The Super Volcanoes are here! We're all going to die!

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Honest to God, people. I read (always a mistake) a book called "A Crack at the Edge of the World," which purported to be about the San Francisco earthquake of 1906 - the kind of disaster I can safely enjoy from a distance of several time zones and a whole century. But no! "Crack" is actually about the hidden evil of plate tectonics, which is responsible along with the Bush administration for most of the world's problems, current and future. Oil, for example. No plate tectonics, no oil; no oil, no Bush administration. Plate tectonics also gives us earthquakes and volcanoes.

It turns out that geography alone cannot protect you from earthquakes. The fact that there hasn't been an earthquake where you live in recorded history only means you're way overdue for one. As for volcanoes, there's one in northwestern Wyoming that's big enough to kill us all, some more slowly than others. It's cleverly disguised as Yellowstone National Park, home of Old Faithful and other thermal features that seem harmless only because the Park Service gives them quaint names, leases a souvenirs-and-ice-cream concession nearby, and warns us that leaving the marked trails is an invitation to fall through the earth's paper-thin crust and be boiled like an egg, if eggs could shriek.

But I digress.

The thing they don't tell you when you're checking into your motor lodge is that "Yellowstone National Park" is a euphemism for "Yellowstone Super Volcano."

For decades, park geologists searched for a volcanic crater. With all the evidence of volcanic activity, there had to be a crater. It's a big park, and the searches turned up- nothing. Lots of old lava and stuff, but no crater. Then NASA sent the park geologists some photos of the Greater Yellowstone Area, taken from space.

"Yikes almighty," yelped the geologists, "The entire fu*kin* national park is the god**m volcano!" And tranquil Lake Yellowstone is the crater. "Tranquil, our asses! It's a seething cauldron of death, disguised as a tourist attraction." If that's not what the geologists said, it's what they should have said.

The current buzz in volcano circles is that Yellowstone is an active volcano and due for its next eruption, "soon," by which geologists mean anywhere between right now and a quarter-million years from now. A layer of volcanic ash averaging 16 feet in depth will cover most of the western states, a chunk of Canada, and the Grain Belt in the midwestern USA. Stock up now on corn and cake flour.

You may sit there, all smug and cozy, and think, "Fine. I don't live anywhere near Yellowstone National Park," but you too are doomed. The most recent eruption of the Yellowstone Super Volcano lasted 600 years. That's a lot of ash, people. Even if you like the smell of rotten eggs, you're not going to be happy campers by Year 2.

This plate tectonics business makes global warming look like a convenient way to bake ham.

Just in case I wasn't nervous enough after the Yellowstone Super Volcano chapters, the author of "A Crack at the Edge of the World" took a driving tour up the Pacific coast of North America to explore of the northernmost reaches of the San Andreas Fault and its associated fault-lettes, and discovered that any ol' body who feels like making the detour can drive a single-lane gravel road out into the middle of nowwhere and park a few yards from the Alaska Oil Pipeline.

"There's not even a sign," he notes, "saying 'Do Not Vandalize Pipeline." While he is pleased to note that the supports for the 4-foot pipe are engineered to accommodate movement along the fault, it doesn't make the structure any less vulnerable. "I could not help thinking," he admits, "about plastic explosives."





Edited to add:

No, it brings me no comfort whatsoever to know that Vice President Dick Cheney owns a disclosed location in Wyoming, practically right on top of the Yellowstone Super Volcano. And I resent your assumption.

First of all, Wyoming is a beautiful state. Moreoever, it's not fair that the Cheney home will be vaporized instantly when the Big One blows, while the rest of us will die slowly in slightly smellier version of the world he envisioned for us.
 
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What's gonna blow first - the Yellowstone super volcano or the New Madrid fault line (a couple of time zones east)?

Place your bets.
 
jomar said:
What's gonna blow first - the Yellowstone super volcano or the New Madrid fault line (a couple of time zones east)?

Place your bets.

jomar, I'm thinking that the boom from Yellowstone will cause a super-dyna-whopping earthquake in the New Madrid fault.

Game over.
 
Old, old news Shereads, there is also a sub-duction mega fault zone running up the coast of the entire Pacific Northwest, including the lefty Canucks, that has in the past produced very large quakes and mega tsunami's 500 feet tall that would inundate parts of BC, Seattle and Portland.

There have been a couple movies about the Yellowstone Supervolcano, it really is an interesting historical pursuit. apparently on an average of about 600,000 years it has exploded from a moving magma chamber beneath the region.

Since Shereads has me on ignore, will someone please tell her I was about to launch an inquiry concerning her absence from the forum, About four years ago, Shereads was my first encounter on the AH and old timers have a special place in my crusty ole black heart.

Personally I think the added weight of all the lefties moving to the left coast and pausing in the mountain west have tilted the earth's axis and modified plate techtonics in a gauche manner.

Amicus...
 
I've wondered before if Yellowstone would ever be considered a target for one of those ultra fanatical end the world now terrorists.

