thinking of claiming a 'religious exemption' from vaccines?

[butters]

an uptick in jumping on the old 'fetal cells' bandwagon in order to claim a religious exemption means there's a whole long list of things you can't be taking, either

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/religion-anti-vax/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7891

A hospital system in Arkansas is making it a bit more difficult for staff to receive a religious exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital is now requiring staff to also swear off extremely common medicines, such as Tylenol, Tums, and even Preparation H, to get the exemption.
The move was prompted when Conway Regional Health System noted an unusual uptick in vaccine exemption requests that cited the use of fetal cell lines in the development and testing of the vaccines.

The list of common over-the-counter medications (as well as commonly prescribed drugs) which were developed, produced, or tested in manners similar to the developmental COVID-19 vaccines, using descendant lines from old fetal cells encompasses just about anything you would commonly turn to for headache, allergy, or indigestion relief:

The list includes Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, albuterol, Preparation H, MMR vaccine, Claritin, Zoloft, Prilosec OTC, and azithromycin.

Under Conway Regional's procedure, an employee seeking a "religious exemption" must also swear off these medicines, whose historical development, pre- and post-production testing or production processes involved using fetal cell lines in the same manner as that of the COVID-19 vaccines. As Mole reports, if the employee refuses to sign an attestation swearing that they will not consume these common medicines "and any others like them," they are granted only a temporary exemption from the vaccination policy, presumably to give them enough time to find another job. The attestation itself notes that they will again be asked to either sign it or get vaccinated under potential penalty of termination or other disciplinary action.

 

[pecksniff]

Things are simpler for Christian Scientists . . .

 

[butters]

Things are simpler for Christian Scientists . . .

It’s almost impossible to find a religion that has a clear anti-vaccine stance. As articles about religious schools with measles outbreaks are quick to point out, even if one spokesperson claims vaccination is against the group’s beliefs, there is always a second spokesperson who will contradict that claim. On Wednesday, WNYC quoted ultra-Orthodox Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky, who told a Baltimore paper this past summer that vaccines are a hoax. But, it should be noted, he didn’t raise any religious objections to them. Avi Shafran, a spokesman for Agudath Israel, of which Kamenetsky is a member of the board of rabbis, told WNYC in a wavering and inconclusive Chris Christie–style email: “It would be wrong, I think, to vilify those who opt to not vaccinate their children, or to postpone vaccinations. … But it would be equally wrong to ignore the clear science regarding the issue.” Making it pretty clear that while they don’t want to force anyone to vaccinate, they have no religious objection.

Indeed, most religions that are dragged into this debate don’t actually oppose vaccination. In 2013, John Grabenstein, the executive director for global health and medical affairs for Merck (which may lead conspiracy theorists to claim he is just shilling for Big Pharma), wrote a paper for the journal Vaccine outlining the purported religious objections. His conclusion: The only two religions that have any possible negative stance (though it’s not even clear that they do) on vaccination are Christian Scientists and the Dutch Reformed Church.

The Christian Scientists’ stance can be a bit tricky to ascertain, as they’re known to be excessively secretive about their thoughts on modern medicine. While they believe diseases can be cured through prayer, they don’t seem to have an official stance when it comes to preventive actions like vaccines. That being said, Grabenstein quotes Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of the Church of Christ, Scientist, as saying, “Rather than quarrel over vaccination, I recommend, if the law demand, that an individual submit to this process, that he obey the law, and then appeal to the gospel to save him from bad physical results.”

https://slate.com/technology/2015/0...ntists-catholics-and-dutch-reform-church.html

 

[pecksniff]

Dutch Reformed Church -- they're Calvinists, aren't they? Maybe vaccination would express doubt in predestination?

 

[Lazaran]

.
They will lie about the religious exemption, then lie about not taking any of the other listed medications, and they will STILL be working unvaccinated around people whose health is already compromised for whatever reasons.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I think that in 10 years everyone who was vaccinated, their genes will start to mutate and we'll all get superpowers. Then the purebloods will try to hunt us down but we will crush them because we have superpowers. I'm sure that eventually they will come up with something that will hunt us down like time travelling robots or something.

 

[Cubantripod]

The more you keep pushing the vaccine, the more resistance you will get.

