They Rolled The Dice And Lost

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/thomasson12-colorado/thomasson12-colorado

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CANTVOTE AGAINST YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND EXPECT THEM TO GIVE YOU A GROUP HUG.

 

[RobDownSouth]

They voted for more buyers to be subjected for background checks, which the Supreme Court has previously found to be Constitutional.

For some reason, however, background checks for gun buyers are like garlic to a vampire.

Don't believe me? Ask Vetteman. Very few topics can cause him to have a complete and utter meltdown as gun background checks.

Makes you wonder what these gun nuts are afraid of, doesn't it?

 

[unregistered]

 

[koalabear]

Dan K. Thomasson

The author seems a little pissed.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The author seems a little pissed.

Voters are stupid. Newspaper editors oughta decide things.

Robert E. Lee usta say that the Souths ablest generals were newspaper editors, and he couldn't find one way to persuade them to join the army and win the war.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Does Vette have a drinking problem?

More of a gender identity problem, methinks. Common in aging Marines.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

More of a gender identity problem, methinks. Common in aging Marines.

He's still one up on you, cuz he has a gender/sex.

You know why we switched calling , gender, sex, doncha?

Cuz guys like you were weary of the teasing you got for being sexless.

 

[RobDownSouth]

He's still one up on you, cuz he has a gender/sex.

You know why we switched calling , gender, sex, doncha?

Cuz guys like you were weary of the teasing you got for being sexless.

You so funny, Wilford.

Maybe you can explain exactly WHY this "recall" was needed in the first place?

Were there corrupt officials? Criminal activity? Those are the usual reasons for recalls.

Seems to me that five officials supported a particular policy regarding gun control, which offended those who believe guns are sacred and that any effort to control them is blasphemy.

Isn't this sort of recall actually a perversion of democracy?

I don't expect you to respond with anything resembling original thought, given your posting history. Just wanted to give you something to think about.

 

[koalabear]

You so funny, Wilford.

Maybe you can explain exactly WHY this "recall" was needed in the first place?

Were there corrupt officials? Criminal activity? Those are the usual reasons for recalls.

Seems to me that five officials supported a particular policy regarding gun control, which offended those who believe guns are sacred and that any effort to control them is blasphemy.

Isn't this sort of recall actually a perversion of democracy?

I don't expect you to respond with anything resembling original thought, given your posting history. Just wanted to give you something to think about.

It's simple Fatty, they listened to Bloomberg instead of the people.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You so funny, Wilford.

Maybe you can explain exactly WHY this "recall" was needed in the first place?

Were there corrupt officials? Criminal activity? Those are the usual reasons for recalls.

Seems to me that five officials supported a particular policy regarding gun control, which offended those who believe guns are sacred and that any effort to control them is blasphemy.

Isn't this sort of recall actually a perversion of democracy?

I don't expect you to respond with anything resembling original thought, given your posting history. Just wanted to give you something to think about.

Life's not fair, BORIS. Gotta keep the customers satisfied.

 

[Busybody]

voter suppression

 

[Busybody]

Isn't this sort of recall actually a perversion of democracy?

I don't expect you to respond with anything resembling original thought, given your posting history. Just wanted to give you something to think about.

Wisconsin

now STFU and BEHEAD yourself

 

[koalabear]

voter suppression

I have a suppressor on my 1911.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Thomasson: Colorado's recall vote violates orderly democracy

The precedent set here strains the electoral process based on the premise that a duly elected official is safe until the next election — unless he or she demonstrates dishonesty or is tarnished by some incident — and not subject to the whims of those who disagree. But Colorado is one of 19 states that permit voters to remove an official before term's end simply because they don't like the official's position or policy; there's no need for evidence of malfeasance. These states make recall far too easy.

This case sends a simple message to state legislators across the land: Keep your hands off our firearms or face the consequences of potential political annihilation.

Hey, Dan! How stupid are you? The Colorado recall in no way sends a message threatening "political annihilation" across the land. At best it only sends a message to the other 19 states like Colorado who have a "no fault" recall statute.

Furthermore, it is highly presumptuous of you to assume that the legislators in those 19 states did not understand the political dynamics and potential consequences of the recall legislation they were passing.

IMHO, there is no better expression of "orderly democracy" than for states to exercise what little sovereignty they have left by producing bodies of statutory law that are significantly different from each other.

You actually got a problem with that?

 

[Ishmael]

Hey, Dan! How stupid are you? The Colorado recall in no way sends a message threatening "political annihilation" across the land. At best it only sends a message to the other 19 states like Colorado who have a "no fault" recall statute.

