Things that get under your skin.

[Sammael Bard]

'Boring' gets under my skin. I guess I can get into anything as long as it's interesting and doesn't fall out of my list of comfortable kinks. Hell, an author made me read a GM story and I loved it. It wasn't as if the raunchy sex suddenly turned on a straight guy. It was just a great story written with great skill.

It's all in the style to me.

Pretentious people who bag others for trying to write a story.

If only we could all be perfect.

*Hides keyboard and looks the other way*

 

[Harryasaboy]

Sex scenes that are so long that I wind up skipping whole paragraphs. These scenes often repeat an action that was described a few paragraphs back. I like detailed sex scenes. But I don't want them to go on forever! Some of the best writers here tend to do that I'm sure there have been threads about "how long should a sex scene be". I'll look them up...

Yup. I agree and I think porn has the same problem. Scenes that go on way to long I pity the actors.

When a woman claims to love being someone's slut. What f***ing BS. In my experience It's a rare woman who aspires to being anyone's slut or would ever call herself that. And if a guy likes her calling herself a slut, or if he likes calling her a slut, then he's a f***ing half-wit. It's just stupid and unrealistic.

The main character in my multi part story calls herself a slut not because she enjoys it, but because she got tired of fighting and decided she longer cares what others think.



^^This.

I'll drop a story if the dialog isn't realistic.

No one says "I am coming" ... they say "I'm coming". Stilted, ridiculously formal dialog that is unlike real life speech is my biggest turnoff with so many stories on this board.

Microsoft keeps giving me the red/blue line of doom whenever I try using slang or unorthodox sentence structures. I just "Ignore all."

 

[NOIRTRASH]

As a rule I don't read LIT stories. LIT stories remind me too much of Hillary speeches. LIT stories are simply bad, uninspired writing.

I have 300 books on my Kindle, prolly 5% of them are porn, and most are by Lawrence Block.

 

[OmnislashXX]

I don't like the demeaning of women. Like, when they are totally against having sex but are somehow coerced into it. Then they are suddenly just mindlessly addicted to the sex, with no thoughts except being just used as a cum dumpster. That kind of crap just irritates me.

Sometimes the tools used to convince the girl to have sex are really paper thin too. Things like blackmailing them with photos or saying they're going to report some embarrassing moment to someone else. Like who cares what the blackmailer does, at least if the girl is strong enough, she won't lower herself to have sex with the person.

I also don't like cheating too. I guess some people are turned on by it, but that kind of sex isn't really cheerful, but more along the lines of depressing.

 

[Hypoxia]

I also don't like cheating too. I guess some people are turned on by it, but that kind of sex isn't really cheerful, but more along the lines of depressing.

I don't care for murder, but without it, we wouldn't have much literature or drama. Like such bloodlust, infidelity is inextricable from human life. People fuck around. In some times and places, it's the national sport. Socially-forced marriages of incompatibles means they MUST cheat to have any sexual satisfaction. More commonly, wedding too young ensures they'll grow apart and tend to wander. That's just fucking reality -- half of USA marriages fail and infidelity is a main cause. We can't write erotica by ignoring the reality.

Many of my characters move into Happy-Ever-After relationships. But most are damaged people who slip their vows at some point. Or they may find complexity. I'm re-reading my Left Behind series where a married woman, abandoned by family (including her cheating husband), does oral sex but won't allow penetration till her divorce is final. Her vows keep her there. Is she unfaithful?

I'll admit -- some cheating scenarios in LIT stories leave me uneasy, queasy, right at the edge of my comfort level. Maybe that means the author is succeeding in affecting me. Do I have the strength to go on with the story?

 

[OmnislashXX]

I refrain. Cheating is ok if the person is unhappy, or if I feel like somehow the person getting cheated on deserves it in some way.

I'm not really looking at realism, just more along the lines of people getting hurt by it what's occurring. Depressing sex isn't really fun or erotic for me.

 

[RetroFan]

I also don't like cheating too. I guess some people are turned on by it, but that kind of sex isn't really cheerful, but more along the lines of depressing.

I'll only write cheating stories where both parties cheat and the relationship is an unhappy one.

