The 'Thatcher' movie.... how would YOU improve it?

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first off have a look at..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2DnW5uC1_A

I would have waited a few more months (cold weather kills the elderly) then the film would have had a happy ending and could have been called "I spit on your grave"

instead we get smoke blown up the old nazi's arse.
 
Less drama and politics.
More aliens/monsters.
Give her a big gun and loads of Arnie style one liners.
 
I would improve it by replacing Meryl Streep with someone who can act.
 
I would improve it by replacing Meryl Streep with someone who can act.

Right. Those Oscars are a testament to what a poor actress she is.
Should have given the role to a Brit who really can act. Like Colin Ferrell.

The movie would be better if they had the iron lady get whacked in the end. The sequel would be Sherlock Holmes finding her killer and kicking ass.
 


I'd make it patently obvious that Maggie was instrumental in keeping Britain from going down the drain as a result of all the fuzzy-headed socialist nitwits who nearly destroyed the country.


At the time she came into office, Britain was well on its way to second world status and the economy was in shambles. The country had been controlled by a bunch of pie-eyed, "something for nothing" phonies for far too long.


 
A torture scene where she's lowered slowly into a bath of acid after having been striped with a razor blade.
 


I'd make it patently obvious that Maggie was instrumental in keeping Britain from going down the drain as a result of all the fuzzy-headed socialist nitwits who nearly destroyed the country.


At the time she came into office, Britain was well on its way to second world status and the economy was in shambles. The country had been controlled by a bunch of pie-eyed, "something for nothing" phonies for far too long.



you base your insane rant on what evidence?
 
A torture scene where she's lowered slowly into a bath of acid after having been striped with a razor blade.

lowered or dipped inch by inch.. then raised and re ripped.
 
you base your insane rant on what evidence?

He's a fucking idiot that has to post in funny colours and fonts to try and camouflage the utter bullshit he types. I've had it on iggy forever.
 
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Try sail is quite correct. What evidence? The winter of discontent, and the NUM Strike, clinging to outmoded corprotism
 
Try sail is quite correct. What evidence? The winter of discontent, and the NUM Strike, clinging to outmoded corprotism

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Every fucking thing Arthur Scargill prophesied came to be proved true. Every. Fucking. Thing. And the first people to lose their jobs were the bastard scabs that sold out their brothers in Nottingham.
 


The U.S.S.R. figured it out, the People's Republic of China figured it out, Poland figured it out, Bulgaria figured it out, Czechoslovakia (Slovakia & the Czech Republic) figured it out, Albania figured it out, Vietnam figured it out, the German Democratic Republic ( formerly known as "East Germany" ) figured it out, Kazhakstan figured it out, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania always had it figured out, Hungary figured it out, and Romania figured it out. Jesus H. Christ, even the fuckin' Cubans are finally figuring it out.

In fact, the only people who haven't figured it out seem to hang around here and in North Korea.



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129757511


Reform On The Range: Cubans Heed The Call To Farm
by Nick Miroff


September 21, 2010 Cuba has miles and miles of fertile, lush countryside where nothing is growing or grazing. After five decades of state-controlled agriculture, the country struggles to feed itself, forcing the government to import some 70 percent of the island's food.

Cuban President Raul Castro wants to change that and is asking enterprising Cubans to go back to the land.

Aniley Pena was watching TV two years ago when she heard the offer. The government was giving out free 10-year leases on state-owned land to anyone willing to take a crack at farming.

Today, she has 12 acres on the outskirts of Bejucal, a small town 20 miles south of Havana.

Pena is 38, rugged enough to trudge around in rubber boots, but not too earthy to wear mascara in the fields. She shields herself from the withering sun with a parasol and a Nike cap, supervising a team of men as they mix organic fertilizer into beds of radishes, carrots, scallions and spinach.

Pena's tractor is a little red Ford from the Truman era she inherited from her late grandfather. She has called her farm "Las Estrellas" — The Stars. Stars are bright, and they bring clarity, she said, which is what this new vocation has given her.

"Being out here relaxes me," Pena says. "Plus I know I'm doing something good for society, and also for myself."

Pena is the new face of Cuban socialism, a private entrepreneur...



Anybody interested in the benefits of a centrally planned economy and communism?




Satellite image of the Korean peninsula at night
Source: Defense Meteorological Satellite Program

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You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Every fucking thing Arthur Scargill prophesied came to be proved true. Every. Fucking. Thing. And the first people to lose their jobs were the bastard scabs that sold out their brothers in Nottingham.

