They're Here

[MissTaken]

Anywhere that a group of people congregate on line, one should expect on line predators.

How do you profile an on line predator?

Have you found your defenses lowering as you become more comfie with lit as a community?

Are you still vigilant about whom you share identifying information with?

Let's talk lit's on line predators.

 

[seXieleXie]

i'm a preditor. be afraid, be VERY afraid!!!!

 

[Wiggles]

What sort of predators do we have on Lit right now? I'd really like to know.

Or is this a general question?

 

[MissTaken]

Well, Writer Dom has a great post which is a sticky at the top of the BDSM thread. I would refer anyone there.

But tonight, I began thinking how lazy I have been in keeping my confidentiality and privacy in tact.

Then, my wheels began turning and it seemed to me that it is entirely likely that there is a "predator" or two here at lit.

I don't mean to instill panic or paranoia. I was just thinking.

Oh dear! Hush...now don't you tell anyone that dear old Miss T was thinking!

 

[Wiggles]

It's good to remember. I'd like to think I'm very good about keeping my info. private. But I'm really not used to going around hiding things from people.

Thanks for the reminder.

And yes, I did just go double check the lock on my front door.

 

[Sillyman]

I tend to be liberal about sharing since I don't really have anything to offer any predators. I don't have anything to steal and I'm a man, so I'm not particularly worried.

Of course, maybe I'm an on-line predator....

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[MissTaken]

How would you know?

I have my own thoughts on the matter, but am more interested in other's thoughts.

How do you know I am not a predator?

Or the person who posts after me?

 

[Phoenyx]

Yea how do we know?

 

[Ishmael]

You have an interesting thread here miss T.

I wonder if there is difference in the profile of a female predator for instance. Difference's between a female preying on a female vs. preying on a male? Or a male preying on males?

I really haven't paid all that much attention to it, but I know that they're out there too.

Most that I have seen are obvious and have been laughed or ridiculed off the boards. But what of the more subtle predator?

Ishmael

 

[MissTaken]

*hugs* to Pheonyx.

I haven't seen you in a while.

Then, here is the link to Writer Dom's post. The post was intended for submissive women to refer to,but is good information for everyone.


http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81203

 

[MissTaken]

You have an interesting thread here miss T.

I wonder if there is difference in the profile of a female predator for instance. Difference's between a female preying on a female vs. preying on a male? Or a male preying on males?

I really haven't paid all that much attention to it, but I know that they're out there too.

Most that I have seen are obvious and have been laughed or ridiculed off the boards. But what of the more subtle predator?

Ishmael

Be wery wery quiet, I am hunting Ishmaels!

(in my best Elmer Fudd voice)

Otherwise, I would be interested in hearing about the gender differences or perspectives in gender differences.

Fatal Attraction was a very cool movie, when it first came out!

 

[Ishmael]

Be wery wery quiet, I am hunting Ishmaels!

(in my best Elmer Fudd voice)

Otherwise, I would be interested in hearing about the gender differences or perspectives in gender differences.

Fatal Attraction was a very cool movie, when it first came out!

OMG, I knew it, I just knew it!!!!!!!!!

Ishmael

 

[cybergirly]

Well you've got me thinking. I was wondering if a true predator would have the patience to get someone to trust them online. Would a female predator have more patience? Then I started thinking about how easy it would be to spot the people that are either very naive, or have very low self esteem with just a few flattering comments. Then I realized, hey, I could be a predator! I thought the whole thing through wow...

Really though, everyone just needs to remember to be careful

girly

 

[Marxist]

Hi kids, just thought I'd let you know that of the more than half a million hits Lit receives in a quarter, some are bound to be ex-convicts and maybe a few that just haven't been caught. Word on the Lit. street is that more crazies and potential crazies live amongst us than we'd be comfie with. Or so I've heard.

What are the signs? A lack of impulse control is tops and boy have I got some great suspects.

 

[Sillyman]

I have perfect impulse control. Actually yes there are crazy people on the board. Take me for example. Really. I'm pretty much nuts. I wouldn't trust me with young children or sharp objects. Or sharp children and young objects for that matter.

 

[MissTaken]

Hi kids, just thought I'd let you know that of the more than half a million hits Lit receives in a quarter, some are bound to be ex-convicts and maybe a few that just haven't been caught. Word on the Lit. street is that more crazies and potential crazies live amongst us than we'd be comfie with. Or so I've heard.

What are the signs? A lack of impulse control is tops and boy have I got some great suspects.

Something I watch out for is contradictory statements.

Posting one thing, then saying something else . While we all do that to some degree, the difference between manipulation and fun can be dangerous.

I agree....lit is almost like a perv magnet! Errrr I am a perv! I mean magnet for the less than healthy at heart. Predators included.

 

[Calamity Jane]

Actually, I have become more lax as I've become comfortable at Lit. Something to think about. Most of y'all that pay attention, know my real first name, and where I'm from. Quite a few people have my phone number... probably wouldn't be all that hard to find me.

Is this a good time to mention that I'm a black belt, I carry a shotgun everytime i go outside, and I have a police trained German Shepard? (Ok, so only one of those is true, you decide which one.)

 

[OpposingBalance]

Great, now I'm kinda freaked out.
Thinking of trying to go over all my past posts to make sure I didn't say something I shouldn't...
Guess now I won't be posting after I've had a few glasses of wine anymore!

 

[Ishmael]

I started doing some thinking about this last night.

Marxist has a point on the impulse control. But I know some people with poor impulse control and they're a hoot to be around. So I think that there's more to it than that.

