There's a story there...

[djrip]

An interesting article today... It's basically a lit story already!

https://slate.com/life/2024/06/bi-g...ntation-gender-surrogate-partner-therapy.html

 

[Rob_Royale]

Agreed. I think it's a common thought that there is gay, straight or bi. But I've known enough people in my life to know that's not true. And even bisexual feels too specific because there's varying degrees of it, and we see it here on the forums every day. We see threads in the LBGTQ section that talk about being straight but wanting to suck a cock.

The Kinsey scale goes into this extensively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale#:~:text=The Kinsey scale ranges from,"incidental" or "occasional"

In a lot of ways I feel grateful to be completely straight because people I have known between gay and straight go through a lot of anguish trying to figure out their own self. What am I, where do I fit, who will I love? Adolescence is already enough of a nightmare. Imagine adding those sorts of unknowns to it? One of my good friends in high school was nearly driven suicidal by it.

Anyone who has made it through to knowing themselves and accepting themselves has my most profound admiration.

 

[djrip]

The orientation spectrum issues were interesting to think about. And the interactions with the surrogate partner were particularly Lit worthy, I thought.

Over two weeks, my sessions with Ana transitioned from nurturing, nonsexual touch exercises (hand-holding, observing, stroking of nonerogenous zones) to more intimate activities, including mutual genital exploration. Occasionally, my curiosity swerved us into an almost clinical, impromptu female anatomy lesson, as when I found myself captivated by the intricate details of the labia.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

I loved the line, 'Warm orifices being what they are, gender ended up not mattering much at all.'

If Gen Alpha and beyond end up not caring which sex they or others go for, that may make many lives way easier, but I suspect it'll take a few more generations before queers can totally relax even in 'first world' cities.

Trying to explain sexuality can get horribly complicated and need something like the Klein Grid - Fritz Klein fondly believed people would put a string of 6 digits on their business card and such, explaining the different types of sexuality on a 1-7 scale at that time (and two more lines to represent past and desired future...)

 

[KeithD]

I lost interest by the time Masters and Johnsons popped up. I didn't really need the analysis to go with the flow.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Trying to explain sexuality can get horribly complicated and need something like the Klein Grid - Fritz Klein fondly believed people would put a string of 6 digits on their business card and such, explaining the different types of sexuality on a 1-7 scale at that time (and two more lines to represent past and desired future...)

Nowadays it'd be QR codes, of course!

 

[NoTalentHack]

Agreed. I think it's a common thought that there is gay, straight or bi. But I've known enough people in my life to know that's not true. And even bisexual feels too specific because there's varying degrees of it, and we see it here on the forums every day. We see threads in the LBGTQ section that talk about being straight but wanting to suck a cock.

The Kinsey scale goes into this extensively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale#:~:text=The Kinsey scale ranges from,"incidental" or "occasional"

In a lot of ways I feel grateful to be completely straight because people I have known between gay and straight go through a lot of anguish trying to figure out their own self. What am I, where do I fit, who will I love? Adolescence is already enough of a nightmare. Imagine adding those sorts of unknowns to it? One of my good friends in high school was nearly driven suicidal by it.

Anyone who has made it through to knowing themselves and accepting themselves has my most profound admiration.

I really enjoy the terms "heteroflexible" and "homoflexible." They encapsulate a specific pair of niches that I think are much more common than people want to talk about. I'd classify myself as the former if pressed, and I knew a woman in college who put it this way: "I've fooled around with girls and really enjoyed it. Even tried relationships, although they didn't work out for me, because when it comes down to it, I like being with guys too much." She mimicked some motions with her hands and a frustrated expression, saying, "Yes, yes, that's nice, it feels great, you got me off and I loved it, NOW WHERE'S THE DICK?" Still cracks me up when I think about it.

 

[Cagivagurl]

I read something somewhere a long time ago... Like more than yesterday.
It said (Quote) "Nobody is totally straight. Everything you thought you know about yourself could change when you meet the right person."
I've thought about that statement a lot... Why? Because it intrigued me.
I've met a few people... Like more than ten. Who found out later in life they were gay or perhaps Bi or pan...
Which brought that quote back into my mind.
Perhaps it's that simple. We meet a particular person, and everything changes...
We are too quick to put people into boxes with labels on.
There is a joke within certain groups. Goes something like this.
Straight girl being hit on by a lesbian. "No... I'm straight."
Reply. "So is spaghetti until it's wet."
Personally, I think it is society that makes people less likely to open themselves to questions of sexuality.
Again, as always. I speak only for myself...

Cagivagurl

 

[lc69hunter]

I am not a fan of labels as it applies to sexual activity, believing them to apply to relationship preferences. There is a correlation, but nowhere near 100%.

My second wife loved sex with women. However, she was very blunt about the fact that if she ever tried to set up house with one, she would be in jail for murder or domestic violence within six months.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Agreed. I think it's a common thought that there is gay, straight or bi. But I've known enough people in my life to know that's not true. And even bisexual feels too specific because there's varying degrees of it, and we see it here on the forums every day. We see threads in the LBGTQ section that talk about being straight but wanting to suck a cock.

I decided a while back that it made more sense just to define my orientation one person at a time. It saves a lot of angst,

 

[AG31]

Having experienced a startling 180 degree turn i one aspect of my sexuality, which I (based on opinions of others better informed than myself) attribute to a hormonal storm, probably associated with an age related breakdown in some endocrine system (deep breath), I'm completely open to the malleability of sexual desire.

 

[Smoothshavendad]

I would love to hear more…

 

[AG31]

I would love to hear more…

Search for me in the forums. Check out my bio. Read this post.

 

[Smoothshavendad]

My crush just got 10x stronger after reading.

 

[AG31]

My crush just got 10x stronger after reading.

Feel free to follow up with specific questions.

 

[Smoothshavendad]

Would it offend you to know that i ache to be inside you?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

One of my Lesbian college friend's favorite joke was, "what do sorority girls and spaghetti have in common?"

They're both straight until you get them hot and wet.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Agreed. I think it's a common thought that there is gay, straight or bi. But I've known enough people in my life to know that's not true. And even bisexual feels too specific because there's varying degrees of it, and we see it here on the forums every day. We see threads in the LBGTQ section that talk about being straight but wanting to suck a cock.

The Kinsey scale goes into this extensively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale#:~:text=The Kinsey scale ranges from,"incidental" or "occasional"

In a lot of ways I feel grateful to be completely straight because people I have known between gay and straight go through a lot of anguish trying to figure out their own self. What am I, where do I fit, who will I love? Adolescence is already enough of a nightmare. Imagine adding those sorts of unknowns to it? One of my good friends in high school was nearly driven suicidal by it.

Anyone who has made it through to knowing themselves and accepting themselves has my most profound admiration.

I've had characters mention the Kinsey scale as they become aware of how people really are. It's partially a cultural thing. If one lives in a time or society where certain behaviors are "in the closet," then people will deny their own thoughts, maybe even to themselves I'd guess. After their deaths, they usually left no record of their secret wishes and fantasies.