I do not know... even the oxford union thinks she save you unworthy ass;

So said members of the Oxford Union last night, by 154 votes to 152. Alright these results never tell you very much, and it was a close thing. Even so, how refreshing to see undergraduates rejecting the Billy Elliot view of the period. When I speak to sixth-formers, I often find that their teachers have presented the 1980s to them as an era of monstrous selfishness interspersed only by bigotry. So total is our cultural elites' disdain for Margaret Thatcher that her eventual demise is regarded as a legitimate cause for celebration by BBC comedy writers and Guardian columnists.

Last night, Peter Lilley and I did our best to contextualise Thatcherism by describing the calamity that had preceded it. It is difficult, these days, to convey the sheer unremitting awfulness of the 1970s: the pessimism, the rancour, double-digit inflation, price controls, incomes policies, power cuts, the three-day-week, the winter of discontent. It felt as if we were finished as a country. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, we had been outperformed by every European economy. "Britain is a tragedy – it has sunk to borrowing, begging, stealing until North Sea oil comes in," said Henry Kissinger. The Wall Street Journal was blunter: "Goodbye, Great Britain: it was nice knowing you".

Then came the réveil national. Inflation fell, strikes stopped, the latent enterprise of a free people was awakened. Having lagged behind for a generation, we outgrew every European country in the 1980s except Spain (which was bouncing back from an even lower place). As revenues flowed in, taxes were cut and debt was repaid, while public spending – contrary to almost universal belief – rose. In the Falklands, Margaret Thatcher showed the world that a great country doesn't retreat forever. And, by ending the wretched policy of one-sided détente that had allowed the Soviets to march into Europe, Korea and Afghanistan, she set in train the events that would free hundreds of millions of people from what, in crude mathematical terms, must be reckoned the most murderous ideology humanity has known.

Why, then, do Lefties loathe her? Two MPs made the case against. One was Labour's Chris Bryant, whom I had been predisposed to like: he had always struck me on television as a good parliamentarian and a conviction politician, and I was delighted to find that he's clever and charming in real life. He made the classical Labour case against her: that Britain became more unequal; that former industrial workers were pushed onto invalidity benefit; that, at a time when every other Western country was making life easier for gay people, Section 28 was the only postwar piece of legislation that went in the opposite direction. Fair enough.

Then Evan Harris for the Lib Dems and, even more, the undergraduate speakers, attacked her in personal and aggressive terms, blaming her for everything from human rights abuses in China to the recent financial crisis. (Quite an achievement for someone who left office 20 years ago.)

Where does it come from, this inchoate hatred? Anti-Thatcherites tell you that it's because she closed down the old industries. (She didn't, of course: she simply stopped obliging everyone else to support them.) Yet it must surely be obvious by now that nothing would have kept the dockyards and coalmines and steel mills open. A similar process of deindustrialisation has unfolded in every other Western European country, and the only parties that still talk of "reviving our manufacturing base" are Respect, the Scottish Socialists and the BNP.

No, what Lefties (with honourable exceptions) find so hard to forgive is the lady's very success: the fact that she rescued a country that they had dishonoured and impoverished; that she inherited a Britain that was sclerotic, indebted and declining and left it proud, wealthy and free; that she never lost an election to them. Their rage, in truth, can never be assuaged; for it is the rage of Caliban.
 
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Every fucking thing Arthur Scargill prophesied came to be proved true. Every. Fucking. Thing. And the first people to lose their jobs were the bastard scabs that sold out their brothers in Nottingham.
Thatcher left office 21 years ago. Thirteen of those intervening years saw a Labour Government in Britain.

She really made her changes permanent.

Maybe Peter Oborne has a point?

In every area of our public life, the Left is losing the argument

It is now widely accepted that the years of New Labour government were an almost unalloyed national disaster. Whichever measure you take – moral, social, economic, or the respect in which Britain is held in the world – we went into reverse.

Nevertheless, historians may come to judge that these 13 years of Labour misrule served a vital purpose. In retrospect, the Brown/Blair period may be seen as a prolonged experiment which taught the liberal Left that its ideas cannot work, do not work, and have no chance of ever working.
It takes time to ruin a country. Four years, the average period between elections, was never going to be enough. But 13 years of Left-wing government has produced a mountain of evidence that the Conservative analysis is better and more truthful.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/p...-public-life-the-left-is-losing-the-argument/
 
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Vactain Very well put. I am a doctoral student in the us, and I have many memories of the debt ridden nanny state of sunny Jim.
The best example for younger students is Anthony Burgess 1985, which combines some true predictions about islam, with a quasi Orwell of banlity UK called TUC LAND
 
Vactain Very well put. I am a doctoral student in the us, and I have many memories of the debt ridden nanny state of sunny Jim.
The best example for younger students is Anthony Burgess 1985, which combines some true predictions about islam, with a quasi Orwell of banlity UK called TUC LAND

If you're a doctoral student, I'm Stephen fucking Hawking.
 
