This is news to me: Black Caucus Silent on Rather's Racial Slur

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Wednesday, July 25, 2001
WASHINGTON - Prominent members of the Congressional Black Caucus have refused to make any comment on Dan Rather’s racial slur.
Of the 37 members of the caucus, NewsMax.com attempted to elicit comment from eight of the most high-profile or outspoken lawmakers.

In each case, we read and offered to fax Rather’s exact words on the Don Imus radio program Thursday.

Imus’s invitation was prompted by the news anchor’s ignoring the Chandra Levy case. At the behest of CBS executives, Rather finally broke the silence on Wednesday and grudgingly referred to it as one of several thousand missing persons cases. This, of course, ignores the fact that a congressman, Rep. Gary Condit, D-Calif., was involved and that allegations of obstruction of justice had been added to the mix.

In each case, NewsMax.com read and/or faxed to the members staffers the following Rather comment:

"What happened was they [CBS management] got the willies, they got the Buckwheats. Their knees wobbled and we gave it up.”

We also pointed out that a California civil rights leader, the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson had denounced the remark as "demeaning to African-Americans.”

The lawmakers from whom we attempted to get comments on this were:

Reps. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas, chairwoman of the Caucus; Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill.; Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., ranking member on the House Ways and Means Committee; John Conyers, D-Mich., ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Melvin Watt, D-N.C.; Albert Wynn, D-Md., best known this session for co-sponsoring a bipartisan alternative to the anti-First Amendment campaign finance "reform” bill; and Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y.

Some of the staffers, while promising to ask their bosses about the comment, did not hold out much hope that there would be a response.

"I don’t think he’s going to want to say anything about a remark from a TV commentator,” said Rangel spokesman Emile Milne, who serves not only as press secretary, but also Rangel’s legislative director. His reaction reflected a reluctance elsewhere amongst Black Caucus members.

The thundering silence on Capitol Hill is in stark contrast to the frenzy that ensued in 1992 when then Vice President Dan Quayle simply stated that the TV sitcom character Murphy Brown’s decision to give birth out of wedlock was not helping in the fight against teen pregnancy. At that time, every editor in Washington seemed to believe that every public official should join a pile-on chorus and voice an opinion on Murphy Brown.

Quayle had not insulted anyone. He had just stated an undeniable truth.

Lawmakers have every right, of course, to withhold comment on this or any other issue. But one must ask: Would they be just as reticent to comment if Rush Limbaugh had made the remarks that Dan Rather uttered?
 
Dan Rather was the first African American anchor of a major news organization. Much like Bill Clinton.
 
The Buckwheats?

I've never heard of that expression before. I think before I'd want to comment on something like that I'd like to actually HEAR what Rather said, instead of reading a transcription from a news organization not known for its rigorous, unbiased reporting. It sounds like someone confused "Buckwheats" for some other word. I doubt Rather is so stupid as to make such a bizarre jackass comment. "Buckwheats"?

I rarely watch CBS News, but I would find it very odd if they hadn't run a single story about Chandra Levy's disappearance. It's been the biggest story in the country for about two weeks, and not covering it would make CBS a laughingstock. Whether you think it's "just another missing person's story" or not, it involves a sitting US congressman who had an affair with the missing girl and at first denied that affair. That's news. Tawdry, but still news.
 
Re: The Buckwheats?

christo said:
I've never heard of that expression before. I think before I'd want to comment on something like that I'd like to actually HEAR what Rather said, instead of reading a transcription from a news organization not known for its rigorous, unbiased reporting. It sounds like someone confused "Buckwheats" for some other word. I doubt Rather is so stupid as to make such a bizarre jackass comment. "Buckwheats"?

Here is something I noticed. Buckwheats, when Rather is quoted, isn't capitalized. Is it possible that he isn't referring to the lil' Rascal that Eddie Murphy made so famous but the actualy grain product that is buckwheat??? Just a thought.
 
I applauded CBS restraint in this day and age of sleaze journalism even on the networks, especially NBC. I was glad that Rather referred to it as one of several thousand cases, he put it all in its rightful perspective.