 

[colddiesel]

The most effective way to ensure all health workers get vaccinated would be to advise those who are unvaccinated that they will be joined as defendants in any litigation from anyone treated by the facility who contracts Covid and decides to sue.

Fear of a big hole in their pocket books ( wallets) will be more effective than a tiny hole in their arm.

 

[KeithD]

The most effective way to ensure all health workers get vaccinated would be to advise those who are unvaccinated that they will be joined as defendants in any litigation from anyone treated by the facility who contracts Covid and decides to sue.

Fear of a big hole in their pocket books ( wallets) will be more effective than a tiny hole in their arm.

Agreed. They certainly don't get the concept of "first do no harm."

 

[CornusKousa]

Butters and the other psychotic control freaks have a circle jerk over their hatred of freedom and liberty in the USA.

Leftist to the core.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Only time I ever claimed a religious exemption was when I had a job that started mandatory Sundays. Sorry, cant do it. Gotta go to church.
I am sure the boils and plagues that came later were just coincidence.

 

[Cubantripod]

The most effective way to ensure all health workers get vaccinated would be to advise those who are unvaccinated that they will be joined as defendants in any litigation from anyone treated by the facility who contracts Covid and decides to sue.

Fear of a big hole in their pocket books ( wallets) will be more effective than a tiny hole in their arm.

Then when you can't prove who actually caused the infection and the lawsuit fails, you get sued for harassment and abuse of process. You didn't think it through did you google lawyer?

 

[Dribble]

The most effective way to ensure all health workers get vaccinated would be to advise those who are unvaccinated that they will be joined as defendants in any litigation from anyone treated by the facility who contracts Covid and decides to sue.

Fear of a big hole in their pocket books ( wallets) will be more effective than a tiny hole in their arm.

Agreed. They certainly don't get the concept of "first do no harm."

We have all seen a wide disparity in the quality of care. Who hasn't seen someone pushing the call button...waiting forever for a response...not getting it...and finally walking out to the nurses desk to see all the fucking chairs filled? It is these same staff members that don't want to get vaccinated. Get rid of them and find new.

Same goes for the police staff....and educational staff...

 

[Cubantripod]

Same goes for the police staff....and educational staff...

Your precious unions are the problem there.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Butters and the other psychotic control freaks have a circle jerk over their hatred of freedom and liberty in the USA.

Leftist to the core.

Why don't the people who own the hospital get freedom?

 

[jaF0]

So, There!!!!


Texas Megachurch Leader: 'No Credible Religious Argument' for COVID Vaccine Exemptions

Jeffres said he and his staff, which oversee his 12,000-member church, "are neither offering nor encouraging members to seek religious exemptions from the vaccine mandates."

https://www.newsweek.com/texas-mega...ous-argument-covid-vaccine-exemptions-1630851

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The more you keep pushing the vaccine, the more resistance you will get.

We are using reverse psychology. You'll never get the vaccine if we tell you to. We all hope you die so we can eat your babies.

 

[CornusKousa]

Why don't the people who own the hospital get freedom?

IDK, probably because some psychotic control freaks like you regulated it as such.

 

[ll74]

The more you keep pushing the vaccine, the more resistance you will get.

I'm not "pushing" the vaccine. I'm providing facts, like that the vaccine is safe and effective and one of the major ways we make it through the pandemic.

And then I'm ridiculing idiots who believe shit they read on the internet rather than talking to their doctor to find out facts about the vaccine.

Resistance isn't coming as a result of anything I'm doing.....it's coming from stupid people who can't be bothered to do a small thing to make a big difference in the world (pretty much with any damn thing that exists outside their small orbit) and that believe that anything they do that is a recommendation of anyone in an authority position is a sign of weakness that they can't show no matter the circumstances.

And that resistance isn't made or broken by anything I do....rightfully so.....it should be broken by education and conversations with health experts and a dash of common sense.

 

[pecksniff]

The more you keep pushing the vaccine, the more resistance you will get.

That's as much as to say that "religious" objections are only a pretext.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

IDK, probably because some psychotic control freaks like you regulated it as such.

I haven’t, but I understand you really can’t defend your position.