The Urge to Kiss Ass

[RisiaSkye]

I'm not trying to start anything controversial here (well, not really ), but I have noticed a strange phenomenon. It seems to me that certain people seem to attract adoring legions, despite showing very little evidence that they have earned such slavish devotion.

This comes to mind most often with regards to politicians and religious leaders, but I have noticed it here too. Now, I have nothing against the guy, but I have read threads to which Dixon Carter Lee posted, and it seems like no matter what the guy says at least a few people show up to gratuitously kiss his ass. Remember, this isn't to knock Dixon--I don't even know the guy. It's just interesting to me that some people just seem to attract groupies like this, even when they've done nothing. And he's only an example, I've noticed that there are several other cases (though most aren't as pronouned).

What's interesting to me is that, despite not knowing him, I can feel the pull--I have been tempted to join into the little group butt-smooch just because it's an easy way to join in and be a part of something. Is that all it is? I know it isn't that he or his writing is perfect--hell, who(se) is?

What do you think this is about?

DCL, if you're reading--nothing personal, it's an observation, not meant to be an attack.

 

[Nicole]

I've noticed it too, and been guilty along the way.

Sorry.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Nicole, I think that many of us have been guilty of it--it's an incredibly strong urge at times.
Why are you apologizing? I don't mean to give the impression that I'm attacking anyone...it just seems strange to me.

Any thoughts on WHY we do it? And what about the ones who start it? Why do we pick the people we pick, etc.?

 

[jcgirl]

I kiss no ones ass!

Kiss kiss kiss.....oh sorry

 

[Nicole]

Apologizing cause it pisses me that I actually do it.

I can't tell you why I do it, just that I have. I know your not attacking anyone, and that is obvious actually. It's just one of those things, happens in Real Life too, although I'm not so bad in Real Life.

Sorry I'm half asleep so I'm not really very good at giving long responses, I'm off to bed soon

 

[Deborah]

Slut_boy kisses my ass. Only problem is, he never gives the panties back. Proof you say? I got a pic of him weary my panties.

 

[Deborah]

Sorry, that should be "wearing" not "weary." I'm half asleep myself. And I have to leave for work soon and I can't find any panties. Kinda cold to go without.

 

[CelestialBody]

I'm guilty,

 

[TonyG]

People become attracted to others for various reasons and when they do there is a tendency to want to get closer to them. One method is by posting to their threads no matter if they are serious or silly.

Anyone interested in bending over?

 

[Countess DeWinter]

What is this doing on the floor? *bending over to pick it up*


Here's a classic example. Risia. I adore Tony and so I read the threads he starts or that I see he's posted to. If it's serious, I give a serious reply. If he's flirting or being silly, I'll flirt and be silly right back.

 

[Bs]

I'm sure DCL will add his 2 cents worth.... But you are correct.... I do enjoy his wit and wisdom, somtimes.... we do not always agree.... animals, incest, these stories and questions are his favorite to lambast[sp].

There are just a lot of suck ups here now I fear..... that over-react and over act and post just to post. Slut-boy knows how much I dislike posting just to post. But, I had no idea how mild his posts were. I might have to tell him I'm sorry for my past discrestions....

Maybe sombody can pull up his (DCL's)post to the never ending "a breif discription of who you are". Or, maybe we should try to compile a list of all his posts so we can get a better picture of him..... the only thing I can recall about Dixon is the 1' schlong he said he sports... this will be a great thread.....

as always this is ......

 

[Ambrosious]

The one butt I don't mind kissing...

Right after the Fantasy Goddess is Laurel's. Hell yes, I am a suck up, and love it too.

I hear it's a cute butt, too.

 

[Cheyenne]

Maybe sombody can pull up his (DCL's)post to the never ending "a breif discription of who you are". Or, maybe we should try to compile a list of all his posts so we can get a better picture of him

While I've always admired DCL's posts, I never said anything directly to him until he posted this on my Merlin thread. Then I sent him email to thank him for his wit. He made me laugh when I needed to, and that's enough reason for me for an ass kiss here and there.

I don't think I've ever said Boo to Merlin, and I have no idea about any of this, but if this thread has become a contest of credibility, wit and all around convinceability, then Troll-boy, dude, you're losing BIG time. You have, seriously, like, no chance of anyone jumping on your pissy-ain't-these-chicks-wacko-bandwagon.

But it is sort of fun listening to you talk as if you're winning. Kind of like Barney trying to convince Mayberry that he really really really IS smart.

 

[Madame Pandora]

Pack Mentality

I think it was either Weird Harold or Dixon who said in one of the spirituality debates that humans are basically a pack animal and just feel more comfortable that way.

DCL and WH don't share the same opinions a lot, but they're two of the names that can actually get me to read a thread just because I see they've posted to it. Odds are that either 1) a descent conversation is going on; or 2) some witty banter is being exchanged.

I think that some "ass kissing" is really just appreciation for a good bit of humor. Someone says something funny and other people just want to say "that made me laugh my ass off." The rest of it is just the ordinary posturing of the pack mentality. Just like in real life, some people are only secure being part of something instead of standing on their own. To me, it's not wrong or right, it's just human nature. There is a notion that one is more respected, and I have to admit that I find it easier to respect the individual above the flock, but that's just me.

Besides...you know the groupie mentality, some people think if you hang around long enough, some idiot will think you're with the band. Talent by association.

DCL could be a total fucking prick for all I know. But I think, even in the middle of being a prick, he'd still probably be hilarious. And I think that's what a lot of people respond to. I am not a touchy-feely person who thinks you have to walk on tip-toes and worry about other people's feelings all the time. Especially in a public forum. My philosophy has always been: life is rough, wear a cup. If you're gonna express an opinion, be ready to have another one fired back at you. To take on-line things personally...well I don't grock. I don't care if people insult me or lie to me, just insult or lie WELL.