As for the buckwheats, it may be one of those strange Southern expressions we have devoted an entire long thread to recently. Sometimes expressions have such a deep history, no one is sure what it means.

Saying it's racist is like when that Washington DC civil servant was fired fro using the word "niggardly" a word that has nothing to do with race. Who knows where the phrase came from?

It may be possible that, and I am guessing here, buckwheats is an old name for Cream of Wheat, the wheat based porridge that takes mounds of honey or brown sugar to stomach...
 
Re: The Buckwheats?

christo said:
I've never heard of that expression before. I think before I'd want to comment on something like that I'd like to actually HEAR what Rather said, instead of reading a transcription from a news organization not known for its rigorous, unbiased reporting. It sounds like someone confused "Buckwheats" for some other word. I doubt Rather is so stupid as to make such a bizarre jackass comment. "Buckwheats"?

I rarely watch CBS News, but I would find it very odd if they hadn't run a single story about Chandra Levy's disappearance. It's been the biggest story in the country for about two weeks, and not covering it would make CBS a laughingstock. Whether you think it's "just another missing person's story" or not, it involves a sitting US congressman who had an affair with the missing girl and at first denied that affair. That's news. Tawdry, but still news.

They didn't carry the Jenna Bush story either. Hopefully another person of power wont get off with obstruction of justice. Then it will be news. The Levy story is about all the cable news covers
 
Miles, this is idiotic. "Buckwheats" is racial slur? Do you honestly think Dan Rather would use an obvious racial slur on a national radio show? OBVIOULSY it's not, OBVIOULSY it's being taken the wrong way by a small sect, and OBVIOUSLY everyone with more than a double digit IQ knows that, and THAT'S why there's no comment on it.

Christ I've had it up to my eyeballs with these pissy non-stories where misheard "tone", PC pique and blinder-set agendas have replaced ACTUALLY HAVING TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE COMMONSENSE TRUTH OF THE SITUATION.

And how this relates to Dan Quayle I have no idea. You'r streeeeeeeeeeeeeetching big time here to make a tiny point.

*sigh*

Sorry, Miles, this isn't about you. I'm just terrified because every day Bill Maher is starting to sound smarter and smarter.
 
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DCL

Whoaaa!!!

Who shit in your Wheaties this morning?

Sorry, Miles, this isn't about you

What's that supposed to mean?

Obviously you didn't read (or comprehend) the post. The first thing I said was "this is news to me." In other words "why haven't I heard about this yet." The rest of the post was pasted from an article. I can see how you may have thought they were my comments.

Someone responded by saying "they would find it very odd" that Rather didn't mention the story until last week. He also said he can't believe Rather would make "such a jackass statement". I followed that with the URL's to two articles and the soundbyte.

Obviously several people don't know who/what Buckwheat was, and I posted his picture. Now they know.

You're absolutely right - this isn't about me. I don't know why you think it's all about you.
 
If Dan Rather did make a racist slur, and if he is trying to fuck over minorities, it probably just means that he's trying to get a job at Fox. also known as the Klu Klux Knetwork. Bill Oreilly and Rush are racist white guys and they seem to do just fine in the middle of the country.
 
Unregistered said:
If Dan Rather did make a racist slur, and if he is trying to fuck over minorities, it probably just means that he's trying to get a job at Fox. also known as the Klu Klux Knetwork. Bill Oreilly and Rush are racist white guys and they seem to do just fine in the middle of the country.

What has Bill ever said that was racist?
 
miles said:

The thundering silence on Capitol Hill is in stark contrast to the frenzy that ensued in 1992 when then Vice President Dan Quayle simply stated that the TV sitcom character Murphy Brown’s decision to give birth out of wedlock was not helping in the fight against teen pregnancy. At that time, every editor in Washington seemed to believe that every public official should join a pile-on chorus and voice an opinion on Murphy Brown.

Quayle had not insulted anyone. He had just stated an undeniable truth.

Actually as I recall Quayle's comment on Murphy Brown was about single motherhood not teen pregnancy. By saying what he said he did insult single mothers(If memory serves me. I was a young lad in 92)

Regardless it was a jaw droppingly stupid thing to say. But, if I may ask, how is it an undeniable truth? Do republicans get to claim victory in a political debate by saying "Wrong! It's an undeniable truth. No arguing!!!"
 