I do not know... even the oxford union thinks she save you unworthy ass;

So said members of the Oxford Union last night, by 154 votes to 152. Alright these results never tell you very much, and it was a close thing. Even so, how refreshing to see undergraduates rejecting the Billy Elliot view of the period. When I speak to sixth-formers, I often find that their teachers have presented the 1980s to them as an era of monstrous selfishness interspersed only by bigotry. So total is our cultural elites' disdain for Margaret Thatcher that her eventual demise is regarded as a legitimate cause for celebration by BBC comedy writers and Guardian columnists.

Last night, Peter Lilley and I did our best to contextualise Thatcherism by describing the calamity that had preceded it. It is difficult, these days, to convey the sheer unremitting awfulness of the 1970s: the pessimism, the rancour, double-digit inflation, price controls, incomes policies, power cuts, the three-day-week, the winter of discontent. It felt as if we were finished as a country. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, we had been outperformed by every European economy. "Britain is a tragedy – it has sunk to borrowing, begging, stealing until North Sea oil comes in," said Henry Kissinger. The Wall Street Journal was blunter: "Goodbye, Great Britain: it was nice knowing you".

Then came the réveil national. Inflation fell, strikes stopped, the latent enterprise of a free people was awakened. Having lagged behind for a generation, we outgrew every European country in the 1980s except Spain (which was bouncing back from an even lower place). As revenues flowed in, taxes were cut and debt was repaid, while public spending – contrary to almost universal belief – rose. In the Falklands, Margaret Thatcher showed the world that a great country doesn't retreat forever. And, by ending the wretched policy of one-sided détente that had allowed the Soviets to march into Europe, Korea and Afghanistan, she set in train the events that would free hundreds of millions of people from what, in crude mathematical terms, must be reckoned the most murderous ideology humanity has known.

Why, then, do Lefties loathe her? Two MPs made the case against. One was Labour's Chris Bryant, whom I had been predisposed to like: he had always struck me on television as a good parliamentarian and a conviction politician, and I was delighted to find that he's clever and charming in real life. He made the classical Labour case against her: that Britain became more unequal; that former industrial workers were pushed onto invalidity benefit; that, at a time when every other Western country was making life easier for gay people, Section 28 was the only postwar piece of legislation that went in the opposite direction. Fair enough.

Then Evan Harris for the Lib Dems and, even more, the undergraduate speakers, attacked her in personal and aggressive terms, blaming her for everything from human rights abuses in China to the recent financial crisis. (Quite an achievement for someone who left office 20 years ago.)

Where does it come from, this inchoate hatred? Anti-Thatcherites tell you that it's because she closed down the old industries. (She didn't, of course: she simply stopped obliging everyone else to support them.) Yet it must surely be obvious by now that nothing would have kept the dockyards and coalmines and steel mills open. A similar process of deindustrialisation has unfolded in every other Western European country, and the only parties that still talk of "reviving our manufacturing base" are Respect, the Scottish Socialists and the BNP.

No, what Lefties (with honourable exceptions) find so hard to forgive is the lady's very success: the fact that she rescued a country that they had dishonoured and impoverished; that she inherited a Britain that was sclerotic, indebted and declining and left it proud, wealthy and free; that she never lost an election to them. Their rage, in truth, can never be assuaged; for it is the rage of Caliban.

That said plus, one must never overlook the fact that, while conservatives view labour as mistaken, labour sees conservatives as evil. It's not just about her success or her being a woman. All that can be forgiven. It is the fact that she was a conservative -- that makes her evil and worthy of many-wished atrocities upon her person. It's the same the world over. Her observation regarding the running out of other people's money is tantamount to defecating on Labour's alter. Shame on her! :rolleyes:
 
Bliar was Thatcher in drag. I well remember the optimism of '97, then the betrayal.

Nah. Thatcher had the courage of her convictions. Bliar had neither convictions nor courage.

I remember reading the words of a left leaning senior civil servant. When it was suggested he seemed less than overjoyed at the result of the 97 election, he replied, "Now you will see the pigs at the trough"
 
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