would be warranted or not there is no interest whatsoever on the part of the site to do anything the authors would like anyway.

 

[horrorotica]

For a category that has the word 'Loving' in it you certainly seem to find little inside it. I'm tempted to write a LW story just to see how much awful feedback I can get just to troll the readers. Tell me some of the no no's for the category and I'll write a story using them all on steroids and see how much hate I can generate.