For example, I wrote one set at a country club where a senator cheats with his bitchy assistant; his fed-up wife, knowing of his infidelity, cheats with a young college student who works at the country club. I would never consider writing a story where an innocent party gets hurt. For example, if there was a couple in their mid 30s where the wife had cancer and during treatment was too ill to engage in sex, and the husband responded by cheating with women all over town, this is just downright cruel and awful.

The thing that gets under my skin is incest, or to be more precise the popularity of the category. Now, if you read some of my stories (Spoiled Princess Hates Camping and Bridget the Bossy Bridezilla) you would see that these contain incestuous themes and call me a hypocrite. However, in the Spoiled Princess Hates Camping story this is played more for laughs, with a bumbling voyeur perving on his cousin. No sexual relations between them take place. In the Bridezilla story the titular character and her father have an odd sort of dynamic that only her fiancé seems to notice, but this is subtext only and again played for comedy not erotica.

I just do not see how people engaging in sexual activity with close family members can ever be considered erotic. There are a lot of things that I don't find erotic but others do, for example vomiting. If somebody wrote a story on the Fetish section about an outbreak of food poisoning in a girls' dormitory in a college causing all to vomit profusely and repeatedly this might be the greatest work of literature ever written to those with such a fetish, however it is uncommon and few stories like this would be on the site. There would not be so many vomiting stories that it would have its own category containing thousands of stories with this theme, and many new ones posted daily attracting thousands of views and votes.

That so many people like incest stories greatly disturbs me.

 

[CyranoJ]

I don't have a problem with dark kinks, but most of the incest stories it seems to me are basically just vanilla porn or romance stories with an [insert relative here*] twist, much like a lot of "incest" video clips online are just standard porn with thirty seconds of "but you're my brother!" at either end. I doubt stories depicting anything like realistic incest would be anywhere close to as popular (not to mention the bulk of them would be illegal). I'll admit the number of incest fans who seem to believe "consensual incest" is an IRL thing is disquieting, but there's always people who can't tell fantasy from reality.

* I don't suppose anyone will believe me if I say "pun not intended," will they.

 

[Anomic]

I find myself annoyed with incest stories where the authors seem to think that familial love and romantic love are the same thing. This extends to stories where two related people fall in love and start having sex, then suddenly start bringing other family members into it and saying it's just an extension of the love that they feel for one another. But to each their own, I guess...

 

[CyranoJ]

I find myself annoyed with incest stories where the authors seem to think that familial love and romantic love are the same thing. This extends to stories where two related people fall in love and start having sex, then suddenly start bringing other family members into it and saying it's just an extension of the love that they feel for one another. But to each their own, I guess...

I'm guessing that's right up there in genre cliches with family members walking in on other family members having sex and just spontaneously joining right on in.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Long ago I was involved with a prostitute. She was a prostitute when I met her, so I didn't try and 'redeem' her. As he explained it to me, fucking men made her lotsa money compared to minimum wage and fucking the boss for free. She also said 15 minute quickies don't do the trick when a girl needs lots more.

Wiorking for decades with women, most fuck around outside of marriage. You simply haven't caught her doing it.

 

[Kantarii]

Yup. I write stories with transvestites and cross dressers as the main character. But I'm not foolish enough to believe it's all that popular as far as a story goes. Probably more popular on this site than out in the mainstream, that's for sureKant

 

[Hypoxia]

Re: Incest -- I write lots of incest but don't read it 'cause it ain't my thang. I've said in other threads that writing such is a puzzle-piece for me, fitting together improbabilities to make a coherent story.

Is IRL incest any more palatable than IRL murder? No. But zillions of folks with no intent to commit murder will happily read murder stories. Now replace 'murder' with 'incest' in that last sentence. I will and do write of murder, incest, nasty domination and humiliation, self-mutilation, destructive infidelity, crime, all sorts of id-spew that I would never practice. Why? Because people like the stuff, and have for many centuries. It's the stuff of drama, of transgressions and consequences, of the low raised high (comedy) and the high brought low (tragedy). Just ask Oedipus.

Those reading my A TASTE OF INCEST cycle and similar tales know I don't write saw-mom-naked-now-I-gotta-fuck-her pieces. Something else happens. Yes, such formulaic incest is tiring. Yes, there's a lot of it, which is why I don't read Incest. Oh, it's a toxic field in which I toil...

 

[OmnislashXX]

yeah, Incest is another thing. Especially if it's immediate family. The idea of having sex with your sister or mother, or daughter... eeeeeuuu.

