Things will be slightly better when Trump visits NK (& Iran will test its first nuke)

[DMBFFF]

Things will be slightly better when Trump visits NK (& Iran will test its first nuke)

I think things will be slightly better when Trump visits North Korea—at least in regards to the Korean peninsula; but partially as a result, Iran—and maybe other countries—will test its first nuke within 10 years.



The precedent is being set:

Libya and Ukraine gave up their WMD: and one was overthrown and the other is being eaten alive by Trump's overlord.

North Korea was (perhaps still is) bellicose to the US, launches ICBMs, and detonates H-bombs, and they'll get a visit by the self-aggrandizer, and sucker for ego-stroking, Trump.



If Iran detonated a nuke, there's little the US could do: after all, the US couldn't successfully invade, much less occupy long term. Iran not Iraq: Iran is perhaps twice the size and population as Iraq, not as flat, and more homogeneous; and somewhat unlike Iraq, it's a real country—Persia.

Moreover, it's in cahoots with Putin.


I suppose once Iran detonates nukes, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey will want them.

Japan will want nukes so it can stand up to China and North Korea—and they won't want to be sold out like South Korea was (somewhat at least) by Trump.



Nukes are a status symbol.



What say you all?

 

[Hypoxia]

What say you all?

"Boom goes London
And boom Pa-ree
More room for you
And more room for me"​

I foresee the gloomy solution to the Fermi Paradox. SPOILER: We detect no signs of ET life because technical civilizations destroy themselves.

Once the nukes start popping, they won't stop till there's nothing left to nuke. We're heading for an extinction event, folks. We're doomed. Send me all your money because it won't help you any.

 

[KeithD]

Who has said Trump is going to visit North Korea? The venue he mentioned where the North and South Korean leaders met isn't North Korea.

 

[Hypoxia]

Who has said Trump is going to visit North Korea? The venue he mentioned where the North and South Korean leaders met isn't North Korea.

Trump says he’s considering meeting North Korea’s Kim in DMZ

DMZ is close enough to DPRK for a snatch. Yeah, a snatch! Just suppose Kim kidnaps Tromp and hold him for ransom. Will the US say, "Eh, keep him." ??

 

[KeithD]

North Korea hasn't snatched people for years. Now they just snuff them where they stand.

 

[Hypoxia]

North Korea hasn't snatched people for years. Now they just snuff them where they stand.

Tromp is too juicy a prize to merely off, even with a cannon. (Don't miss the colorful slo-mo replays.) Kim will find humiliation more rewarding. Tromp in a French maid's costume, licking Kim's shoes. NOBODY would dare fuck with Kim after that.

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

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[DMBFFF]

Who has said Trump is going to visit North Korea? The venue he mentioned where the North and South Korean leaders met isn't North Korea.

Good point, and good counter Hypoxia.

The state visits to Pyongyang and Un in Washington, maybe with the SK president, might come later.

 

[Hypoxia]

I recall reading that the language in the ground-breaking South-North agreement is exactly the same as in four previous ground-breaking South-North agreements that accomplished zipola. I recall a truism: only idiots repeat the same shit over and over and expect a different result. Hey, let's sign that agreement again! It's re-usable.

Yesterday Bolton said the "Libya model" would be applied to Korea. Who here thinks Kim wants to end up like Gadaffi? A show of hands, please. Excellent! You have just volunteered for latrine duty.

 

[KeithD]

Who is "Un"? A purposeful misunderstanding of how Korean names work?

 

[KeithD]

I recall reading that the language in the ground-breaking South-North agreement is exactly the same as in four previous ground-breaking South-North agreements that accomplished zipola. I recall a truism: only idiots repeat the same shit over and over and expect a different result. Hey, let's sign that agreement again! It's re-usable.

That they expect a different result is a leap in presumption. They very well might not expect a different result. The result sought might be a return to some sort of lowered rocket-rattling status quo. South Korea has no reason to want to unify or even to get all that cozy. Why would they want the North Korean economy pulling them down? Return to somewhat benign neglect may be the goal, as was the result in earlier North-South agreements.

I think the major point here is that Trump people have no fuckin' idea what's happened on Korea before and haven't retained anyone who could tell them, even if they were listening.

 

[phrodeau]

As things currently stand, the only way Iran will get a nuclear bomb is if the US pulls out of the JCPOA.