Undeniable truth?

U.S. Teen Births Fall to Record Low
By ERIN McCLAM, Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA (AP) - The teen birth rate fell to a record low in the United States last year, continuing a steady drop that began in the 1990s, the government said Tuesday.

For every 1,000 females ages 15 to 19, there were 48.7 births last year - the lowest rate in the six decades the statistic has been kept, the National Center for Health Statistics said.

Last year was the ninth straight year the rate has declined. It has dropped 22 percent since 1991.

``The continued decline in the teen birth rate is very encouraging news,'' said Health and Human Services (news - web sites) Secretary Tommy Thompson. ``When teens postpone parenthood, it benefits not only their lives, but society as a whole.''

Analysts have attributed the decline to factors including more awareness of HIV (news - web sites)/AIDS (news - web sites), more effective forms of contraception, increased abstinence, and the economic boom of the 1990s, which led many teens to put off starting families so they could take jobs.

``The short answer is less sex and more contraception,'' said Bill Albert, a spokesman for the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. ``There's plenty of evidence to suggest that teens, believe it or not, are taking a more cautious attitude toward casual sex.''

Teen births were at their highest in the 1950s - an age when couples got married much earlier than today. The nation's highest teen birth rate was in 1957, roughly 96 births per 1,000.

The report was part of a larger annual government study of births. The CDC said it recorded slightly more than 4 million births in the United States in 2000 - up about 3 percent from 1999 and the highest number in nearly a decade.

The proportion of babies born by Caesarean section rose to nearly 23 percent, the highest level since the data first became available in 1989. The birth rate for unmarried women rose slightly.
 
Clintons legacy said:
Undeniable truth?

U.S. Teen Births Fall to Record Low
By ERIN McCLAM, Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA (AP) - The teen birth rate fell to a record low in the United States last year, continuing a steady drop that began in the 1990s, the government said Tuesday.

For every 1,000 females ages 15 to 19, there were 48.7 births last year - the lowest rate in the six decades the statistic has been kept, the National Center for Health Statistics said.

Last year was the ninth straight year the rate has declined. It has dropped 22 percent since 1991.

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There is a correlation between the number of mosquitos and the number of baseball games played in America but it doesn't mean the two things are related. If you read the article the decline began under Bush Sr.
 
Ohhh...

Now that you mention it, "buckwheats", lower case, is a pretty funny euphemism for the shits. After a lifetime of hating Cream of Wheat, it's consistency, I should've thought of that one.

I think Rather used the expression in an attempt to show that he's a human being, and not some kind of odd anchorcyborg.
 
after some consultation with others I have also heard that the buckwheat plant, where buckwheat comes from, is especially malleable and bends to the slightest breeze

Thus, the real meaning of "buckwheats," as racist as the phrase "tilting at windmills" Rather was not trying to imply that his bosses were small black children with bad hair and speech impediments, he was comparing them to grass blowinbg in the breeze

Whoever called him racist on the basis of that comment served notice of their own ignorance.
 
if you have ever seen Rather on Letterman, he's not just trying to sound human, he is damned funny
 
Rather was not trying to imply that his bosses were small black children with bad hair and speech impediments, he was comparing them to grass blowinbg in the breeze


Well, that settles it! What an insult. My gutless bosses are like grass blowing in the breeze!
 
miles said:
Whoaaa!!! Who shit in your Wheaties this morning?

Toucan Sam.

miles said:
Sorry, Miles, this isn't about you

What's that supposed to mean?

Just what I said. I wasn't railing against you. I was railing against another conspiracy laden race baiting non-story -- not the messenger. I like you. I really, really like you.

miles said:
You're absolutely right - this isn't about me. I don't know why you think it's all about you.

Dude, it's ALL about me.
 
Dixon Carter Lee

Toucan Sam is the Fruit Loops thingie.

Besides, Toucans shit pellets.
 
You guessed it, Cha-Cha.

If anyone thinks it's easy getting a toucan to shit colored bagel seeds.............
 
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