There's still a chance that Blair will recall our troops and...

[p_p_man]

leave the war to the US. The chance is slim but it's there. A lot hinges on the protest marches taking place in the UK today. If they're large enough Blair will certainly re-consider his position. He's good at doing U-turns and making them sound like normal policy. With a growing number of his own cabinet and backbenchers protesting about the lack of evidence found in Iraq his position is becoming weaker.

He's beginning to look as though he's floundering already to find justification for invading Iraq and earlier this week he was made to look like an incompetent fool when questioned by one of our heavyweight interviewers - Jeremy Paxman.

If the Conservative opposition party was stronger I doubt if he would have gone as far as he has, but at the moment he's the only man remotely capable of governing the UK...

ppman

 

[Gil_Favor]

Hey p_p hows the RDF coming?

 

[Ham Murabi]

There's still a chance that Blair will recall our troops and …

Be regarded by future generations as just another Neville Chamberlain.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: There's still a chance that Blair will recall our troops and …

Be regarded by future generations as just another Neville Chamberlain.

Neville Chamberlain was only following the will of a people who were sick of tired of war...

Blame the Brits not their spokesman...

The opposite is true of Bush, he follows his own will and to hell with the people...

Who's right?

ppman

 

[killstorm2002]

Do you not care about the Iraqi people? Usually it's the left always talking about human rights. Did you support the war in Kosovo?

 

[killstorm2002]

Also, notice that there won't be even 1,000 Iraqis out of hundreds of thousands in Britain at the peace march.

 

[p_p_man]

Do you not care about the Iraqi people? Usually it's the left always talking about human rights. Did you support the war in Kosovo?

Yeah sure...you're going in to save them from a vicious dictator, no matter that you'll slaughter thousands of them in the process...

Kosova was justified, Iraq is not...

ppman

 

[killstorm2002]

Would you rather let Saddam be, thereby in the long run kill more Iraqis both through sanctions and Saddam's dictatorship?

 

[p_p_man]

Also, notice that there won't be even 1,000 Iraqis out of hundreds of thousands in Britain at the peace march.

And that's meant to be significant? If I had family still back in the 'home country' I doubt if I would march either...

ppman

 

[p_p_man]

Would you rather let Saddam be, thereby in the long run kill more Iraqis both through sanctions and Saddam's dictatorship?

Just make Iraq a UN protectorate and be done with it, that'll solve the whole problem.

Wouldn't please Bush though...

ppman

 

[Ham Murabi]

Re: Re: There's still a chance that Blair will recall our troops and …

Neville Chamberlain was only following the will of a people who were sick of tired of war...

Blame the Brits not their spokesman...

The opposite is true of Bush, he follows his own will and to hell with the people...

Who's right?

ppman

You don't blame a spokesman, but you do blame a leader. As a leader, ppman, would you rank Neville Chamberlain above or below Churchill? If most Brits were ready to give up after Churchill was elected, should he have negotiated for peace, or would he be doing his job by showing some leadership?

Bush is not the spokesman for the U.S., he's our elected leader. Right now a majority of Americans favor his approach, but even if they didn't I think he would be heading in the same direction because he believes it is the right thing to do.
Chamberlain turned a blind eye to what Hitler was doing. Clinton essentially did the same thing with Saddam.

 

[killstorm2002]

Why wouldn't you march? Hardly any Iraqis will be marching because they support the removal of the tyrant Saddam Hussein. If this war results in a Iraq with democracy, human rights, and cheering Iraqis would you admit you were wrong?

 

[killstorm2002]

Make Iraq a UN protectorate? How does that work? Would Saddam stay in power?

 

[Ham Murabi]

And that's meant to be significant? If I had family still back in the 'home country' I doubt if I would march either...

ppman

Why not, pp? Do you think the general Iraqi population is doing just fine with Saddam at the helm?

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Re: There's still a chance that Blair will recall our troops and …

You don't blame a spokesman, but you do blame a leader. As a leader, ppman, would you rank Neville Chamberlain above or below Churchill?

As Churchill was a supporter of "jaw-jaw not war-war" did that make him an appeaser?

Chamberlain was an appeaser but it was he who declared war on Germany, did that make him a war-mongerer?

ppman

 

[p_p_man]

Why not, pp? Do you think the general Iraqi population is doing just fine with Saddam at the helm?

No, but where there's life there's hope and if my family in Iraq were picked up and murdered by Saddam's thugs because I hadn't gone on an anti-war march, I have a feeling they'd curse me from beyond the grave...

ppman