Themes beyond Erotica within an Erotic Story?

Carmenica Diaz

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I’m finding I’m adding non-erotic themes to by stories.

I have always discussed questions of identity, relationships and such in my novels but I’m adding elements about environment, relevance of family, spirituality and many other subtle themes, particularly in my Transgender novels (which are really just an excuse for me to write romance).

Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
I’m finding I’m adding non-erotic themes to by stories.

I have always discussed questions of identity, relationships and such in my novels but I’m adding elements about environment, relevance of family, spirituality and many other subtle themes, particularly in my Transgender novels (which are really just an excuse for me to write romance).

Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?

I've found that I need to care about my story and characters if it's a longer piece. If it's just a quicky/stroke piece, it's one thing, but anything more will have themes which I find important.
 
MichelleLovesTo said:
I've found that I need to care about my story and characters if it's a longer piece. If it's just a quicky/stroke piece, it's one thing, but anything more will have themes which I find important.
Yes, I find I agree. the themes don't really apply to the short stories but certainly in the novels. It's important not to lose sight of the entertainment factor as well.
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
Yes, I find I agree. the themes don't really apply to the short stories but certainly in the novels. It's important not to lose sight of the entertainment factor as well.
I agree.
My main task at the moment is to go back and add content to the short that grew into a novel- as good as the smut is, it's not enough to carry a novel, at all.
Or... maybe it is- look at Anne Rice's "Sleeping Beauty" trilogy- there is no real theme treated there, not really! And barely a plot. but it's so hokey, funny, and sexy!
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
I’m finding I’m adding non-erotic themes to by stories.

I have always discussed questions of identity, relationships and such in my novels but I’m adding elements about environment, relevance of family, spirituality and many other subtle themes, particularly in my Transgender novels (which are really just an excuse for me to write romance).

Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?

I'm just self-important enough to consider the erotic element merely part of the story itself, and not the other way around.
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
I’m finding I’m adding non-erotic themes to by stories.

I have always discussed questions of identity, relationships and such in my novels but I’m adding elements about environment, relevance of family, spirituality and many other subtle themes, particularly in my Transgender novels (which are really just an excuse for me to write romance).

Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?

I actually only put in erotic bits because of the nature of the site.

My last series was very little about the sex and instead explored the in's and out's and pleasantries and downfalls of growing up and coming of age. And I found it much more rewarding that when I used to write more sexually oriented stuff.
 
In my shorter stuff, no.

In my longer stuff, a little. But not much.

I'm very much a character directed writer, so I spend more time worrying about the characters rather than 'big themes'. If I touch on something 'big', it's only to build a character.
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?

If I can slip a "moral" into a story without getting "preachy" about it, I certainly will; the trick is to avoid preaching.

Aside from any moral points, I definitely apply a "wider vision" to make the erotic elements more than just "gratuitous sex" -- the length of the story does end to limit a wider vision, so I seldom write very short "stroke" stories that don't leave room for character development and non-erotic elements.
 
Carmenica Diaz said:
I’m finding I’m adding non-erotic themes to by stories.

I have always discussed questions of identity, relationships and such in my novels but I’m adding elements about environment, relevance of family, spirituality and many other subtle themes, particularly in my Transgender novels (which are really just an excuse for me to write romance).

Do you have a wider vision for your work or do you concentrate purely on the erotic elements ?
I've got one major project that I've been spending a lot of time on recently. Certain drafts of the first eight chapters can be found in my sig line. It gets into everything from erotica to theology, philosophy to raw violence and putrid visions. Its probably the only project (and its sequels) that I'll put that much thought into. My other short stories tend to be almost strictly erotica.

:cool:
 
Writing just sex is easier, for me anyway, but after a while it gets redundant, so then I tend to want to write something more, just to keep myself interested.
 
I'm trying to shoehorn a sex scene into the programmer's manual for the signal processing library I've developed. I think it may end up as an appendix.
 
Sub Joe said:
I'm trying to shoehorn a sex scene into the programmer's manual for the signal processing library I've developed. I think it may end up as an appendix.
:cathappy: It will sell REALLY well, on the basis of that appendix alone

So, tell us, Joe- can you really squirt as far as your av seems to imply?
 
Stella_Omega said:
:cathappy: It will sell REALLY well, on the basis of that appendix alone

So, tell us, Joe- can you really squirt as far as your av seems to imply?

Is that what he's doing? I thought he was blowing bubbles or something.
 
carsonshepherd said:
Is that what he's doing? I thought he was blowing bubbles or something.
Are you saying my mind is dirtier than yours? I can't believe that, Carson :devil:
 
CharleyH said:
What theme is non-erotic, exactly?

I think this is a very good...and deep question. Depending on one's concept of "the erotic", there is eroticism in most any theme. (well meybe one could escape it doing something about "math"). Eros is everywhere.
 
Stella_Omega said:
You haven't answered my question...
What question was that, dear? Oh. Squirting. No, it's artistic license.
 
Many times I start a story with a primarily erotic focus and other themes just emerge by virtue of the Muse. What can I say? :D
 
CharleyH said:
What theme is non-erotic, exactly?

*L* Yeah. That's exactly it.

The thing I've learned since I've been writing porn is that I don't think there's a single human activity, emotion, or idea that doesn't have a deeply sexual dimension. Freud got that right, even if he got the details wrong.

If you're writing a love story or an adventure or horror or even comedy, you're dealing with sexual themes and emotions. The world is just dripping with it.
 
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