When Yellowstone blows, it's going to change the world as we know it. Geologists say it's past due to blow. The magma chamber is pretty close to the surface (relatively speaking) and the ground is full of fissures. The fissures are evident by all of the geysers. I've wondered if a strategically placed nuke would set the whole thing off.
 
jayce1066 said:
jomar, I'm thinking that the boom from Yellowstone will cause a super-dyna-whopping earthquake in the New Madrid fault.

Game over.

Gonna leave a mark, huh.
 
I think I'm far enough away to be safe from the lava. The whole meters-deep in ash thing would be the big wazoo, tho...
 
Some geologist claim that the reason the Tibet plateau is at such a high altitude is because of the gargantuan over pressurized magma bubble right below it.

Imagine that bubble bursting.
 
jomar said:
What's gonna blow first - the Yellowstone super volcano or the New Madrid fault line (a couple of time zones east)?

Place your bets.


Did I forget to mention that an earthquake in Alaska a few years ago coincided with increased geothermal activity in the Yellowstone Basin, indicating that a shift anywhere on the North American plate can have consequences on another piece of it, thousands of miles away?

My money says the New Madrid fault line will be glued in place by molten bits of Wyoming, including tour buses.

Btw, don't feed falling bears!
 
Wildcard Ky said:
I've wondered before if Yellowstone would ever be considered a target for one of those ultra fanatical end the world now terrorists.

Terrorism is redundant. If the super volcano doesn't get us, the Chinese will take us out with contaminated toothpaste and Mattel toys. (Next: Date-Rape Barbie.®)
 
It's the-e-e-e end of the world as we know it
It's the-e-e-e end of the world as we know it
It's the-e-e-e end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine
 
There was a really bad sci-fi channel movie about Yellowstone blowing. The way the first part came across was as if it were a documentary, so it was like it was really happening (at least the pre-cursors to the eruption).

Anyway, I don't think a terrorist could blow yellowstone. Even though it is relatively close to the surface, it's still really really far below by realistic standards, something like a mile. While a nuke is powerful, that's a lot of rock. Plus any terrorist smart enough to go after Yellowstone, would also know that such an eruption would likely kill everyone, not just Americans.
 
only_more_so said:
There was a really bad sci-fi channel movie about Yellowstone blowing.

My favorite bad movie about plate tectonics is "Volcano" with Tommy Lee Jones and crazy Anne Heche. As a mountain of lava bears down on Beverly Hills, a crew of movers race to load a truck with endangered museum masterpieces. Two of the men are carrying Hieronymus Bosch's "Garden of Earthly Delights."

Mover 1: "Man. This Hieronymus Bosch is heavy."

Mover 2: "Yes, his major theme is mankind's pursuit of earthly pleasures in defiance of God's will."

Mover 1: "No...It's just heavy."
 
shereads said:
My favorite bad movie about plate tectonics is "Volcano" with Tommy Lee Jones and crazy Anne Heche. As a mountain of lava bears down on Beverly Hills, a crew of movers race to load a truck with endangered museum masterpieces. Two of the men are carrying Hieronymus Bosch's "Garden of Earthly Delights."

Mover 1: "Man. This Hieronymus Bosch is heavy."

Mover 2: "Yes, his major theme is mankind's pursuit of earthly pleasures in defiance of God's will."

Mover 1: "No...It's just heavy."

I could kiss you for that reference.

Although the ending pissed me off. Where the little kid said that everybody looked the same. Nothing like lead pipe subtlety.

Oh, and Anne Heche might be fruitier than Carman Miranda's headpiece, but she was pretty hot in that movie.
 
There was a movie called Crack in the World that was released in 1965. Decent effects for the time. I recall that some model railroads were horribly abused.
 
Heyyy Dudes and Dudettes!

We're gonna party at Yellowstone like there's no tomorrow!

That's because, like, there isn't, haw haw!

Gimme another beer. :D
 
only_more_so said:
I could kiss you for that reference.

Although the ending pissed me off. Where the little kid said that everybody looked the same. Nothing like lead pipe subtlety.

There was an ending? I think I passed out after the subway conductor in the lava-filled tunnel tried to get someone to read his screenplay.
 
jayce1066 said:
No more pic-a-nic baskets....

That wasn't Yellowstone. It was Jellystone.

There's no Jellystone Super Volcano, but there is an ant bed the size of Long Island.
 
"If you ever drop your car keys in red-hot lava, let 'em go. Because, man, they're gone."

~ Jack Handey
 
My personal view is not wholly scientific, however, I have lived within a couple mile of the "West Hills Fault," which is part of the great Pacific Fault, for 30 years. If you ask, yes. We do get quakes regularly. Yes. I do remember Mt. St. Helens eruption(s).

There is no real reason for tectonic plates to move. My feeling is that they move because we are building things near them, people are moving near them and so on. That shifts the weight bearing on the plate, you know.

I would really like to see all the people along the Pacific plate jumping up and down in unison, just to see what happens. It might be really kewl :D
 
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