Then and now. (kinda political)

[Wildcard Ky]

I ran across this picture today. I guess these actions weren't headline making about 90 years ago. Can you imagine what would happen if tactics like this were attemted today?

I'm NOT saying that I agree with the last few sentences. I'm just making an observation on what was acceptable then versus now

http://s01.picshome.com/e42/generaljack1110qe.jpg

 

[Just-Legal]

Geez. I just... yeah.

The thing is? It wouldn't work now. In fact, it would probably incence them to do MORE, to avenge those who have been barred from Paradise.

 

[rgraham666]

I guess the entire conflict in the Philippines at the time didn't count as terrorism. It was, I dunno, a police action or an insurrection.

Still, 300,000 Philippinos died.

Fucking hooray for us!

 

[cantdog]

Kiinda.

 

[R. Richard]

Once you establish communication with them, terrorists are not all that difficult to deal with.

 

[cantdog]

Sure they are. Cheney alone is a bear and a half.

 

[woodnymph_O]

Whoa nelly,, I'm still shakin my head

 

[elsol]

It wouldn't work now.

It's working for them.


Sincerly,
ElSol

 

[Huckleman2000]

Sure they are. Cheney alone is a bear and a half.

hehe, This one made me snort my drink into my nose.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

If an Imam can give you dispensation to kill innocent women and children and still get into heaven, I sincerely doubt that waving around some bacon is going to scare anyone. If a little urine on a Koran didn't take the fight out of them, I'd be careful where you threw the lard.

I suspect that the fact that Pershing killed 49 of the last 8 rebels had more to do with stopping violence than his cavalcade of pork horror. I just can't picture Osama picking up his robes and running screaming for the hills if you brandish a can of Spam at him.

Also, 90 years ago Newspapers were not reporting on things so much as they were creating public policy. The Spanish American war in which we gained control of the Phillipines was pretty much started by William Randolph Hearst in order to sell papers and advance his theories of Manifest Destiny - the ultimate triumph of the White Race. Papers were full of this "White Man's Burden" and "Our little brown brothers" sort of chauvinism.

Also, since I have a story I don't want to work on, did you know that the Sepoy rebellion where the Indians rose up against their British colonial masters was also sparked by meat? Beef tallow this time. The Brits greased their cartridges with beef fat, and using their rifles required biting the cartridge. When their Hindu soldiers, who venerate the cow as holy and are vegetarians anyhow, learned that they were unknowingly being made to eat beef, they rose up in a bloody rebellion that killed thousands of people.

 

[elsol]

If an Imam can give you dispensation to kill innocent women and children and still get into heaven, I sincerely doubt that waving around some bacon is going to scare anyone.

I suspect that the fact that Pershing killed 49 of the last 8 rebels had more to do with stopping violence than his cavalcade of pork horror.

He didn't wave pork... he dipped bullets into pork blood and SHOT them with it.

Thus ensuring in THEIR minds, no Heaven.

That's like telling a Cop... No Dunkin Donuts for you, one week!

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[dr_mabeuse]

He didn't wave pork... he dipped bullets into pork blood and SHOT them with it.

That's how you kill kosher werewolves too.

 

[Ferawyn]

That's how you kill kosher werewolves too.

ROFL!

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I like Pershing. He had some character flaws, but overall, he was a pretty solid leader and a man whom the troops had great confidence in.

Everyone knows you can stamp out terrorism, if you are willing to take draconian enough measures. However, as terrorists have lowered the bar again and again, the standard of draconian enough has had to go up. If it was policy to execute out of hand every member of a suicide bomber's family, out to the third cousins, there wouldn't be many. Even those who were willing would probably be turned in by family members before they got everybody else killed. But in doing so, don't you become just as bloody handed as the terrorists?

 

[Guest]

That's how you kill kosher werewolves too.

 

[elsol]

Everyone knows you can stamp out terrorism, if you are willing to take draconian enough measures. However, as terrorists have lowered the bar again and again, the standard of draconian enough has had to go up. If it was policy to execute out of hand every member of a suicide bomber's family, out to the third cousins, there wouldn't be many. Even those who were willing would probably be turned in by family members before they got everybody else killed. But in doing so, don't you become just as bloody handed as the terrorists?

I got soap and water.

What's the problem?

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[amicus]

I like the 'Kosher werewolves' bit

thanx


amicus...

 

[rgraham666]

I like Pershing. He had some character flaws, but overall, he was a pretty solid leader and a man whom the troops had great confidence in.

Everyone knows you can stamp out terrorism, if you are willing to take draconian enough measures. However, as terrorists have lowered the bar again and again, the standard of draconian enough has had to go up. If it was policy to execute out of hand every member of a suicide bomber's family, out to the third cousins, there wouldn't be many. Even those who were willing would probably be turned in by family members before they got everybody else killed. But in doing so, don't you become just as bloody handed as the terrorists?

I'll drag out my favourite Taoist aphorism here. "What you resist, you become."

And of course, the only really wise thing Nietzsche ever said.

Beware when you battle monsters,
lest you become a monster.
And as you gaze into the abyss,
the abyss gazes also,
into you.