 

[Areala-chan]

The thing that gets under my skin is incest, or to be more precise the popularity of the category. [...] I just do not see how people engaging in sexual activity with close family members can ever be considered erotic. There are a lot of things that I don't find erotic but others do, for example vomiting. If somebody wrote a story on the Fetish section about an outbreak of food poisoning in a girls' dormitory in a college causing all to vomit profusely and repeatedly this might be the greatest work of literature ever written to those with such a fetish, however it is uncommon and few stories like this would be on the site. There would not be so many vomiting stories that it would have its own category containing thousands of stories with this theme, and many new ones posted daily attracting thousands of views and votes.

That so many people like incest stories greatly disturbs me.

It's popular for reasons the other part of the category points towards: 'Taboo'. Deeply ingrained in all of us down at the basest level, programmed by our own biology, is a little voice that says, "It doesn't matter how pretty you think your mom is, you're her kid. Laying pipe with her ain't cool and to make sure you don't, I'm going to make the idea absolutely unappealing to the both of you." Going against that grain is like breaking into a bank vault by dick-slapping the door into submission.

For virtually the entire population of the world, the idea of boinking one of their own family members is about as appealing as enduring an ass-to-mouth endoscopy; it's so fundamentally wrong you don't need to be a genius to figure out why. I imagine most category readers do so for the same reason others of us watch fail video compilations. It's intriguing because it's happening, and because we aren't directly involved there's a feeling of no harm, no foul.

I've got two stories in the category, and I write there for the challenge factor. Crafting a believable scenario is basically impossible, but it's fiction, nobody's getting hurt, and feedback indicates people enjoy my attempts. The category might as well be merged with fantasy, because between the number of people reading it and the number of those who actually, no joke, want to bone relatives lies an incomprehensibly enormous gulf. Humans are weird though: we want to experience things, but do so safely. Why else do horror films and NASCAR exist? We're fascinated by things we can't have, things we can't do, and the people who let us watch from a safe distance.

That's just me though. I'm sure authors like Lovecraft and Hypoxia write their stories for a different reason.

 

[Hypoxia]

It's popular for reasons the other part of the category points towards: 'Taboo'. Deeply ingrained in all of us down at the basest level, programmed by our own biology, is a little voice that says, "It doesn't matter how pretty you think your mom is, you're her kid. Laying pipe with her ain't cool and to make sure you don't, I'm going to make the idea absolutely unappealing to the both of you." Going against that grain is like breaking into a bank vault by dick-slapping the door into submission.

For virtually the entire population of the world, the idea of boinking one of their own family members is about as appealing as enduring an ass-to-mouth endoscopy; it's so fundamentally wrong you don't need to be a genius to figure out why.

Taboos exist because subjects are too attractive. Murder taboo; incest taboo; theft taboo; if folks didn't wanna, those would be unnecessary. Family members are accessible. In some cultures, parentage is ambiguous; all aunties are Mama, all uncles are Papa, all their kids are Cousin, and who fucks whom is pretty fluid. In some cultures, a majority of marriages are first-cousins or uncle-niece. In some social strata, sibling marriage is required -- the incest taboo only applies to peasants. Et cetera.

Incest is a tricky subject. See my essay What Is Incest? for enlightenment. And some folks don't like reading about cheating (see above). That's almost as contentious as incest. See What Is Cheating? while you're at it.

That's just me though. I'm sure authors like Lovecraft and Hypoxia write their stories for a different reason.

I've mentioned my reasons. LC's reasons don't interest me. Again, most of the incest stories I've scanned here don't appeal to me at all. They're just not tricky enough.

 

[Areala-chan]

Incest is a tricky subject. See my essay What Is Incest? for enlightenment.

I read that a couple years ago before I did my first story in that category. It was very helpful, and I heartily recommend it for anyone else thinking of dipping a toe into the similarly-gened pool.

 

[lovecraft68]

Rape writers who have issues with 18+ consensual incest stories.

 

[Kantarii]

Rape writers who have issues with 18+ consensual incest stories.

I wouldn't consider myself a rape writer. I just didn't see any other way to move my story in the direction it needed to go without that one scene in "My Brother's Ghost". For the life of me, I can't understand why some readers thought the story was incest? Oh, well. It passed Laurel with no issues