Furthermore, it is highly presumptuous of you to assume that the legislators in those 19 states did not understand the political dynamics and potential consequences of the recall legislation they were passing.

IMHO, there is no better expression of "orderly democracy" than for states to exercise what little sovereignty they have left by producing bodies of statutory law that are significantly different from each other.

You actually got a problem with that?

I bet he was all for Democracy until he saw how it actually works.

This is the same crew that has spent the past 60 years trying to convince everyone that the US is a Democracy and that we ought to shit can those undemocratic institutions like the electoral college.

All one can do is laugh.

Ishmael

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I bet he was all for Democracy until he saw how it actually works.

This is the same crew that has spent the past 60 years trying to convince everyone that the US is a Democracy and that we ought to shit can those undemocratic institutions like the electoral college.

All one can do is laugh.

Ishmael

Like Madison said, the time to raise hell is before the vote is taken.

 

[Boxlicker101]

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/thomasson12-colorado/thomasson12-colorado

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CANTVOTE AGAINST YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND EXPECT THEM TO GIVE YOU A GROUP HUG.

This editorial comment is pretty ridiculous. An even greater tenet of democracy is that representatives are sent to legislatures in order to represent their constituents. That is so well established a fact that it needs no proof. Therefore, when said representatives vote contrary to the wishes of the people who sent them there them, the voters are well within their rights to give them the boot, either in the next election or via recall.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You so funny, Wilford.

Maybe you can explain exactly WHY this "recall" was needed in the first place?

Were there corrupt officials? Criminal activity? Those are the usual reasons for recalls.

Seems to me that five officials supported a particular policy regarding gun control, which offended those who believe guns are sacred and that any effort to control them is blasphemy.

Isn't this sort of recall actually a perversion of democracy?

I don't expect you to respond with anything resembling original thought, given your posting history. Just wanted to give you something to think about.

It is not a perversion of democracy. It is the very essence of democracy that voters can boot out the elected representatives who vote in ways contrary to the wishes of their constituents. The offended voters could have waited until the next general election but, apparently, they were so pissed off they felt it was worth the hassle and expense of a recall election.

This was something like what your ilk tried to do in WI but, in that case, it was the duly elected governor they went after and they failed in their attempt.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It is not a perversion of democracy. It is the very essence of democracy that voters can boot out the elected representatives who vote in ways contrary to the wishes of their constituents. The offended voters could have waited until the next general election but, apparently, they were so pissed off they felt it was worth the hassle and expense of a recall election.

This was something like what your ilk tried to do in WI but, in that case, it was the duly elected governor they went after and they failed in their attempt.

Again, you've failed to identify the grounds for the recall. "We don't agree with him" is awfully weak.

We don't have "snap elections" here in America just because we disagree with something. That's what they do in banana republics.

 

[Busybody]

Again, you've failed to identify the grounds for the recall. "We don't agree with him" is awfully weak.

We don't have "snap elections" here in America just because we disagree with something. That's what they do in banana republics.

WISCONSON


Now STFU

 

[DooleyDarter]

Again, you've failed to identify the grounds for the recall. "We don't agree with him" is awfully weak.

We don't have "snap elections" here in America just because we disagree with something. That's what they do in banana republics.

Then why is there such a thing on the books as a recall ?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Then why is there such a thing on the books as a recall ?

For crimes, corruption neglect and malfeasance in office.

Voter hissy fits ought not to be a valid reason....that's a corruption of the Democratic process.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Again, you've failed to identify the grounds for the recall. "We don't agree with him" is awfully weak.

We don't have "snap elections" here in America just because we disagree with something. That's what they do in banana republics.

I am just taking issue with the comment of Dan Thomasson RE: recall elections for elected officials. The grounds for the recall are immaterial.

We obviously do have "snap elections" in America, because some legislative districts in CO just had one. Before that, there was the one in WI and before that their was the recall of Gray Davis as governor of CA and the attempted recall of Diane Feinstein as mayor of SF. Feinstein hadn't actually been elected mayor, but her incumbency was legal in keeping with local law.

 

[Busybody]

For crimes, corruption neglect and malfeasance in office.

Voter hissy fits ought not to be a valid reason....that's a corruption of the Democratic process.

WISCONSON


Now STFU

 

[Boxlicker101]

For crimes, corruption neglect and malfeasance in office.

Voter hissy fits ought not to be a valid reason....that's a corruption of the Democratic process.

Malfeasance is as malfeasance does. There are those who believe voting contrary to the wishes of one's constituents is malfeasance.

BTW, what were the grounds for the attempted recall of Scott Walker. As I recall, he had decertified the state employees' union, or something like that. Would you have called that "For crimes, corruption neglect and malfeasance in office"?