Contradictory statements are a BIG tip off, but not necessarily an indication of predatory behavior in their own right either.

By all accounts, Ted Bundy was a very deliberate man. Yes, he did take advantage of situations, but he was very deliberate in those that he took advantage off.

I guess the first thing that I'd ask is what constitutes predatory behavior? Seeking to do physical harm, financial gain, sexual liason's? All can be predatory. What about the person that is just lonely and seeks attention, possibly over-seeking attention? There are people in Lit. that irritate the shit out of me, but I wouldn't call them predators. And probably none to few that I irritate. You get a group this large together and that is bound to happen.

I don't think there is a simple answer.

Ishmael

 

[lovetoread]

I dont think about it really.

I mean there isnt anyone on here that actually wants me enough to come after me,ya dig?

 

[OpposingBalance]

What exactly are these people after?
I mean, what do they do to people?
Are you talking about someone finding out where you live and coming after you? Or someone that just messes with you online?

 

[His_kitty]

I am too open about myself and my information. But I'm learning (the hard way) to be more careful.

I have been 'cyber stalked' before, and I'm sure its still an ongoing thing. It got to the point where I had to uninstall my msn, and reinstall with a new addy that I can only give out to very few of my online friends. I went from an msn list consisting in excess of 70+ people, to a sum of 10.

Because this 'cyber-stalker' is also a hacker. I know that he's hacked into one others computer to find out real info about them, and I suspect he did the same to my own. All in the name of loving me? I think not .... it's called obsession.

When I met this person did I have any idea he was this way? No
Did I have any clue to his abilities? No
Did I ever feel as though he had the potential to become obsessive, vindictive or just plain nuts? Nope

This person has also 'threatened' the only online friends of mine that were brave enough to tell him what a megalomaniac he is.
So in order to protect myself, and others, I've essentially had to take a 'break' from some of my online activities, and friendships.

But this isn't all to say that I haven't met loads of great people, those that I do trust and care for, because I have. But only 3 people have my real home address, the rest only have a post office box number, in another state. Very few have my home number, as well as a few only having a last name.

I worry daily that this 'man' will try and harm my real life, because as he's shown, it's so very easy for him to gather that info. Hopefully sometime in the very near future I can resume some of those friendships and activities ..... and when I do, I will be more careful about who I get close to, who I share personal info with, and maybe not be so naive.



kitty

 

[Ishmael]

I am too open about myself and my information. But I'm learning (the hard way) to be more careful.

I have been 'cyber stalked' before, and I'm sure its still an ongoing thing. It got to the point where I had to uninstall my msn, and reinstall with a new addy that I can only give out to very few of my online friends. I went from an msn list consisting in excess of 70+ people, to a sum of 10.

Because this 'cyber-stalker' is also a hacker. I know that he's hacked into one others computer to find out real info about them, and I suspect he did the same to my own. All in the name of loving me? I think not .... it's called obsession.

When I met this person did I have any idea he was this way? No
Did I have any clue to his abilities? No
Did I ever feel as though he had the potential to become obsessive, vindictive or just plain nuts? Nope

This person has also 'threatened' the only online friends of mine that were brave enough to tell him what a megalomaniac he is.
So in order to protect myself, and others, I've essentially had to take a 'break' from some of my online activities, and friendships.

But this isn't all to say that I haven't met loads of great people, those that I do trust and care for, because I have. But only 3 people have my real home address, the rest only have a post office box number, in another state. Very few have my home number, as well as a few only having a last name.

I worry daily that this 'man' will try and harm my real life, because as he's shown, it's so very easy for him to gather that info. Hopefully sometime in the very near future I can resume some of those friendships and activities ..... and when I do, I will be more careful about who I get close to, who I share personal info with, and maybe not be so naive.



kitty

Cyber stalkers are a pain in the ass. Their empowerment comes from your fear. And they know it. Yes, a good hacker can create problems for you, but by the very fact that you have had contact with them, they've left a trail. The best way to deal with it is to fight back. There are organizations out there that will help.

http://www.wiredpatrol.org/

Is but one of many. By using the internet, they open themselves to Federal prosecution if they reside in another state, or the messages were routed through another state. The laws concerning this are becoming Internationalized also. So depending on the country, living outside the US may not save them from legal scrutiny.

Hope this helps a little.

Ishmael

 

[His_kitty]

Cyber stalkers are a pain in the ass. Their empowerment comes from your fear. And they know it. Yes, a good hacker can create problems for you, but by the very fact that you have had contact with them, they've left a trail. The best way to deal with it is to fight back. There are organizations out there that will help.

http://www.wiredpatrol.org/

Is but one of many. By using the internet, they open themselves to Federal prosecution if they reside in another state, or the messages were routed through another state. The laws concerning this are becoming Internationalized also. So depending on the country, living outside the US may not save them from legal scrutiny.

Hope this helps a little.

Ishmael

I appreciate the information, and I will look into it. I met him at my old chat site, which he and his 'friends' have now taken over. Flooding people from the site, disconnecting them, etc etc.

It really is a long story, that no one I'm sure would be interested in hearing.

Yes I do realize that by leaving, and cutting myself off, I am giving him power over me. But I have a good bit to lose ...... and mostly I hate the thoughts of anyone getting hurt all because of a twisted twirp who became obsessed with me.

And btw, he is from Ireland, not the states. My hope is that he'll soon tire, and leave myself and others involved alone. My fear in trying to get him in trouble for what he's done/doing is that he'll at most get a few months in prison meanwhile, planning revenge.

So I'm going to continue making the best of a bad situation, and learn from my mistakes.


ty Ishmael




kitty