"This is a holy war, just like in the bible." Are you FUCKING kidding me?

[Lee Chambers]

At work today I happened to stumble upon a conversation a few guys were having about the upcoming election, the candidates, and being a man who likes to talk a little politics I jumped in and we discussed things. But when I started to state that the "war on terror" has really become a war of ideologies, before I could even get the fucking phrase out of my mouth, this guy interrupts me and says "It's a Holy War. Just like in the bible. The end is coming and it doesn't matter what you believe cause Jesus is going to come back and wipe everything out."

I proceeded to clock back in from my lunch break and went back into my work area.

Now as a rule I don't put a lot of stock into what your average construction worker has to say because they tend to make gross generalizations and over-simplifications (and these can swing either far left or far right, even here in Texas).

But give me a fucking break? Are we still playing out this old God damned song and dance? Are we still quoting mother fucking revelations? Didn't we go through this BULLSHIT during the turn of the millennium and Y2k?

So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here believe or know anyone who believes that the mother fucking world is still coming to an end (in the biblical sense with the four horsemen and armageddon and the son of the devil and all that).

 

[SeaCat]

At work today I happened to stumble upon a conversation a few guys were having about the upcoming election, the candidates, and being a man who likes to talk a little politics I jumped in and we discussed things. But when I started to state that the "war on terror" has really become a war of ideologies, before I could even get the fucking phrase out of my mouth, this guy interrupts me and says "It's a Holy War. Just like in the bible. The end is coming and it doesn't matter what you believe cause Jesus is going to come back and wipe everything out."

I proceeded to clock back in from my lunch break and went back into my work area.

Now as a rule I don't put a lot of stock into what your average construction worker has to say because they tend to make gross generalizations and over-simplifications (and these can swing either far left or far right, even here in Texas).

But give me a fucking break? Are we still playing out this old God damned song and dance? Are we still quoting mother fucking revelations? Didn't we go through this BULLSHIT during the turn of the millennium and Y2k?

So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here believe or know anyone who believes that the mother fucking world is still coming to an end (in the biblical sense with the four horsemen and armageddon and the son of the devil and all that).

Only about 1/3 of my patients.

Cat

 

[3113]

"It's a Holy War. Just like in the bible. The end is coming and it doesn't matter what you believe cause Jesus is going to come back and wipe everything out."

So, ah, why's this guy still at work?

And I am confused about your skepticism, Lee. I'd think after the gummi bear incident, you'd be a believer. Do you really need a more potent sign that that?

 

[Lee Chambers]

So, ah, why's this guy still at work?

That's a good question. Next time someone brings this shit up I just might ask that.

 

[Lee Chambers]

Only about 1/3 of my patients.

Cat

See, that's why I could never do the job you do, because I would kill too many people for their stupidity.

So please, take this offering of respect for your fine works of human compassion and humiliation (of stupid people, which can be better than killing them ).

 

[rgraham666]

I'm impressed you could still move.

If that happened to me I'd probably still be standing there, my feeble brain trying to make sense out of that statement.

 

[Lee Chambers]

I'm impressed you could still move.

If that happened to me I'd probably still be standing there, my feeble brain trying to make sense out of that statement.

Yeah, well we also have this older guy who watches the front gate (not guards, watches). His statement was almost as bad when he started bitching about the Democrats and how we could have won Vietnam if we had stayed in there.

 

[biggsmall0669]

the god part? no... the end of the world.. yes... check some of the crazy shit that is supposed to happen in 2012.... polar shifts, meteors, solar flares that could burn the atmosphere off... but hey.. it's probably all bullshit...

 

[S-Des]

Um, yeah . . . several thousand (or more). Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation Of Islam is from Chicago. He has preached that he was brought up to the mother ship (which is circling the earth and waiting for a time to wipe out all white people) and shown what is to come. Hell, I hear atheists around here talk about the end of the world on a regular basis.