Besides, didn't they like BUILD literotica around DCL and Deb? They've been here since Christ was a child as far as I can tell. It's like all the young songwriters who play homage to Dylan. Gotta give a nod to those that came before and did it well ;-)

LOL. I am not defending DCL because I really don't see this as an attack...in fact, I think it's a great thread ;-) Also...because if DCL needed defending, I think he'd do it better than anyone else could.

Wait...was that kissing ass?

MP

 

[Nobody Special]

Any thoughts on WHY we do it? And what about the ones who start it? Why do we pick the people we pick, etc.?

People want to belong to something and this gives them a feeling of security. THe same thing with having Clicks in High Scool, You know, the Cool kids(ones whose families are more wealthy then others) the Not so Cool kids, the Nerds, and the Special Ed kids and then the True Cool kids..

It's just a feeling of being a part of something, a longing to belong...

E

 

[KillerMuffin]

I admit it, I've kissed ass, usually Laurel's occasionally DCL's I think. Maybe not. Don't remember, I've slept since then. I've never kissed Expertise's, he never stopped long enough for that. I've never thought of myself as in a clique or part of a groupie group. I've always considered myself as one of those fringe people that everyone knows and likes, but isn't actually a part of the core group.

I don't think anyone has kissed my ass, on the flip side of the coin. If they had, I really haven't noticed it. I don't think I would have much respect for anyone who did nothing but ass kiss. I know of one registered poster who has recently arrived on the scene whose only thought in life seems to be to join the Groupies by ass kissing. She hasn't had more to say than that. The groupies are interesting people who actually have interesting things to say that don't revolve around one or two members of the board and how wonderful those two members are.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

LOL

Interesting question.

Let me say this, I have always taken compliments in kind. Meaning that the great majority of what you call ass-kissing is tongue in cheek, pardon the pun, and I appreciate it, but it isn't all that serious, and I take the supposed "ass-munching" as a lark. I've always manintained that you can only marginally "know" anyone here, so it's not so much an ass being kissed as my typing skills.

But, I also know the polarizing effect fervent allegiances can create on the Board. You may have noticed that I never make a list of who I like, or want to fuck, or whose body I would like to make a pastic RealDoll out of. I understand that I'm generally well regarded, and, despite the fact that I don't feel that my butt's been smooched, really, I do see that that perception might exist, so I purposefully don't buy into it and do anything rude like sanction my supposed pedestal rank by by daring to dole out royal "likes" and "don't likes". In other words, I know that some people might take "Dixon" more seriously than me, so I don't play the list game so as not to hurt feelings. But it still remains that I don't take "Dixon", or his invisible "groupies" all that seriously.

Besides, how should a peson respond to someone they like? Should they bow their head and whisper, lest any more effusive commendation be looked on as "ass-kissyish"? Just how do you stand up for, support, express appreciation for, or pay homage to someone you like, respect, find amusing, or even *gasp* admire? In the past I'd met people I had tremendous respect for, but avoided saying anything because I knew that two minutes into a conversation I'd come off as a dopey sycophant. Is that fair? Why should I feel that I have to censor myself? I held back because of "what other people might think." But you know what? I don't do that any more. I've learned not to care what other people think.

And I understand that the perception of "ass-kissing" truly stems from a third party sense of inferiority. X sees Y say something nice about Z. X now feels left out, not allowed to play any reindeer games. X screams "ass-kisser" and feels better, because now it's not about how shy or insecure or lonely X is, it's all about Y being a suck up and Z being stuck up.

So, if anyone really, really, really, really feels I have groupies and that people really, really, really, really kiss my ass with fervent sincerity, and there's no room here for simple affection and humor, then maybe you're thinking too hard about me, and not enough about yourself.

 

[Ambrosious]

DCL

That was a damn good answer. Damn good.

 

[Madame Pandora]

And I understand that the perception of "ass-kissing" truly stems from a third party sense of inferiority. X sees Y say something nice about Z. X now feels left out, not allowed to play any reindeer games. X screams "ass-kisser" and feels better, because now it's not about how shy or insecure or lonely X is, it's all about Y being a suck up and Z being stuck up.

So, if anyone really, really, really, really feels I have groupies and that people really, really, really, really kiss my ass with fervent sincerity, and there's no room here for simple affection and humor, then maybe you're thinking too hard about me, and not enough about yourself.

Yeah, the thing is, you have person Q, the devil's advocate, like Risia (and, I admit it, like myself)who don't really invest a lot in X, Y, or Z...but just wonder why ;-)

MP

 

[Guest]

I kiss ass all the time, and they still won't let me play in their reindeer games.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Madame Pandora]

Oh SURE CB...be honest, logical and sincere...ruin EVERYONE'S FUN.

Wait...is that kissing ass?

BTW - no idea who Roudolf is... hysfuckingterical.

mp

 

[CreamyLady]

Is it really kissing ass, or are people just happy to be noticed and accepted by a popular person?

There are people on this board with wit and kindness, and there are those who seem to have wit but end up making one feel as if one were something to be scraped off the sole of a shoe.

Having felt as if I were shoe scrapings, my solution was to just not respond to those persons' posts if at all possible. It's worked out very well so far, as those persons haven't responded to mine, either, that I can think of.

None of it matters, because this isn't real life. What does it matter if we are not part of a digital group if we have a flesh-and-blood support system?

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[OUTSIDER]

There are always popular people, just think back to your school day's, then there is the rest and right at the back are the outsider's.

PS. Take a look at the song by Wheatus called "Teenage dirtbag" and you will get an idea of what I'm talking about.