 

[cloudy]

the god part? no... the end of the world.. yes... check some of the crazy shit that is supposed to happen in 2012.... polar shifts, meteors, solar flares that could burn the atmosphere off... but hey.. it's probably all bullshit...

sheer conjecture, all of it, based on the Mayan Long Calendar, which ends abruptly on December 21, 2012.

 

[biggsmall0669]

actually, the meteor and the solar flares aren't mayan prophecy... it's science... the meteor is already approaching, and the solar flares are supposed to get evil in '12 because of a certain way the planets are supposed to configure and slightly alter solar gravity....

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

I'd love to figure out out to get my political adversaries to chase me on chariots through Wisconsin, wave a cool staff at the sky in a portentuous way when I came to Lake Michigan, have the waters part, run across (I'd actually want to drive a four-wheel-drive SUV because it would be mucky and it's a hundred miles across), hop out and look back when I get to the other side, look up and wink, and then thumb my nose at my pursuing opposition as the waters crashed down upon them.

That would be cool.



(Would that be prohibited by McCain-Feingold? )

 

[DeeZire]

I proceeded to clock back in from my lunch break and went back into my work area.

I feel your pain. I actually quit a job of 17 years in part because the boss' right wing blather was annoying to the point that it wasn't worth what he was paying me to listen to it. (I also quit because there were no retirement benefits, and the workplace was unhealthy, but what else would you expect from a guy like that?)

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Oh wait a minute - I misread the OP and thought it was some nut looking at US electoral politics like a holy war . . .

On the "war on terror" thing, obviously that Biblical stuff is a bunch of nonsense, but it's a fact that a lot of people in the Islamic world view this in terms of a "war of civilizations" that goes almost all the way back to the beginning of Islam, or at least to the Battle of Tours in 732, when Charles Martel decisively turned back the Islamic advance into Gaul. Certainly Osama views the conflict in these terms - his manifesto refers to "reclaiming" "Andalus" for Islam - Spain. (Nothing in it about self-determination, I'm afraid.)

I'm not saying we should look at it in the same terms, and as has been noted in other threads on the issue there is no monolithic "Islam" of the type the "holy warriors" in the OP fear, but it's foolish to not acknowledge that millions of people of that faith hate us for what we believe (or don't believe), and view the world in just those kind of terms. Sometimes that hatred motivates some of them to do bad things like fly airplanes into big buildings.

 

[3113]

Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation Of Islam is from Chicago. He has preached that he was brought up to the mother ship (which is circling the earth and waiting for a time to wipe out all white people)

True. But we pesky white folk keep hiding behind the minorities so the ship can't get a clear shot at us

 

[Lee Chambers]

True. But we pesky white folk keep hiding behind the minorities so the ship can't get a clear shot at us

I'm only half-white, so their sensors can't get a lock on me.

 

[S-Des]

True. But we pesky white folk keep hiding behind the minorities so the ship can't get a clear shot at us

I've told a number of lovely African American women that I'd like to get behind them, but never thought to use that as reason. You think it might work?

 

[Liar]

At work today I happened to stumble upon a conversation a few guys were having about the upcoming election, the candidates, and being a man who likes to talk a little politics I jumped in and we discussed things. But when I started to state that the "war on terror" has really become a war of ideologies, before I could even get the fucking phrase out of my mouth, this guy interrupts me and says "It's a Holy War. Just like in the bible. The end is coming and it doesn't matter what you believe cause Jesus is going to come back and wipe everything out."

If I thought the Rapture was around the corner... would I bother to go to work?

 

[DeeZire]

If I thought the Rapture was around the corner... would I bother to go to work?

Are they a band? I don't get cable TV anymore, so I'm kind of out of touch.

 

[john-the-author]

I've seen this way too often to actually be that surprised, although I find it completely disgusting every time I do. People like that almost always have no reason to exist on a planet that's discovered both penicillin and birth control.

Stupid fucking fundamentalists.

Who says America doesn't have a peasant class?